We just want to know what we have with him.

If you’re saying you have to go all the way back 14 years to find a single pitcher worth a shit that DM drafted.....seems like we are saying the same thing.

A) The Padres were in a pennant race and making a trade for a reliever who was having an outstanding season. It's not like they traded him for nothing.
B) We just want to see what Olivares can do. He was tearing it up in AAA, but for some reason they refuse to give him any meaningful opportunity in an offense that is woefully underperforming.

Kowar was originally slated to start tonight, but now it says TBD. Any idea what's going on there?

Somebody on Twitter posted this reply to Olivares being sent down again. ROFL

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Edward Olivares: <a href="https://t.co/aEKCRVtCsT">pic.twitter.com/aEKCRVtCsT</a></p>&mdash; Kane⚡️ (@LegionofZoomSZN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LegionofZoomSZN/status/1405574063163072518?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Olivares new nickname is CJ Spiller

Mock draft
7th pick.
Kumar Rocker, RHP, Vanderbilt

One of the few things that people around the industry seem to agree on is that Kansas City is likely to take Rocker if he gets here, and right now, he's seen as likely to get here. The Royals were on Rocker back to his high school days, and he fits their recent preference for major conference college arms. They're on House as well, and I'd imagine they would take a long look at Lawlar or Watson if either got this far

We doing an opener with Zimmer today?

And used Fangraphs WAR so Aaron Crow wouldn't be included.

Interesting.

O'Hearn is tearing up AAA as well, nobody wants him up here. If Olivares was worth a shit he would have been up here. He hasn't done much of anything when has been up in the bigs.

Honestly our best lineup coming up and I hate to say but Whit needs to move back to the outfield and while Benni is out needs to be in left field.

C - Salvy
1B - Santana
2B - Lopez
SS - Mondi
3B - Gutierrez
LF - Whit
CF - Taylor/Dyson platoon
RF - Dozier
DH - Soler

When Benni comes back off the IL:
C - Salvy
1B - Santana
2B - Lopez
SS - Mondi
3B - Dozier
LF - Benni
CF - Taylor/Dyson platoon
RF - Whit
DH - Soler

Play the matchup game with Alberto when needed.

Batting Order
1 - Whit (RF)
2 - Santana (1B)
3 - Benni (LF)
4 - Salvy (C)
5 - Mondi (SS)
6 - Soler (DH)
7 - Dozier (3B)
8 - Taylor/Dyson (CF)
9 - Lopez (2B)

I always use FG.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We have made the following roster moves. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> <a href="https://t.co/IPBmXocba4">pic.twitter.com/IPBmXocba4</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1405970247602016260?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Just call up the top 5 in Omaha and NW Ark and be done with it.
Plus Esky, obviously.

And another completely shit take.

O'Hearn has a -1.6 WAR over the last 4 years, 200+ games, 700+ PA's

Olivares has 38 games and 125 PA's in 2 years. No one knows if he's worth a shit or not. I'd say say he has a better chance of being good of being good than most of our other prospects based on the fact that he wasn't developed in our system.

All we are debating is whether you want Gutiérrez or Oliveres getting PT. I think that’s an obvious answer, but in the end, it’s the question.

Apparently some broke dicks get longer time to prove they're broke dicks.

Nicky Lopez seems to be getting serious at bats to prove he can't hit.

Lmao, smart!

Let's bring up the almost 36 year old who was dropped by AZ because of a 9.76 ERA this year and has had a negative War since 2018. He will pair nicely with Wade.

You are full of completely shitty takes all the time.

O'Hearn has proven over the course of several years that he can't hit major league pitching. Olivares has been yanked up and down, given a spot start here and there, and been given no realistic shot to prove anything. Not the same thing at all.

O'Hearn is the classic AAAA player. McBroom the same.

What makes you say that? McBroom has only had 175 plate appearances in his career, and he's done fine (.265/.320/.426).

Has he stuck a full season with the Royals? Nope. Why do you think that is?

Well, the answer to your first question is yes. He was on the team the whole season last year. He platooned with O'Hearn. I'm assuming you thought the answer to the first question was no, so I'm not really sure how to answer your second question.

You're counting a 60 game Covid season? Semantics... Semantics...

If he's that good, why is he not here to sub for Benny?

I'm not saying he's the answer. I'm just saying he hasn't had enough playing opportunity to be labeled a AAAA player like O'Hearn.

LMAO

Yeah. I'm intrigued. Going to my first game of the season today and I wasn't really looking forward to watching Kowar turn in a performance I can see a couple times a week from my 9 year old's little league team. Hopefully, this works out better

So, of the 8 K's last night, Soler (.187) and Dozier (.148) had 2 apiece. :shake:

Although, Soler did have a hit. He also accounted for 5 LOB, and Dozier 2 LOB. :rolleyes:

I really think it would do Dozier some good to send him down for a couple weeks -if he has options. That worked for Moose when he was going through this. Apparently our hitting coach and Dozier just aren't on the same page. We can't have three or four guys in the lineup hitting .220 or worse, and it happens all the time here. Soler should be embarrassed. Mondi comes in and hits a monster shot his first night back. Soler's K rate this season has been astronomical, especially if he's hitting fifth or sixth in the lineup. Lopez had a very good game last night. Like to see him be able to hit around .250 or .260. If he can do that consistently, he'll stick at second. Very satisfying win last night in front of a big crowd. Its good not to crap the bed in front of a big crowd.

Any ideas why Mondi isn’t in the lineup?

Probably rest. I'm sure he isn't 100% yet

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No wonder Mondi and Salvy went deep.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TogetherRoyal?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TogetherRoyal</a> <a href="https://t.co/PXSShhjMzw">pic.twitter.com/PXSShhjMzw</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Royals (@Royals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Royals/status/1406273063453331457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽

Easily the best lookalike I've seen

I had no idea that wasn't Andy until I read the comments. Should call him Big Blue.

Fooled me.

Andy not going to take a selfie & sit by himself.

Probably wouldn't wear a SB ring to the game either.

Years ago, there was a Guy Fieri looking guy in the stands. And it completely fooled the Royals broadcasting team. Joel Goldberg even went into the stands to interview him. I wish I could find the video of it? This was around 2008 to 2010….

Brother of Andy and Randy, this is Sandy.

@LWorthySports: Mike Matheny said just a day off for Mondesi. They'd always planned to ease him back in from the hamstring. Sounds like they'll use days off and off days on schedule, strategically, as maintenance days for Mondi.

The voice gave it away for me. Much higher than Andy's voice.

Wat

Wat what?

When did fake Andy ever talk in that video?

Thanks for that!

So are we just going to let Kowar pitch out of the pen in low leverage situations for now?

There is more than one video of that guy. Scroll down to the next video.

Here I'll make it easier for you

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"> <a href="https://t.co/fExdskr3Z7">pic.twitter.com/fExdskr3Z7</a></p>&mdash; Nikki B (@ilovepepper34) <a href="https://twitter.com/ilovepepper34/status/1406292870085197830?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I watched that game and remember that too. I recall thinking to myself “man, guy seems like an arrogant prick” in the interview they had.
Guess we know why now.

I looked up Dozier and Soler's stats through today's games. I was jazzed coming into the year for the promise of both of these guys. The original plan was they were supposed to be the number four and number five guys going into the season. Both guys are hitting under .190, and the amount of bad ABs and especially strikeouts are unbelievable. I captured Soler's numbers just as a Royal, didn't grab his Cubs stuff as that really doesn't apply now. Dozier was the eighth player selected in the draft his year. He had a very good year in 2019 and has tanked ever since. Soler has always struck out a lot, but lots of power hitters strike out a lot. He has drawn over 20 walks this season. Only thing is, you need Soler for firepower. You need him to drive in RBIs, not walk. Dozier kind of reminds me a little of late career Jeff Francouer. Had a flash or two in his career, then spiraled down and down and never got back to his promise in Atlanta. He did play 12 years and was a career .261 hitter. I don't know if Dozier is going to last that long in MLB at the rate he's going. Dozier has whiffed 59 times and he's hitting 90 points below his career average, which is currently .238. Maybe this is what and who he really is. Both of these guys may be responsible how many runners we've stranded in scoring position thusfar. I don't know what their stats are for stranding runners, but it's most likely up there among the team lead. I don't think Soler will be here next year. Dozier's new contract means they need to figure out what the Hell is wrong with him, and try to get him back to at least being an average MLB player. I'd take a .240 hitter for the rest of the season if he can manage that.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Cal Eldred came out for a mound visit. Brad Keller gave up a bomb...&quot; <a href="https://t.co/oVoUgxkh52">https://t.co/oVoUgxkh52</a> <a href="https://t.co/RkJYpotv8F">pic.twitter.com/RkJYpotv8F</a></p>&mdash; Royals Review (@royalsreview) <a href="https://twitter.com/royalsreview/status/1406370490806120449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah, these two, along with Keller, are by far the biggest reasons for KC's struggles this year. Three players who have proven they can play in the past, not playing anywhere near their capabilities. If those three play like they're supposed to, this team is likely in the thick of the playoff race.

What does Edward Olivares have to do to get some playing time? Benintendi is hurt, Dozier is like 0 for 100, Gutierrez is garbage, Taylor is awful, Soler can't hit or field. I can't understand why they keep trotting out 4-6 automatic outs every day and won't give this guy a chance.

Matheny

I watched The Padre's and Reds last night and was sad to see Tatis reinjured his shoulder and had to come out of the game.

Hope it isn't a prolonged injury needing surgery. He is such a fun player to watch that the whole Padres team is entertaining.

They're hoping they can delay the surgery until the offseason

Thanks! I hope he doesn't become injury prone like Mondi. That's my adopted NL team. Entertaining bunch and very hard to hate on.

I like watching the Padres too. Good young team, good balance. MLB network shows a lot of their games, since they are a West Coast Team they're on late at night often. Petco Park has been rockin. Since San Diego lost the Bolts, they're the only game in town now.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Your Double-A leader in home runs is Nick Pratto (<a href="https://twitter.com/n_pratto?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@n_pratto</a>)!<br><br>A 3-run shot in the first inning is his 12th of the season, giving him sole possession for the most home runs in all of Double-A!<a href="https://twitter.com/RoyalsPD?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RoyalsPD</a> <a href="https://t.co/3406kl7PiK">pic.twitter.com/3406kl7PiK</a></p>&mdash; NW Arkansas Naturals (@nwanaturals) <a href="https://twitter.com/nwanaturals/status/1406693026668367878?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Right on schedule to replace Santana.

We signed Santana for 2 years.

Unless you were implying his arrival time as 2023, which IMO seems about right. Give him this year in AA and next year in AAA to hopefully build on the success from this year.

Unless, of course, he plays so well in 2022 that he forces their hand early.

Correct. With split time next year between Omaha and Kansas City is likely.

It’s possible Santana would move to DH, replacing Soler, and Pratto would take over at 1B.

That's what I was thinking. Plenty of room on this team for Santana and Pratto.

If Mondesi is hurt again, time to make the transition to CF. I don't care about growing pains, learning curve, etc. Stick him out there and let him figure it out.

Moving to CF isn't gonna do much good when he literally gets hurt he's hitting or running the bases. I have no clue if this is the case, but I think he's kind of a pussy. It's like the instant he feels something that isn't 100% normal, then he believe he's too hurt to play anymore.

Probably another god damn oblique "injury" to keep him out 45 games.

This just goes way past being injury prone. I think he's just soft as hell.

This dude could make a massive, massive fortune by continuing to play. He is costing himself dearly by being out, so I don't think just saying "well, he's a wimp" really works, especially after he played the entirety of the COVID year (which he could have opted out before or anytime). Zimmer was also accused of this throughout his time in the minors, but the reality is that this is just kind of baseball and sometimes this bug just hits players and doesn't let go -- especially obliques, that's not really something to play through when you have to violently rely on it through multiple AB's per game. It's especially frustrating when we see it impacting Mondesi with the talent that he has -- but I just don't see him sitting out after the awful season he had last year. He has tens of millions on the table right now, I just don't think he'd give that up if there was any chance he could play through this.

Did they say anything definitive about Mondi? Was he hurt again, or were they just getting him out of the heat to rest up for the Yankees? I agree with the Pratto to 1B and DH Santana. Santana could be a lot like Kendreys Morales was for us. He has plate discipline; he's a switch hitter, and he gets on base. They should trade Soler if anybody will take him and make this move at the All Star Break.

Felt something in his side. :(

Trade Soler for a bag of baseballs and a pack of Big League Chew and call it a day.

Well, at least Mondi is "devastated":

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals GM Dayton Moore met with reporters today at his C You in the Major Leagues camp. He said SS Adalberto Mondesi is likely headed to the IL with a left oblique. Moore said Mondesi is devastated.</p>&mdash; Alec Lewis (@alec_lewis) <a href="https://twitter.com/alec_lewis/status/1407032709898199047?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Talk about being snakebit. I can't remember someone having a season quite like this. Is there something with his warmup or stretching routine that isn't helping this? It's better this year than next year I guess but still it's really disappointing.

WAR leaders

Salvy 1.9
Whit 1.7
Lil Nicky 1.1
Santana 1.1
Adapberto Watkins 0.8
Beni 0.7
Dyson 0.4
Taylor 0.4
Alberto 0.1
Guti -0.3
Doze -0.6
Soler -0.9

:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

Twitter turd reactions on Mondesi are hilarious to read.

Lol at "Adapberto Watkins"

Salvy and Whit having approx the same value this year is absurd. Salvy is getting dinged for all his games at DH.

Whit leads mlb in steals wirh 20 (caught only once), and plays a tough position

Of course he is. Armchair athletes saying he's made of glass, he's a pussy, he doesn't care, he's quitting on the team, etc. are ridiculous. The dude is a ballplayer. He wants to play ball.