The game decided the final team that made the playoffs.

Pretty sure it mattered.

Gangs of Shitsburgions heading to KC to take out ****up. Better hire security.

All the playoff teams won today except the Chiefs... :(

The good news is now we can treat this like Madden 25 and just go for it on 4th down all the time because Succop can't make kicks worth a shit.

How many started 20 backups?

Tell that to the second stringers who fought like hell to prove they belong in the NFL only to have it taken away by a starter. Irony is a bitch.

I thought so to, Why didn't they review that? It was stripped.

Simmer down, I didn't mean it literally. But the refs completely bungled that first down/fumble play in OT. It was a massive ****-up considering the situation and what was on the line there.

Are you thinking that play cost us 27 points, caused us puns up the gut (when we knew they weren't working), caused us to keep trying screens that weren't working. No.. So the miss certainly hurt and is a fluke, but many of the calls (on both sides of the ball) that weren't that one missed FG leave me wondering.

And I'm watching Andy just blow-off the horrible first-down call in OT. You know, he's "becoming all-to-typical" "oh well" sort of attitude/

But alas, we're in the playoffs, I guess that's all that matters.

So let's see him work his magic next year... It's WAAAAAAAY better than last year, but I'm not sure I'm sold that we'll sniff the SB under Andy. So it's better, but I may die before we win a super bowl.

Much more so, I'm sure. Their entire season was on the line when the refs decided to change their mind and call a first down.

If this has involved Denver or New England, it would be wall to wall coverage. ESPN would have a one hour show dedicated to the call.

I'm not one to assume this is a conspiracy. I just think the officials ****ed up. For the life of me I can't figure out why they didn't review that. I also thought it was illegal to push a ball carrier on 4th down.

It's funny too, I guess, how one player and one play "****s' us... In a game with 48 points scored (at that point) it's all on that one play. We all know it could have won the game, but so too could have any play on that drive that didn't result in a TD.

So i get you point, and I get the relative percentages, but it's pretty unfair to put it on one guy if "you're being fair."

As for the officials, let everybody complain all they want because like the sun rising in the east, they are NEVER questioned by anybody but the fans who can't do a thing about them. Certainly "if" the league does anything to them, or they have what's reported/claimed to be some form of review/peer-review process, it's such a tightly held secret that not even the NSA can break into it and figure it out. All the teams have ever seen are the weekly "too late" apology letters that mean nothing after the fact. So let us bitch, it's not hurting your official buddies, they just laugh and keep doing whatever they damn well please/are told to do.

Are people really being critical of Andy Reid in this game?

JFC, he played virtually all back-ups against a San Diego team that needed to win to make the playoffs and almost won.

If you want to blame someone blame weak ass Succup.

He is a gutless piece of shit until proven otherwise.

If he bothers you, why not put him on ignore? I won't because I like the opposing views (I only put power-hungry, cum-twat, assholes on ignore because, well, they're power-hungry, cum-twat assholes who suck dirty cum-dripping monkey balls!!), and opposing views is what makes a board great.

That's disingenuous at best. Players and coaches rarely question refs publicly because they're fined. The way they can question/point out ref failings is by sending in particular calls to the league offices, and that happens all the damn time. There was an article a few weeks ago (I wish I could remember where it was published) but it said that refs were receiving downgrades much more frequently this year because of all the terrible officiating. I think it was Steratore who was quoted as saying "there goes the Super Bowl" because he got 2 in one game. Leavy should get about 20 and an aids blanket, because he's actually changed the outcome of the AFC playoffs this year

I think Chase and Andy need to split snaps in practice. If we get into a situation where we need a QB who has to throw accurate passes, I think Chase might need to be called into service. I'm still wondering if he would have done even better (or worse) behind the #1s...

No doubt. We've seen countless examples of that.

Per Nick Jacobs

Sean Smith has a knee sprain. James Michael Johnson has an ankle sprain.

Pittsburgh should have signed Tebow to a contract prior to this week.

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I'm critical of the lack of PA on first down in the 2nd half. However, I have no knowledge of what their scouting report detailed, how much they stuck to it or not, and haven't re-watched the game.

Other than that, this was a fine game. You were able to rest starters, get reps for others, and despite the loss build confidence in knowing your backups essentially played a playoff game in OT with a team that beat Denver on the road.

Agreed. You can't possibly criticize Andy today. If it wasn't for our choking kicker, this was a win (not to even mention the reffing in OT).

screw the final score, that was a hellufa game, from the scrubs !!!!

LOL, I've heard the same thing, but it amounts to getting to question your sentence after you get out of jail and have served the full sentence. And I'm actually not convinced that the Chiefs "do" that.

And I'm not convinced "questioning a ref" means a fine. From podium, directly saying it was a bad call, might, but creaming at an official during the game seems to be as legal as the offensive line holding. Watch Manning, Brady, Rivers, and any number of "5-Hour-Energy" head coaches, and you'll see they may not get "that" call, but the officials sure know they've ****ed up. I rarely see that out of the Chiefs, and I don't think I've seen Andy light into an official on the sideline. A gentle discussion doesn't count.

And if all their bad calls ever get them is a non-trip to the playoffs/super bowl, so what?

But I'd love for you to find the link (and I do belive you), and I hope it has a link to the "running score" each crew/official has on him. If not, what does it really matter. It's got to be public, at least somewhat as public as the officials reviews of the players we suffer each week, to be worth a shit. If it's private, it's junk!

Well I'll give And y credit for having the backups ready to fight. They played well. But I thought the play calling was too bland in the second half. How many times we seen this team run on first down just about every time in the second half? Thwy were too predictable on offense in the second half.

Absolutely... i don't normally believe in moral victories, but this was definitely one.

It didn't have a running count sadly. It was more of a discussion about the closed door meetings officials have to do for their weekly reviews.

anyone have a GIF of the fumble?

I was on the way home and missed it.

And living in San Diego - I'm actually getting crap from these half-tards!

Seriously? You beat a practice-squad team in OT.....in a do or die situation....in your own house! (and apparently needed a little help from the refs too!)

That's such a bullshit call.

Holy shit what an obvious strip.

Yes, if ****ing Succop hits the ****ing FG, we win.

But that's still a BULLSHIT call in OT.

The Chargers 30 yard line = the goal line. He broke the plane.

How was it forward progress. Weddle was still going forward

Yeah, I think they take the input "provided" by whomever, LOL at it, put them in an NSA approved double-cross-cut shredder, then get back to their league-provided Starbucks coffee and designer donuts while surfing the many boards and LOLing at all the criticism they get from people who can't do a ****ing thing about it. All the while waiting for a meeting with some guy named "Tom" (who oddly sounds like Roger) who gives them the latest "situation" that might help the NFL's profits if certain situations. But they end the call like they always do by says, "Thanks Tom, but we already knew that, we read the papers and know the entertainment business through-and-through."

I really shouldn't be pissed at that game. But I am.

It seems that weddles helmet came off resulting in immediate play stoppage. This was just prior to the strip. I dont understand how they can determine exactly where he was when his helmet came off. If you see where they spotted the ball, how was there no measurement? It seemed like it was right at the marker

ball came out before the helmet came off

Had we been blown-out, as expected, I'd have been fine with it. But once we were contending, then the new spelling for "fate" (NFL Officials) came into play, then I became concerned.

You may be right, but I really didnt think so

That's bull shit that's a clear fumble still moving forward and loses the ball
if this game was played in KC they review that play.

Such a **** up. Just imagine what an uproar there would be if it was a game between big market teams.

I wish they had shown more camera angles during the game. I think there was a lot more to be seen

Watch #97 on the Chargers. He knows 100% it was a fumble

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I'll never understand why there are "technicalities" that prevent a play from being reviewed.

I would think the most important thing would be getting the call right, but that's just me. It was pretty ****ing clear that forward progress was not stopped before the ball came out.

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Posted this in another thread.

Why is everyone so butthurt? All NFL teams lose games like you guys did today. You guys should be proud as **** of your 2nd team. You guys are deep.

I'm sure we'll get a nice letter from the league office.

No one gives a shit about the loss. The Chiefs were locked into the 5th seed win or lose.

This is about a team that doesn't belong in the playoffs being in the playoffs due to an obviously blown call.

No ****ing shit.
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Why was it blown? Wasn't it dead when his helmet came off?

He didnt even have the ball when his helmet came off.

The play was ruled dead because of some phantom forward progress call when no whistle was ever blown.

Bummer.

I'm guessing this whole deal is payback for the calls Pitt got in the SB against Seattle.

So why wouldn't they at least review where the ball was when the helmet came off?

I'm irritated that the Chiefs kicker can't make a 41 yarder in a no pressure game to win. Also the NFL refs just keep ****ing up...dude fumbled and shouldve been a defensive td or possession at minimum.

Steelers fans have to be sick lol

the strip came before that........and the forward progress that was made thereafter gave the bolts the first down.

By your logic, the ball should have been spotted a yard to two yard back - and a measurement should have taken place.

Because the "call" was that forward progress was stopped when it clearly wasn't and you can't review forward progress for w/e dumbass reason. There was never an issue of his helmet coming off.

The illegal overloading on the succop kick
The illegal contact that should have been DPI
The circus fake punt

WWNFL

I don't have any logic. I haven't seen a clear replay of the play, that gif above I can't tell when the ball comes out vs the helmet coming off and I was at a bar so I wasn't close enough to a tv to see it well enough.

The referee made zero mention of this in his explanation on the field. Ruling was "the SD player reached the line of gain, first down". No mention whatsoever of progress stopped. Ass covering.

Well, look no further than what wuld happen if the WWE had unlimited reviews and you'll have your answer. While the WWFL isn't as overt about "the fix" as the WWE, there's no doubt that the illusion of "too many reviews would extend the game too long" was put to rest years ago by college football and simply isn't true.

Along with what I think you're alluding to, I'm really willing to blow it up and allow for teams to get five or six reviews per half, and let them review almost anything. Holds, push-offs, pick plays, pre-snap movement, almost anything thing they feel was "missed' on the previous play. And because officials are allowed to "miss" so much because of the "speed of the game" (which may or may not be true - they sure don't miss "bam-bam" DPI calls!!), I say let them get helped by unlimited booth reviews and six reviews per half, per team, to help them - because of the speed of the game.

I know it would reduce scoring, but I'm a football purist and I'm fine with games that end 14-13..

**** you San Diego. The answer is and always will be **** You San Diego.

Your team won, that's all that should matter to you. Congrats to you and yours...

These zebras can all **** themselves

Agreed.

I'm very happy. Clearly there were some blatantly missed calls, but you guys are only seeing the bad calls against you. On the play before the fake punt, Gates was destroyed before the ball got to him and it should have been PI and the fake punt would have never happened.

The FG penalty was big though, I admit it. Sorry you guys lost, but things bounced our way today after not bouncing our way all season. I'm not apologizing for the Chargers making the playoffs.

No need to apologize for your team making the playoffs or the officiating, there are plenty of "those kinds" floating around the universe, starting with the league's front office.

Despite all the BS calls I am actually ok with all of this. I am going to the Chiefs/Indy and the Cincy/Charger game.

After we beat Indy, if the Chargers can pull off a big win then we will travel to NE and the Chargers can have a rematch with Denver. I don't like the Chargers at all, but I honestly think they have a one of the best chances of beating the Broncos at home and if they should get there then I will be cheering for them to win.

Have fun man. I would love an SD@KC AFCCG. I would say the odds are about as much as the Chargers making the playoffs, so it could happen.

And there it is, straight from the man who used to run that show.

I would love to see the Chiefs and Chargers go on a playoff run right to the AFC Championship game. That means our 1st team players would be hosting you again at Arrowhead.

The Chargers were nearly as big a joke in this game as the refs were. Their demise will come soon enough.

You were playing an entire team of backups. If every single call went against you you still should have blown us out by 30.

Ok we ****ing didn't blow you out. The game is over. We won and are the 6 seed and you are the 5 seed. ****, get over it.

I'm glad you guys won, because I think you have a better chance at beating Denver. Hopefully the Chargers will if they can get past Cincy.

True.... can't say I'm proud of the way we won, but at least we're in the playoffs.