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KingPriest2 10-10-2023 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17158995)
We also need to take into account we could cut Justin Reid if it helps keep Sneed. Reid has been decent but if you have to choose only one guy to pay in the secondary, it has to be Sneed. Reid is due $14.5 million and you can save $11.5 million letting him go. No way is he worth that kind of cap hit.

This seems like the way to make it happen.

It’s 3.5 dead money 10.7. Cap savings pre June 1

Post June 1 is the sane

TwistedChief 10-10-2023 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17159268)
So why does PFF have him graded so low this year?

I can see 2 things that would contribute: 1/ they’re not taking into consideration that he has the hardest job on the field. ie, he’s getting graded traveling with Justin Jefferson as he would be if he were covering Skyy Moore. and 2/ he does have a bunch of penalties this year.

saphojunkie 10-10-2023 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17159268)
So why does PFF have him graded so low this year?

Because PFF's algorithm is trash, as is its owner's assessment of pretty much everything.

JPH83 10-10-2023 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17159318)
I can see 2 things that would contribute: 1/ they’re not taking into consideration that he has the hardest job on the field. ie, he’s getting graded traveling with Justin Jefferson as he would be if he were covering Skyy Moore. and 2/ he does have a bunch of penalties this year.

PFF scored Sneed as better againt the Jets, both overall and specifically in coverage, than the Vikings. This despite, as far as I can tell, scoring him as performing better against the Jets in just about every coverage measure - fewer penalties, shorter longest yardage against, lower % of targets against received, lower passer rating against etc etc. So it's almost like they did factor in the opponent (i mean, they didn't, it's just that nothing makes much sense in their DB scores).

It looks like they're marking him down mainly on his tackling and how he's played the run.

I think the worst thing about their scoring of DBs, and I doubt there's a way round it, is context. If Sneed loses a step on a guy, or misjudges an angle and gives up, say, 8 yards, or a 1st down, or 15 yards, he gets dinged. Fair enough, but if he chases that guy down and prevents a 40yrd touchdown to win the game, that's sort of important and in my book a "good" or at least "good enough" play, not a mistake. It's why you can see what feels like a massive play by Sneed what feels like every game, and yet he gets a s***y score because he gave up a load of short yardage stuff.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2023 11:21 AM

SNEED BROKE HIM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vikings officially have placed WR Justin Jefferson on IR.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1712155961345851611?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 11, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Gary Cooper 10-11-2023 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17160485)
SNEED BROKE HIM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vikings officially have placed WR Justin Jefferson on IR.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1712155961345851611?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 11, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Needs to do the same to Tyreek.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2023 12:44 PM

DB has a right to his spot on the field

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">a feeding frenzy <a href="https://t.co/loq6ZDEh3s">pic.twitter.com/loq6ZDEh3s</a></p>&mdash; Nate Tice (@Nate_Tice) <a href="https://twitter.com/Nate_Tice/status/1711875776713474362?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ThaVirus 10-11-2023 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17160485)
SNEED BROKE HIM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vikings officially have placed WR Justin Jefferson on IR.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1712155961345851611?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 11, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It was a pulled hammy, dude. Sneed wasn’t even touching him when he pulled it.

Chief Pagan 10-11-2023 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17159318)
I can see 2 things that would contribute: 1/ they’re not taking into consideration that he has the hardest job on the field. ie, he’s getting graded traveling with Justin Jefferson as he would be if he were covering Skyy Moore. and 2/ he does have a bunch of penalties this year.

So I realize it's always going to be hard. But at least for man coverage, you think they could take a little consideration of whether you are covering a Tyreek or a Skyy and whether you're on an island or have safety help.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2023 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17160677)
It was a pulled hammy, dude. Sneed wasn’t even touching him when he pulled it.

Cumulative

KCJake 10-11-2023 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 17159184)
Man of all the things to worry about, losing Willie Gay isn't one of them. Not saying he isn't good, just not a priority for roster construction.

Absolutely agree. I like Gay but if it comes down to Sneed vs him that's an easy call. Sneed is the shit and only gonna get better. He could be the premier guy at his position in another year or two.

Fansy the Famous Bard 10-11-2023 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJake (Post 17160870)
Absolutely agree. I like Gay but if it comes down to Sneed vs him that's an easy call. Sneed is the shit and only gonna get better. He could be the premier guy at his position in another year or two.

Sneed already is the premier guy at his position.

Rain Man 10-11-2023 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17160677)
It was a pulled hammy, dude. Sneed wasn’t even touching him when he pulled it.

Sneed can do that with a threatening glare.

Chris Meck 10-11-2023 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17160677)
It was a pulled hammy, dude. Sneed wasn’t even touching him when he pulled it.

Why do you hate fun?

staylor26 10-11-2023 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17161098)
Why do you hate fun?

Well ACHSHUUAALLY


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