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ChiefsLV 02-21-2023 02:23 PM
I'm on the trade-him bandwagon unless there's no other option. He was good in the Superbowl but I can't forget that it was his guy who fell on Mahomes' ankle in the Jags game.

emaw1979 02-21-2023 02:26 PM
I'm in the tag and trade him. He's average with a very good quality of being durable. He struggles against elite competition, especially quick guys, so he was dog crap during the hardest part of the schedule and got better when the competition got worse.

Megatron96 02-21-2023 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16821497)
Hooray if he's been working out and presumably the team does get a feel for it's own players.

[And the team only wanting to give a short contract wasn't exactly a rousing endorsement...]

But he has also been in a contract year the last two years.

So you don't know 100% what will happen when/if he gets a huge guaranteed contract...
Didn't Veach just offer him a 5 yr deal last season or whatever? Did I dream that?

tredadda 02-21-2023 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16821427)
There's no LT available to fit their needs?

They have the #1 overall pick. They could just draft one of those "can't miss" guys you mentioned earlier.
And get 5 years cost controlled with that pick.

tredadda 02-21-2023 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16821430)
Of course it is. It's why they're gonna sign OBJ and people will be pissed.
If they sign him long term then I will support it. At this point Veach has earned the benefit of the doubt based on how he has performed since becoming our GM.

htismaqe 02-21-2023 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16821709)
If they sign him long term then I will support it. At this point Veach has earned the benefit of the doubt based on how he has performed since becoming our GM.
Yep.

Oxford 02-21-2023 05:10 PM
Tackle Matthew Bergeron Syracuse, 2nd rd early 6.5 33.5" arms
Tackle Cody Mauch North Dakota State, 2nd rd late 6.5 32" arms

Draft scouts say they are better pass blockers than run, mobile on zone blocking scheme

Megatron96 02-21-2023 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Oxford (Post 16821899)
Tackle Matthew Bergeron Syracuse, 2nd rd early 6.5 33.5" arms
Tackle Cody Mauch North Dakota State, 2nd rd late 6.5 32" arms

Draft scouts say they are better pass blockers than run, mobile on zone blocking scheme
We aren't drafting baby-armed LTs; CP has been pretty clear about their bias against T-Rex type players in general. The only baby-arms CP wants to see are in a player's shorts.

Oxford 02-21-2023 05:28 PM
Now the "who gets paid game??". It comes down to replace ability.

Would it be better to pay OBjr or CJ? I would say you would be better off paying CJ (through an extension) than a long-term contract for OBjr. This of course makes the assumption that we are not in dire need of cap space. Thus I would tag and continue to talk about contract with OBjr. Knowing full well he wont be seen until training camp and he'll be under performing for the first part of next season.

kccrow 02-21-2023 05:29 PM
Madden trade 101:

Chiefs trade OT Orlando Brown, LB Willie Gay 2023 1st #31, 2023 2nd #63, 2023 3rd #95, and 2024 1st to Chicago for 2023 1st #1

Chiefs trade Colts 2023 1st #1 for 2023 1st #4, 2023 2nd #35, 2023 4th #105, 2024 1st

Chiefs draft OT Paris Johnson at #4

Profit.

Tribal Warfare 02-21-2023 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsLV (Post 16821572)
I'm on the trade-him bandwagon unless there's no other option. He was good in the Superbowl but I can't forget that it was his guy who fell on Mahomes' ankle in the Jags game.
This

Megatron96 02-21-2023 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Oxford (Post 16821918)
Now the "who gets paid game??". It comes down to replace ability.

Would it be better to pay OBjr or CJ? I would say you would be better off paying CJ (through an extension) than a long-term contract for OBjr. This of course makes the assumption that we are not in dire need of cap space. Thus I would tag and continue to talk about contract with OBjr. Knowing full well he wont be seen until training camp and he'll be under performing for the first part of next season.
Not arguing the logic.

Just saying that somehow Veach thought he could both sign OBJ and keep CJ.

Oxford 02-21-2023 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16821909)
We aren't drafting baby-armed LTs; CP has been pretty clear about their bias against T-Rex type players in general. The only baby-arms CP wants to see are in a player's shorts.
Veach is drafting, and since Wylie is likely gone, you need a OT developmental prospect. Andy like OT's with good feet and they seem to fit his qualifications. Great length and arms hasn't helped OBjr. Frankly I think the whole day 1 is set up for a tradeback into another 2nd and an extra 3rd. You know Veach gets into "Monty Hall" mode on draft day

New World Order 02-21-2023 05:35 PM
Chiefs trade Patrick Mahomes for Charles Leno jr

Sassy Squatch 02-21-2023 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 16821928)
Chiefs trade Patrick Mahomes for Charles Leno jr
Washington would say no, you ignorant buffoon.


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