Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 9182414)

Some of you on here need to get a life and show some compassion to the families this touched. Mental illness is real.

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 9182454)

I've got a life and family. I have to worry about my own problems and reality. I am numb to this because its a common occurrence in America. Its a non story anymore.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9181865)

He ****ing sucked and was a huge liability.

I posted as such in 2010 and people argued with me, especially DJ's Left Nut. Even my pal Milkman defended him.

**** him.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7424207)

Look, I'm not stating that the guy in any sucks or is undeserving of a role on the team. But let's look at facts: The Chiefs were gashed in the run game by the Raiders and even the Broncos. They lost several games by 20 points or more and the interior of the defense could certainly use an upgrade. And quite honestly, I do not see a single NT that is going to magically transform the middle of the defense. Help? Sure. But as far as anyone knows, there are no Raji's or Ngata's available this year in the draft or free agency.

Hopefully, Belcher can continue to improve and there's no doubt that he made a leap from year one to year two. But the position needs an upgrade and whether it's him that makes the leap or a free agent, I don't really care.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9182566)

You were wanting to use a 1st rounder or a significant FA payout to upgrade on him immediately. I said he's a passable starter and a guy that needed replacing less than about 5 other positions on the defense alone. I said we should continue to try to develop him and focus in improving the NT position first.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9182566)

I was right, by the way. Belcher was a complementary player in this defense and whoever replaces him will be the same.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9182566)

Using a premium asset to upgrade on him would've been stupid then, just as it would be stupid now.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9182566)

But yeah, keep claiming omniscience.

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 9181956)

He was never in any sort of trouble and by all accounts was a high-character guy.

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 9181956)

Would you honestly deem this guy as some sort of a threat to those around him?

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 9181956)

Also, there was a quote in one of the articles you, yourself, linked attributed to Javon in which he discussed his collection of guns with a friend or an acquaintance. I don't think his collection was any sort of a dark secret.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9182991)

So, these claims are false and don't mean a thing?

Belcher came into contact with campus police three times prior to the lockout, all between the weekend hours of 1 and 2 a.m.

During December of Belcher’s freshman year, a resident assistant in Androscoggin Hall called for assistance to a third-floor bathroom because Belcher “was ill and slow to respond to his questions,” according a report filed by officer James I. Batchelder, who described “no signs of drug or alcohol use.”

Four months later, Sgt. Scott Curtis responded to the same dormitory and found Belcher being treated by the university volunteer ambulance corps (UVAC) for a “possible severed thumb and lacerations to the wrist,” Curtis wrote.

“I was told that Belcher was upset over a girl and punched a window out,” the report continued. “There was a lot of blood outside of the west entrance and in the lobby.”

http://www.pressherald.com/news/Jova...-at-Maine.html



Males? No.



You missed the point. His oldest friends in New York had no idea that he was so into guns.

The bottom line is that the guy wasn't "right". He acted completely "normal" around his football teams, coaches and in school but outside of that element, it appears that he had anger issues, drug and alcohol issues and a violent streak.

And no, I don't think you just dismiss the fact that he punched through a window and may or may not have severed his thumb. All I can say about that is that I sincerely hope that if my daughters are ever involved with a young man that displays such anger, they turn and run the other way as fast as they can.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9182991)

So, these claims are false and don't mean a thing?

Belcher came into contact with campus police three times prior to the lockout, all between the weekend hours of 1 and 2 a.m.

During December of Belcher’s freshman year, a resident assistant in Androscoggin Hall called for assistance to a third-floor bathroom because Belcher “was ill and slow to respond to his questions,” according a report filed by officer James I. Batchelder, who described “no signs of drug or alcohol use.”

Four months later, Sgt. Scott Curtis responded to the same dormitory and found Belcher being treated by the university volunteer ambulance corps (UVAC) for a “possible severed thumb and lacerations to the wrist,” Curtis wrote.

“I was told that Belcher was upset over a girl and punched a window out,” the report continued. “There was a lot of blood outside of the west entrance and in the lobby.”

http://www.pressherald.com/news/Jova...-at-Maine.html



Males? No.



You missed the point. His oldest friends in New York had no idea that he was so into guns.

The bottom line is that the guy wasn't "right". He acted completely "normal" around his football teams, coaches and in school but outside of that element, it appears that he had anger issues, drug and alcohol issues and a violent streak.

And no, I don't think you just dismiss the fact that he punched through a window and may or may not have severed his thumb. All I can say about that is that I sincerely hope that if my daughters are ever involved with a young man that displays such anger, they turn and run the other way as fast as they can.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9183003)

We can't have players on our team like this.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9183005)

Is that what I said?

No, it's not what I said. So, why are you quoting me?

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9183012)

No. You just heavily implied it.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9183012)

I especially liked the "may or may not have severed his thumb" comment as if we don't know if he lost his thumb.

Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9182396)

"she doesnt want to answer questions/herp"

Yeah, she probably didnt, i'm sure its very hard to focus at a time like that, a loved one is dying in front of you, the baby is screaming in the background...

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9183016)

Judging by his friends comments and reading other things I wonder if Belcher had Schizophrenia?

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9182566)

No, you didn't argue as such. In fact you expressly stated that you weren't saying he sucked

Originally Posted by royr17 (Post 7422755)

http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/nfl/kc/?r=1

ESPN.com's Bill Williamson and Scouts Inc.'s Matt Williamson believe the Chiefs have found a "gem" in ILB Jovan Belcher.

Belcher was primarily a special teamer as an undrafted rookie in 2009. He graduated to full-time starter in 2010, racking up 84 tackles. "He's a heavier guy who is a good banger in the 3-4 defense," Matt Williamson said. "He seems like a hard-nosed guy who has made the best of opportunity." Expect Belcher to remain in the same role next season.