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Woogieman 01-07-2023 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 16716757)
Literally everyone thinks they should have finished the game. Logistically, it couldn't happen with no slack time available.

I just wish that we, as a fanbase, could at least TRY to be objective about this stuff. All of these are objectively true:

1. The result would have been far more "pure" if they'd played the game. They couldn't.
2. The NFL has rules that should have been used, but those rules absolutely, 100% favored the Chiefs more than any other team. It's BS that they didn't just stick with the rules, but..
3. The Chiefs still came out well ahead here.

I don't understand why we can't just acknowledge that all of those can be true simultaneously.
I'm confused:
-"They couldn't (finish the game)...": they could have, they left town and chose not to.

-"The NFL HAS RULES THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN USED...that 100% favored the Chiefs"

-"The Chiefs came out well ahead here"...debatable and unknowable. In light of #2 especially, the ire of Chief fans is perfectly understandable. RULES...WERE...IN...PLACE, and yes, for this scenario. I was watching the game where Darryl Stingley was paralyzed. I remember well the Belcher murder-suicide. Face it, the NFL was too afraid of social media backlash, and MADE shit up on the fly...it is their prerogative to do so, it is our prerogative as THE CUSTOMER to both question the motives and the wisdom of that decision. Since we have a playoff team and a generational QB, we will continue to watch, and continue to spend our deflated currency on this debacle, and watching cheffers turn our games into porn; bitching and challenging the league's stupidity is valid and all we have.

Bearcat 01-07-2023 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 16716839)
When other QBs beat him, it props them up and is good for competitive balance. Pretty simple, actually.

They don’t want him out of the spotlight, they just don’t want him winning the AFC every single year. It’s bad for overall business. They have 4 legit superstar QBs in this conference now. They have to maximize the star power of all of them.
Yeah, but that's just writing a fan fiction narrative to play victim after things have happened.

Brady wins every other Super Bowl for 20 years... east coast bias, doing whatever it takes to keep Brady winning SBs, etc.

Chiefs don't win every other SB... well, they need to spread the love, it's bad for business having one QB win all the time....

The number of times people say "the NFL wants..." around here, you'd think half the board hangs out with Roger on the weekends.

Bearcat 01-07-2023 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 16716843)
They hate Mahomes.

They hate us for 2019

We beat Brady more than the Bills and Bengals did, and won more in the playoffs. That’s the honest truth, we are probably the main team they want to see go down. It’s been this way ever since we got Mahomes. They hate that we overcame them in the AFC.
I think it's pretty much only the last part... I'm sure they hated hearing about "the next Brady" for 20 years, every time some QB was coming out of the draft.

And then Mahomes comes along and everyone is saying screw the next Brady, this guy is way better... yeah, I'm sure that chapped their asses.

It's very similar around here, some people hate any comparison to Mahomes and it's something we'll be reading about until he retires.

Chief3188 01-07-2023 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16716787)
Yeah, but people just assume it was "**** off, Chiefs" after 2018 all because the Patriots won, and "**** off, Chiefs" this past season because they won.

That outcome happened at least twice within a handful of seasons, during two of the biggest games in recent history.

I think it's logical NOT to change the rules just because something happens every blue moon, but to look at changing the rules if that thing starts happening with some regularity. I also think it's logical to not give into the first team that complains about the rules because it negatively impacted them, but to look at rules when multiple teams start complaining.

And I have no idea how that works behind the scenes with voting and what not either... if it's something that barely didn't pass before and then passed later, or if it was just a unilateral decision by someone.

I just feel like it's more complicated than "**** you, Chiefs" and east coast bias.

Just like a lot of this crap, where every team's message board is loaded with "our team got ****ed", when really only the Bengals should be saying that at all (beyond the NFL not following their own rules, of course).
That is a fair point and totally makes sense.... Except at the media's reaction after that game this past postseason. It was consistently lines of "The Bills got cheated", "I can't believe this happened and this needs to change now" and just the recency bias accompanied with the blatant disregard of it happening to the Chiefs. There were very few stories or support of the same situation in 2018 in what quite frankly was a more important game being the Championship game and not the divisional. When the Chiefs suggested it, it couldn't even get enough support to make a vote on it. Then with the media reaction and East Coast push, it flew into the rule book quicker than Joshy's smile disappearing after the 13 seconds.

gold_and_red 01-07-2023 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16716809)
Heres the problem with this conspiracy and all others concerning the NFL towards the Chiefs makes no sense....... Mahomes = ratings. He's exciting to watch. He's never on TMZ doing stupid shit. The guy is a walking embodiment of what the shield want in their players.

Why would the NFL push their money maker out of the way?
As others have pointed out, they need stories other than Mahomes being a SB favorite too frequently. They can make money by keeping him relevant without pushing hard. He is that kind of a unicorn.
NFL has gone out of their way to hand favorable conditions to the Bills. Wonder if that is related to them being a runaway preseason favorite :hmmm:. The league will do a lot to keep narratives alive and the ensuing coverage and money that come with those, Mahomes or not.

DrunkBassGuitar 01-07-2023 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 16716843)
They hate Mahomes.

They hate us for 2019

We beat Brady more than the Bills and Bengals did, and won more in the playoffs. That’s the honest truth, we are probably the main team they want to see go down. It’s been this way ever since we got Mahomes. They hate that we overcame them in the AFC.
If I'm a patriots fan I'd still hold Brady's ACL tear against the Chiefs as well

Hammock Parties 01-07-2023 12:18 PM
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KCUnited 01-07-2023 12:20 PM
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Bearcat 01-07-2023 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Chief3188 (Post 16716924)
That is a fair point and totally makes sense.... Except at the media's reaction after that game this past postseason. It was consistently lines of "The Bills got cheated", "I can't believe this happened and this needs to change now" and just the recency bias accompanied with the blatant disregard of it happening to the Chiefs. There were very few stories or support of the same situation in 2018 in what quite frankly was a more important game being the Championship game and not the divisional. When the Chiefs suggested it, it couldn't even get enough support to make a vote on it. Then with the media reaction and East Coast push, it flew into the rule book quicker than Joshy's smile disappearing after the 13 seconds.
There was plenty of talk about it, as a whole helluva lot of people hate the Patriots... there were probably MORE people rooting for the Chiefs to knock off Brady and the Patriots than there was for any given side of Chiefs/Bills.



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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 16169094)
This times a million

KC loses to the Patriots due to the 1 possession overtime shit
*crickets*

KC wins over the Bills due to teh 1 possession overtime shit

Now it's time to change the rules


**** THE NFL

jettio 01-07-2023 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16716762)
I really don't get why people complain about the OT rule change.

I know Chiefs fans want to play victim on it, but I think part of the rule change is because it's happened multiple times in recent history, not despite 2018.

FFS, it's what the Chiefs wanted, and not changing it after 2018 benefited the Chiefs last postseason... really nothing to bitch about there.
True, nobody knows which team will be first to win a postseason game in OT after losing coin toss and giving up a TD on the original possession.

I know that the least sympathetic loser of a postseason game in OT ever, is going to be the one that wins the OT coin toss, takes the ball, scores a TD, kicks off to other team, gives up a TD and goes on to lose.

Chief3188 01-07-2023 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 16716947)
There was plenty of talk about it, as a whole helluva lot of people hate the Patriots... there were probably MORE people rooting for the Chiefs to knock off Brady and the Patriots than there was for any given side of Chiefs/Bills.
There were a few scattered about no doubt. Go do a google or yahoo search on "Chiefs Patriots overtime loss" and "Chiefs Bills overtime loss" and tell me which one you have to cipher through more to find these articles. I would post all of the links but I am not that invested in this as this is just my opinion.

ChiefsHawk 01-07-2023 12:37 PM
The thing that pisses me off is if the Bengals get to the AFCCG the game it is being played at a neutral site because they had a 1% of getting first. If the Chiefs and kitties make it it should be played in Arrowhead as the Bengals have 4 losses regardless.

smithandrew051 01-07-2023 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk (Post 16716978)
The thing that pisses me off is if the Bengals get to the AFCCG the game it is being played at a neutral site because they had a 1% of getting first. If the Chiefs and kitties make it it should be played in Arrowhead as the Bengals have 4 losses regardless.
The only way that would be a neutral site game is if the Chiefs lose and Bengals win this weekend.

Bearcat 01-07-2023 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk (Post 16716978)
The thing that pisses me off is if the Bengals get to the AFCCG the game it is being played at a neutral site because they had a 1% of getting first. If the Chiefs and kitties make it it should be played in Arrowhead as the Bengals have 4 losses regardless.
It's only at a neutral site if the Bengals, Raiders, and Patriots all win this weekend... because that's the only scenario (plus had the Bengals beaten the Bills) that would have put the game in Cincy.

Sassy Squatch 01-07-2023 12:43 PM
How is this so complicated to understand?!? Holy ****balls


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