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'Hamas' Jenkins 03-14-2013 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9496324)
How many sacks did Andrew Luck take in 2012?

In all fairness, the 49er line is tremendous; the Colts have a sieve.

Rasputin 03-14-2013 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9496324)
How many sacks did Andrew Luck take in 2012?

Rooky QB vs a 9 year vet. How many hits do you think Alex Smith can take this season?

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9496324)
How many sacks did Andrew Luck take in 2012?

41, but he played behind maybe the worst line in football, and threw it more than almost anyone.

Meanwhile Alex takes 44 playing behind an excellent line, throwing it less than almost anyone.

The stats don't support Alex very well.

Rasputin 03-14-2013 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9496324)
How many sacks did Andrew Luck take in 2012?

Andrew Luck isn't known to have durability issues that is something Alex Smith takes with him to Arrowhead.

Ninjafitz 03-14-2013 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9496323)
What was also cool that your scored more points with Colin Kaepernick.

**** YPC.

26 ppg with Colin in the regular season.
23.6 ppg with Alex in the regular season.

not much difference there. Stop acting like it was suddenly the 49ers were scoring a ton more points. They really weren't.

jd34 03-14-2013 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9496281)
I'd also add that not having Vernon Davis is probably going to be a bigger problem than people think.

While we have Bowe, when your QB can't threaten past 20 yards, WRs become far less effective.

Without the additional threat of a freak athletic TE controlling the hash, and absolutely changing coverages, defenses are going to defend Alex Smith differently here, I'd wager. Particularly in the red zone.

Davis runs two routes well: crossing and wheel routes to the outside. He can also get behind the defense if they try to guard seam routes with a LB (most teams now put a safety on him). He does not read defenses well nor does he have the agility to quickly find and move to the opening in the zone on blitzes. Consequently he is a matchup problem on deep routes but does not run the routes a QB needs in order to be able to get rid of the ball quickly under pressure. He is just not good inside the hash marks. That is one reason Smith took so many sacks in SF. It is also the reason many are predicting they will use the #34 pick on Zach Ertz who is more the traditional TE that can be a quick relief valve for a QB.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninjafitz (Post 9496338)
26 ppg with Colin in the regular season.
23.6 ppg with Alex in the regular season.

not much difference there. Stop acting like it was suddenly the 49ers were scoring a ton more points. They really weren't.

How convenient that you ignore the postseason, dipshit.

Ninjafitz 03-14-2013 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 9496330)
Rooky QB vs a 9 year vet. How many hits do you think Alex Smith can take this season?

Alex is one of the toughest players out there man. He played in 2007 about 5 games with a separated shoulder.

Hammock Parties 03-14-2013 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jd34 (Post 9496341)
Davis runs two routes well: crossing and wheel routes to the outside. He can also get behind the defense if they try to guard seam routes with a LB (most teams now put a safety on him). He does not read defenses well nor does he have the agility to quickly find and move to the opening in the zone on blitzes. Consequently he is a matchup problem on deep routes but does not run the routes a QB needs in order to be able to get rid of the ball quickly under pressure. He is just not good inside the hash marks. That is one reason Smith took so many sacks in SF. It is also the reason many are predicting they will use the #34 pick on Zach Ertz who is more the traditional TE that can be a quick relief valve for a QB.

That shitty Vernon Davis, if only Alex had a real TE.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-14-2013 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninjafitz (Post 9496338)
26 ppg with Colin in the regular season.
23.6 ppg with Alex in the regular season.

not much difference there. Stop acting like it was suddenly the 49ers were scoring a ton more points. They really weren't.

45, 28, 31 aren't just BINGO numbers.

Easy 6 03-14-2013 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9496256)
That's all well and good, but we don't have the #2 defense.

Smith is going to have to do more than just excel at timing routes with one WR.

And for all his "robotic goodness," it didn't help him a lick on third-down for his entire career.

If we can't convert third downs our significantly less-than-#2-defense is going to wilt.

A fair enough post.

This somehow reminds me of posting my own personal epiphany about Reid no more than 48 hours before he was signed, long after i had made many impassioned posts saying how incredibly stupid choosing him would be... i was startled with myself for changing so quickly.

But i literally changed my view 180 within fifteen minutes of seriously pondering why Reid would still be coaching football after his ordeals, and i thought...

"Here is a proven winner with all of the pedigrees, who is going to forego any kind of life break whatsoever in his singleminded chase for the Ring... and he wants to BURN IN here in pursuit of it?"

Thats EXACTLY the kind of fanaticism that changed my mind that night... if a driven guy like that isnt yet satisifed with his accomplishments, and wouldnt have a clue what to do with himself without football... then PLEASE feel welcome to fix it with my team.

Point is, if he covets Axl even half as much as some say, then his one track mind has spent many a feverish hour considering all of the angles... Axl will do -for now-, reid surely knows he isnt getting any younger, he wants to get back to contention NOW.

Throw in a no nonsense Dorsey to control the rudder... and i'm trying to be hopeful and believe theres a method to the madness.

BossChief 03-14-2013 12:09 AM

Alex Smith averaged just over 200 combined passing and rushing yards per game

Colin Kaepernick averaged well over 300

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9496329)
In all fairness, the 49er line is tremendous; the Colts have a sieve.

Of course.

Suffice to say, the Chiefs will have the best WR corps he's ever had, NCAA or NFL, and there's no reason to think that Reid and Dorsey are finished.

I realize that most Chiefs fans aren't familiar with San Fran teams since 2005, but Smith has truly had nothing but shit for the overwhelming majority of his career.

Bowe, Avery and even McCluster are upgrades. HUGE upgrades, IMO.

DaneMcCloud 03-14-2013 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9496351)
Alex Smith averaged just over 200 combined passing and rushing yards per game

Colin Kaepernick averaged well over 300

Who ****ing cares?

Please link us to even ONE person that's said that Smith is just as good or equal to Kaepernick.

motto1997 03-14-2013 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninjafitz (Post 9496338)
26 ppg with Colin in the regular season.
23.6 ppg with Alex in the regular season.

not much difference there. Stop acting like it was suddenly the 49ers were scoring a ton more points. They really weren't.

Cause 4 points isn't important right? No difference? Chump change? LMAO, stay off the Niner forums Alice lover.


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