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ToxSocks 07-26-2013 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579 (Post 9835989)
Eh. I don't know about that. Megatron doesn't make quick cuts. Randy moss, never made quick cuts. Its way more about route running, than Cuts.

Its about if you are a bigger guy, like Plaxico Burress, its about using your size to shield. Its almost physically impossible for big receives ala Art Monk, Herman Moore, Megatron, Randy Moss, to make quick cuts.....

Uhmmm....yes they do. wth?

You think they get open simply because they're big and fast?

Making quick cuts/fast twitch movement is part of running routes. That's what makes guys like Megatron and Moss such great talents, because they're a complete package.

Dwayne Bowe is another example of that. He's a big dude that can stop and cut on a dime.

Big, lumbering receivers simply struggle to get open. For as fast as they might be, the DB's are just as fast.

O.city 07-26-2013 12:55 PM

Quick cuts and route running are one in the same.

You have to be able to run good clean crisp routes to gain separation (unless you have ungodly ability) and even then it's tough.

Look at Randy Moss for example. Late in his career, he was just a burner who ran 9's and posts. But early in his career, he was an excellent route runner.

ToxSocks 07-26-2013 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9835999)
Baldwin can be a Vincent Jackson kind of player if put into positions where he can down the field 1 on 1 with a DB and just play jump ball.

Baldwin doesn't have nearly the quickness that Jackson has.

That's Baldwins problem. He's plodding and lacks agility....that and he can't seem to time his jumps very well.

O.city 07-26-2013 12:56 PM

Not only that, but defenders are intelligent in that they can use their physicality to bump guys in breaks to throw them off routes if you dont' run good routes.

tomahawk kid 07-26-2013 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 9835460)
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/Vndh77xCXzY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

That can't be real, can it?

kcxiv 07-26-2013 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid (Post 9836188)
That can't be real, can it?

i thought it was fake til i heard that cry cough in the middle. lol Thats when kids cry for a long time, they do the same thing. lol

mcaj22 07-26-2013 02:28 PM

Baldwin has no balance for being as big as he is, and thus every 5'9 CB can jam him at the LOS and throw him completely off the route and the disrupt the timing of the pattern

until he learns how to beat the press, hes useless. He's just too big and he cant control all his size from being jammed. Top heavy frame. If CBs werent allowed to be physical or touch you the guy would be awesome, like how he was in college. But the NFL you are almost getting jammed every play if that's the strategy how to stop you

That's the gameplan on him, which is why defenses can stack in the box against JC or roll double coverage over to Bowe cause we have no other respectable threat. They just send some shitty to press Baldwin and that's it

chiefsfan987 07-26-2013 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9835690)
Any Radio Stations doing live camp coverage?

810 is live and they have live video too... http://www.810whbtv.com/#!between-the-lines/c1rrb

-King- 07-26-2013 02:31 PM

Practice just started.

BossChief 07-26-2013 02:37 PM

I wonder if we can get a 3rd or 4th from NE for Baldwin. Maybe package Moeaki and Baldwin for a third?

Mr. Laz 07-26-2013 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 9835724)
That is 230 lbs that high up in the air. A 190 lb CB has no chance against that. (And Mark Castle couldn't hit a target like that.)

i look forward to Baldwin's 1100 yrds and 18 TD's this year then.


:doh!:

-King- 07-26-2013 02:46 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Jamaal, Tamba and DJ in the house <a href="http://t.co/IlI0nSXGDV">pic.twitter.com/IlI0nSXGDV</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Pride (@ArrowheadPride) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride/statuses/360858761696530433">July 26, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Big Red in the house <a href="http://t.co/IoXJ0ssaFY">pic.twitter.com/IoXJ0ssaFY</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Pride (@ArrowheadPride) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride/statuses/360859139284533248">July 26, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Camp Andy opens with Welcome to the Jungle <a href="http://t.co/lEk3awIBt2">pic.twitter.com/lEk3awIBt2</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Pride (@ArrowheadPride) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride/statuses/360860398532063232">July 26, 2013</a></blockquote>
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O.city 07-26-2013 02:53 PM

Bowe not practicing today, working with trainers on the sideline.

O.city 07-26-2013 02:56 PM

Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71 59s
Alex Smith airs it out to Dexter McCluster in the 1st play for 11 on 11

Hammock Parties 07-26-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9836235)
Nick Jacobs ‏@Jacobs71 59s
Alex Smith airs it out to Dexter McCluster in the 1st play for 11 on 11

3-yard gain?


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