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tomahawk kid 11-17-2015 08:17 AM

I NEED THE UPDATES ON THE ALEX GORDON!

mikeyis4dcats. 11-17-2015 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11889709)
Alex won't be doing the Plaza light switch this year. (Will be the chick who wrote "Gone Girl")

A sign?

Probably an indication the organizers didn't want to scramble for a backup in case he leaves and doesn't want to do it. Not that I'm holding out hope he stays.

duncan_idaho 11-17-2015 09:37 AM

Consider me fully on board the "trade for Marcell Ozuna" train.

I'm not sure what his value is right now, (I've seen him connected with Cleveland, but can't imagine Carrasco or Salazar is on the table) but he's a young (four years of control remaining) player with good power who played a quality CF in 2014, given regular PT.

He and his agent (Scott Boras) feuded with the Marlins last year, which I think affected his performance. But put him in this clubhouse, with Spanish-speaking guys like Salvador Perez and Edinson Volquez to lead him, and I think questions about his focus and dedication to the game can be positively answered.

It sounds like he will be playing 2016 somewhere else. Why not KC?

He'd still be cheap this year, doesn't hit arbitration until 2017, and would be controlled through 2020. If he hits, all of a sudden you've got a cornerstone OF piece around which you can build.

I'm not sure what it would cost/what Miami would want back, but SP is likely to be part of it.

duncan_idaho 11-17-2015 12:13 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Growing sentiment around Baseball and internally with the <a href="https://twitter.com/Marlins">@marlins</a> is Jose Fernandez will be traded this offseason.</p>&mdash; Craig Mish (@CraigMish) <a href="https://twitter.com/CraigMish/status/666668290358513664">November 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Don't think the Royals have the ammo to swim in this pool. But it's interesting nonetheless.

My initial guess would be: Boston.

Dombrowski loves to trade prospects, and the Red Sox still have several studs for him to trade away.

siberian khatru 11-17-2015 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11890331)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Growing sentiment around Baseball and internally with the <a href="https://twitter.com/Marlins">@marlins</a> is Jose Fernandez will be traded this offseason.</p>&mdash; Craig Mish (@CraigMish) <a href="https://twitter.com/CraigMish/status/666668290358513664">November 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Don't think the Royals have the ammo to swim in this pool. But it's interesting nonetheless.

My initial guess would be: Boston.

Dombrowski loves to trade prospects, and the Red Sox still have several studs for him to trade away.


Another Boras client. Guess they're really pissed at him.

siberian khatru 11-17-2015 12:32 PM

Agent Boras rips Marlins for demotion of Ozuna

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Marlins President David Samson responded: "Our baseball people do what is in the best interests of the team and the player. My strong suggestion to Mr. Boras is that instead of resting on his 5 percent that he collects from his stable of players, he write a check and buy a team. Because then he would have the opportunity to run a team that he claims to be so able do to. … Every decision we make is based on the best interests of the team and always has been."
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Fernandez was 6-1 in 64 2/3 innings after returning at midseason, but also missed time with a biceps strain.

"I'm sure we'll have discussions about that in the offseason," Boras said.

Michael Hill, Marlins president of baseball operations, said Tuesday, "I think we'll speak with his doctor and consult with him. Normally with a player coming off a major surgery there is a range of [innings]."

Samson was adamant that Boras will not be part of that consideration.

"[Boras] will in no way be included in the process other than continuing to collect whatever commissions he may be entitled to," Samson said. "He will not be involved in any discussion as it relates to Jose Fernandez. We will be in touch with the doctors and Jose as we formulate a plan."

Prison Bitch 11-17-2015 12:35 PM

I'd be scared to death to acquire Fernandez. I just can't see him last very long with the arm strain. Would love Ozuna but with 3 cost controlled years i don't want to see the sticker price on trading for him

duncan_idaho 11-17-2015 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11890378)
I'd be scared to death to acquire Fernandez. I just can't see him last very long with the arm strain. Would love Ozuna but with 3 cost controlled years i don't want to see the sticker price on trading for him

The Royals don't have enough to get him, anyway. Dombrowski will do what Dombrowski does, and empty his farm system to get him.

I'd not be surprised to see 4 of their top 10 prospects + Henry Owens moved to the Fish. Something like Devers (no. 2), Johnson (No. 3), Benitendi (No. 4) and Kepech (No. 6).

No idea what Ozuna's cost will be. The Marlins have kind of Colby Rasmus-ed him/his value.

But if they're trading Jose Fernandez, too, that probably indicates that team is no longer trying to compete (as this window was built around Fernandez and Stanton), and they might be willing to take more value that's farther away from MLB in return for Ozuna, which would help KC.

ChiefsCountry 11-17-2015 01:01 PM

Loria might be the worst owner in sports.

suzzer99 11-17-2015 01:03 PM

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duncan_idaho 11-17-2015 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 11890430)
Loria might be the worst owner in sports.

There's little doubt he is.

Miami gets tons of revenue sharing money, which is a gigantic joke considering it's a huge market and they have a brand-new stadium Loria tricked Miami taxpayers into funding.

It's his wife's money, though, that made it possible for him to buy the team. Don't think he has much control of the purse strings.

ChiefsCountry 11-17-2015 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11890439)
There's little doubt he is.

Miami gets tons of revenue sharing money, which is a gigantic joke considering it's a huge market and they have a brand-new stadium Loria tricked Miami taxpayers into funding.

It's his wife's money, though, that made it possible for him to buy the team. Don't think he has much control of the purse strings.

Miami could be a baseball mecca if the right ownership group was in place. First of all its Miami, second the Latin influence, no income tax, beautiful weather, women etc. Free agents should flock there. It's amazing how shitty the owner is to screw up, what should be a model franchise.

Prison Bitch 11-17-2015 01:15 PM

Miami has never drawn well for any of their sports.

ChiefsCountry 11-17-2015 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 11890460)
Miami has never drawn well for any of their sports.

Heat sell out every night. Dolphins drew well for years.

suzzer99 11-17-2015 01:23 PM

Warm weather climates where people have a million other options for things to do don't tend to breed rabid sports fans.


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