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RunKC 01-02-2024 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17316142)
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Uh, okay, I'll bite: which WRs aside from Rice are "doing the little things right"?


Because I literally can't think of a single one.

Aside from the one error play lining up, has Richie not been a decent player? 54 yards last week, 1 catch and a very good punt return this week.

Watson has gotten open and caught deep passes twice in 3 games. His one drop in the Bengals game was a tough contested catch.

Hardman made a critical catch in the Chargers game and had an awesome pun return.

These guys are getting magnified right now bc of MVS. If that asshole catches Mahomes pass it's a TD and the Chiefs get 29 points instead of 25. Erase him and the WR's are not killing the team.

But again they aren't stars. They're just decent players that haven't killed us like Skyy, MVS and Toney have.

Megatron96 01-02-2024 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17316161)
Aside from the one error play lining up, has Richie not been a decent player? 54 yards last week, 1 catch and a very good punt return this week.

Watson has gotten open and caught deep passes twice in 3 games. His one drop in the Bengals game was a tough contested catch.

Hardman made a critical catch in the Chargers game and had an awesome pun return.

These guys are getting magnified right now bc of MVS. If that asshole catches Mahomes pass it's a TD and the Chiefs get 29 points instead of 25. Erase him and the WR's are not killing the team.

But again they aren't stars. They're just decent players that haven't killed us like Skyy, MVS and Toney have.



The book might still be open on James. But he's been a non-factor as a Chief so far. He was also the guy that effed up that crossing route Week 1. maybe he'll do something significant in the playoffs. In the regular season he's done next to nothing, one 54-yard game notwithstanding.


Watson is a ST player, nothing more. He catches 1-2 passes a game and next to no points, and he's regressed to a 50% catch rate guy. "caught deep passes twice in 3 games." Holy shit, the bar is ****ing low for some people.

Hardman is in the same boat with James. Hasn't done anything of note yet but might still be productive in the playoffs. We can still have a glimmer of hope. I always liked Hardman, for what he was, not what he could maybe become, but I'm realistic about what he can do. Given his skillsets, I understand he's going to run a lot of gadget stuff, but I wish they'd send him deep more often. We'll see what happens.


Bottom line though, these guys aren't very good. None of them. At best, James/Hardman is a low-end 3, top-end WR4. But that's it. If we cut them all tomorrow, not one team would sign them for the playoffs, and i have doubts any would be signed during the offseason, by any NFL team. Maybe James on some 1-yr min rate deal before beginning his new career as a car salesman in 2025.

Oxford 01-02-2024 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 17315331)
This is where Veach could zag when people expect him to zig.

Kinda like the Thuney deal when everyone expected a LT

Kind of like Billy Beane? I hope Josh Palmer comes free from LAC, always has big days against the Chiefs

lcarus 01-02-2024 08:06 PM

I think a guy like Curtis Samuel is underrated and could fit in well in KC. He's only 27. Plus he wouldn't cost a ton. I'm not saying sign Samuel and all our problems are fixed. But I think he would be a plus addition here.

ForeverIowan 01-02-2024 09:58 PM

Id keep an eye out for Xavier Lagette at the end of the 1st round. He reminds me a lot of AJ Brown who Veach was clearly intrigued by. 6'3" 227 lbs dude is impressive. Huge YAC guy which Reid loves in his offense. If he runs well at the combine his draft stock is going to soar.

O.city 01-02-2024 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17316092)
And the Ravens WR's are also comparable to KC, remember when you were pushing that idea?


LMAO

Even as bad as kc has been…..the ravens wrs aren’t exactly setting the world on fire no?

staylor26 01-02-2024 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17316335)
Even as bad as kc has been…..the ravens wrs aren’t exactly setting the world on fire no?

No, they're really not.

Rice has been more productive than Flowers.

OBJ has similar production to Watson, but he had that big prime time game!

They're better, but not worthy of the dick sucking they've been receiving all season from MahomesMagic.

Dunerdr 01-02-2024 10:57 PM

Hollywood is going to be our desean Jackson. And we aren’t tagging jones. Get used to it.

kevrunner 01-02-2024 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17316335)
Even as bad as kc has been…..the ravens wrs aren’t exactly setting the world on fire no?

To be fair Mahomes has 140 more pass attempts than Lamar Jackson. That needs to be taken into consideration when comparing the WRs production.

Chris Meck 01-03-2024 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 17316332)
Id keep an eye out for Xavier Lagette at the end of the 1st round. He reminds me a lot of AJ Brown who Veach was clearly intrigued by. 6'3" 227 lbs dude is impressive. Huge YAC guy which Reid loves in his offense. If he runs well at the combine his draft stock is going to soar.

He's an incredible physical specimen.

So why did he do absolutely nothing for four entire years, before deciding to be Megatron in his fifth?

kcbubb 01-03-2024 07:20 AM

The draft is absolutely loaded at wr. I’d rather draft three WRs than pick up a FA. Rookies are always more motivated.Legette has too much bust potential for me. He could be a stud but he could also bust. Too many good options in this draft.

RunKC 01-03-2024 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17316335)
Even as bad as kc has been…..the ravens wrs aren’t exactly setting the world on fire no?

Nelson Agholor was literally MVS in Philly. Those fans hated him. they couldn't get rid of him quicker.

Dunerdr 01-03-2024 08:00 AM

I think for me it really comes down to is Veach trying to bandaid the situation or solve it in one off season. Do you sign a Mike Evans who might only have one good year left? That still leave you needing a Chark or Samuels deep threat. We cant count on any rookie production for 2024. I keep coming back to Hollywood. He can fill multiple roles. Locks up the z for years to come, rice plays off of him and leaves you the flexibility to let the draft fall to you .

duncan_idaho 01-03-2024 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17316478)
I think for me it really comes down to is Veach trying to bandaid the situation or solve it in one off season. Do you sign a Mike Evans who might only have one good year left? That still leave you needing a Chark or Samuels deep threat. We cant count on any rookie production for 2024. I keep coming back to Hollywood. He can fill multiple roles. Locks up the z for years to come, rice plays off of him and leaves you the flexibility to let the draft fall to you .

This is about where I'm at. And it assumes Brown's contract lands somewhere in the Christian Kirk territory. I think that's fair and a deal that would make sense for KC.

O.city 01-03-2024 09:42 AM

With inflation, you're probably at about 20 million per year.....for Hollywood.

I'm way out on that.


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