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Sorce 02-15-2020 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 14795825)
I see that you're retired and surely remember when it was our only form of information. I still love the old paper medium myself. Something I can relax with in the tub or on the throne.



To this day I get the paper versions of many papers/magazines. There's just something about the nostalgia to it. That and the fact that I can get it wet and not worry about shorting out my $600 phone or getting electrocuted.



But even my 89 y/o dad had given the old papers a boot before he passed away. I went to visit him and looked around for the paper. I couldn't believe he used his laptop instead.



Oh well. It's a sad state IMO. And even worse that yet another piece of our culture has crumbled away.

Old things die...

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mdstu 02-15-2020 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorce (Post 14797500)
Old things die...

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Yep, and rabid dogs get put down.

Why would anyone would want to keep this menace to society around?
The sooner they are gone the better.

Hammock Parties 06-19-2020 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14344703)
Make your voice heard. You are the consumer. Newspapers exist to serve the public. When they begin to serve an agenda, it can, should and is affecting their business.

https://i.imgur.com/j8OTdiM.png

First, you want to reach out to Tony Berg, the President and Publisher of the KC Star. He is easily reachable at [email protected] or [email protected].

Second, you will want to contact Dan Schaub, the Corporate Director of Audience Development at McClatchy. He is easily reachable at [email protected].

Third, you can reach out to Kevin McClatchy, the Chairman of McClatchy. He is easily reachable at [email protected] or [email protected].

Anyone else to loop into this?

hee hee



https://i.imgur.com/2nO4H1f.png

Rain Man 06-19-2020 06:24 PM

Buy low, sell no.

Hammock Parties 06-19-2020 06:28 PM

LMAO
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The McClatchy Co. appears to have a deal to sell The Kansas City Star’s printing plant for about $32 million, about 15 percent of what it cost to construct the plant before it opened in 2006.
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:: The red ink continues to flow, with McClatchy reporting a net loss of $42 million for the first three months of 2019, or $5.34 per share of stock. In the first quarter of 2018, the company reported a net loss of $38.9 million, of $5.04 per share.

:: For the first time since it embarked on its transition from print to digital, digital-only advertising revenue was down — down by 5.2 percent against the first quarter of 2018. McClatchy CEO Craig Forman attributed the dip to a “softer news cycle” in the first quarter of this year and “a strategic tightening of website paywalls.”

:: Total advertising revenue was $85.2 million, down 14.7% compared to the first quarter of 2018.

scho63 06-19-2020 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RetiredSeniorChief (Post 14794683)
Printed newspapers are a 15th century invention that is going the way of the 8-track tape.

Sadly this is correct.

My entire family on my father's side all worked as newspaper pressmen from the early 1900's, myself included. It was a wonderful business at the time. :thumb:

RINGLEADER 06-20-2020 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 15028501)
Sadly this is correct.

My entire family on my father's side all worked as newspaper pressmen from the early 1900's, myself included. It was a wonderful business at the time. :thumb:

I had a life in print publishing and got out in the 90s. I’m honestly sort of surprised print has hung around this long. Most don’t realize what an impact Craigslist had on newspapers and the importance of classified ads to the bottom line. The papers were literally printing money.

Now you have to have content that people can’t get in other places or a print format that is evergreen or tailored towards a higher-end customer who doesn’t mind paying $15-$20 for a magazine because of the niche it serves.

It can be done (transition to digital). High-quality content that is well edited and you can’t readily get by putting in a search term into Google. The Athletic and Wall Street Journal are two that come to mind that have pulled it off but I’m sure there are others I’m not remembering right now.

Hammock Parties 06-20-2020 02:30 PM

The Athletic isn't even pulling it off well.

They fired a bunch of staff.

None of these places can pay anyone shit. The KC Star was paying a bunch of older writers 70-80 grand and they all got laid off and replaced with kids making 30k.

We're going to be left with media monopolies in the future.

Halfcan 06-20-2020 03:41 PM

KC Star is just another outlet for the Dems to spread propaganda- good riddance.

They really ****ed up trying to run one of our best and loved players out of town.

CoMoChief 06-20-2020 03:42 PM

Haven't read the Star since JoPo left. (read articles that people copy/paste on here but that's about it).

And the website is just loaded with bullshit, ads etc.

Spott 06-20-2020 03:45 PM

The one good thing about them sucking so much is that it helped create CP. Other than that, meh.

cooper barrett 06-20-2020 07:57 PM

There should be some Hyde Park estates up for sale soon.

Rain Man 06-20-2020 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15029180)
The Athletic isn't even pulling it off well.

They fired a bunch of staff.

None of these places can pay anyone shit. The KC Star was paying a bunch of older writers 70-80 grand and they all got laid off and replaced with kids making 30k.

We're going to be left with media monopolies in the future.


I wistfully think about days when I could read a newspaper and not know the personal opinion of the person who wrote the article. Most news today is really amateurish and biased and uses poor grammar to boot, and I find it sad.

But then I wonder if it was always that way, other than the grammar. There were fewer media voices back when newspapers and the three major networks ran the show, which meant that there was more potential for powerful people to control the stories. We just may not have known it, because they were more subtle than the amateurs who are running the show today.

Democratization of the news is a good thing in theory, but in practice it means that we have to wade through a lot of bad journalism to find the truth. The Star at some point became stuff to wade through, rather than rely on.

Hammock Parties 06-20-2020 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15029859)
I wistfully think about days when I could read a newspaper and not know the personal opinion of the person who wrote the article. Most news today is really amateurish and biased and uses poor grammar to boot, and I find it sad.

But then I wonder if it was always that way, other than the grammar. There were fewer media voices back when newspapers and the three major networks ran the show, which meant that there was more potential for powerful people to control the stories. We just may not have known it, because they were more subtle than the amateurs who are running the show today.

Democratization of the news is a good thing in theory, but in practice it means that we have to wade through a lot of bad journalism to find the truth. The Star at some point became stuff to wade through, rather than rely on.

As soon as "clickbait" became a thing, it was bound to happen.

The internet pretty much killed the days where you could read a newspaper and just kinda chill out.

I wonder who fired the first shot in that war. Be interesting to read a history of online portals and who started the trend of being annoying for attention.

Rain Man 06-20-2020 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15029930)
As soon as "clickbait" became a thing, it was bound to happen.

The internet pretty much killed the days where you could read a newspaper and just kinda chill out.

I wonder who fired the first shot in that war. Be interesting to read a history of online portals and who started the trend of being annoying for attention.

I'm kind of amazed that sites like CNN have clickbait ads on their home page. Is the revenue really worth completely undermining their credibility? Apparently it is. But jeez, their money home page has links to "stories" that are blatantly fraudulent. Right now, I see "paid partner content" on the CNN money page that has the headline, "Beginners guide shows how to turn $4,600 into $460,164 trading options". And I'm supposed to find CNN credible?

But yeah, it'd be interesting to trace back and see where this decline started, and why.


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