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BossChief 04-25-2010 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6713066)
And Dane, the only TE in this draft with gigantic upside was Jimmy Graham, not Tony Moeaki.

time will tell.

I disagree.

I have seen far more of the kid than most here and I think I am pretty objective. By mid season, there will be multiple threads talking about how they are glad we did what we did to get this kid.

He is a better version of Visante Shiancoe IMO.

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6713561)
In case you aren't aware, 40 times do matter for defensive backs, build the slowest team in football, watch what happens to you.

well, in this scheme the corners ability to cover deep in one on one coverage is minimized. Especially with Berry roaming back there. Quickness, preperation, tackling and ability to diagnose what is going on within the confines of the play are qualities that are definitely a premium over long speed.

I think he is a elite returner that should be a solid nickle corner.

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6713602)
Dorsey missed one game.

And IIRC, the Ravens ran for over 200 yards in the opener.

"hes just a 5-technique, a position that holds little positional value"


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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6713766)

People are comparing him to Welker, FFS. Wes Welker is a legit slot WR.

This guy is a RB we're converting to slot WR.

Id like to throw out there that Dexter has played wide out in previous years extensively. Not lined up in the backfield and moved in motion, was a receiver.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6713768)
You know, you've once again lost all of your credibility with me.

You ****ing talk in absolutes then when challenged, ask one of your stupid, passive-aggressive questions.

I'll ask you once again, which offensive lineman from rounds 3-7 did the Chiefs pass on, that would have made such a HUGE contribution.

I already admitted I was wrong about Urbick.

What the **** is wrong with you not being able to admit when you're wrong or not being able to back up your SHIT?

Hootie's right: You're a ****ing PHONY.

And I've just joined in with the other 11,997 Chiefsplanet members in laughing at YOU.

shit just got real

Mecca 04-25-2010 07:37 PM

I don't even hate Arenas but that other safety they took, I can't fathom what that guys going to do other than play special teams.

I don't generally pimp 40's but I do think they matter for DB's and WR's.

-King- 04-25-2010 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6714139)
I don't even hate Arenas but that other safety they took, I can't fathom what that guys going to do other than play special teams.

I don't generally pimp 40's but I do think they matter for DB's and WR's.

Exactly, just ask brandon flowers...oh wait
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Mecca 04-25-2010 07:46 PM

He ran a 4.5 not a 4.8

Pawmnower 04-25-2010 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6714171)
He ran a 4.5 not a 4.8

Safetes are slower than DB's you fukcing idjiot

Mecca 04-25-2010 07:49 PM

Safeties are DB's...say safeties are slower than CB's, it makes more sense.

penchief 04-25-2010 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 6713854)
Jamaal Charles and Dexter McCluster on the field at the same time is a scary ****ing thought for any defensive coordinator....

Denver is already having nightmares.

Hootie 04-25-2010 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6714171)
He ran a 4.5 not a 4.8

who ran a 4.8?

Hootie 04-25-2010 08:04 PM

I bet Kendrick Lewis is as fast as Darren Sharper.

Mecca 04-25-2010 08:07 PM

The safety the Chiefs picked he ran a 4.72 and a 4.81, those are very poor times.

Ok Sharper was not that slow when he was a young player and generally an older player can use his brain to get by his speed declining, this guy might be a nice special teams guy I can't really see much more than that.

SAUTO 04-25-2010 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6714228)
The safety the Chiefs picked he ran a 4.72 and a 4.81, those are very poor times.

Ok Sharper was not that slow when he was a young player and generally an older player can use his brain to get by his speed declining, this guy might be a nice special teams guy I can't really see much more than that.

wow so now you are reduced to bitching about a 5th rd pick?
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chiefzilla1501 04-25-2010 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6714228)
The safety the Chiefs picked he ran a 4.72 and a 4.81, those are very poor times.

Ok Sharper was not that slow when he was a young player and generally an older player can use his brain to get by his speed declining, this guy might be a nice special teams guy I can't really see much more than that.

We'll have to see. I don't know anything about the kid. I've seen a few scouting reports that say that he plays faster than he's timed and that while he doesn't have elite speed, it didn't look like it was a big issue. But no idea how reliable any of it is. I think no matter what, anyone you take at that area of the draft can be somewhat of a crapshoot.

crispystl 04-25-2010 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6712217)
I was pretty down on this draft outside of Berry but maybe I am just stupid.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.3f4b050.html

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS GRADE: A+
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...lelogo-kcc.gif The Chiefs drafted the NFL defensive rookie of the year in Berry – and a slew of other good players. Arenas was the best returner in the draft, and McCluster will give the AFC matchup problems at both running back and receiver.

Yeah Arenas is a much better returner than Spiller. Gie me a break.

philfree 04-25-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by crispystl420 (Post 6714253)
Yeah Arenas is a much better returner than Spiller. Gie me a break.

If you look at the numbers?

PhilFree:arrow:

OnTheWarpath15 04-25-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6713873)
Yep.

I hate this team, that's why I've spent over $25k of my hard-earned money to attend games, at home and on the road, over just the last 7 years alone.

I'm absolutely shocked to see that this post was ignored.


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