Do Kuligowski and Odom not get along? I know that Kul was passed over DC job last year and was flirting with Illinois. It seems like Odom could just promote Kul to DC and keep him there?

My problem with it is the fact that he clearly wasn't the guy we targeted, or this would have been done a long time ago. Hell, we could be preparing for a bowl game and getting extra practice time in with him as coach.

Find the guy you want and get him. I don't care if it's $8,000,000 a year. Get your guy. We've got an extra $20,000,000 a year compared to just 5 years ago. What are we saving it for? Our coaches have a combined 12 career wins in basketball and football as D-1 head coaches. I have no problem with Odom. I have a serious problem with the road we took to get here, though.

At least they aren't pulling a LSU and talking about it. Freaking LSU AD admitted that they made decision to keep Les Miles during halftime of the LSU/A&M game. WTF? Why would you go public with that? What's next, that they go public with the reason they kept Miles is that Jimbo Fisher turned them down?

I mean, you're probably right that Odom wasn't their first choice, but at least they're leaving that up to inference.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As others have reported, I&#39;m told safeties coach Ryan Walters and QBs coach Andy Hill only coaches expected to return on Odom&#39;s staff.</p>&mdash; Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dave_Matter/status/672819675533844480">December 4, 2015</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Also, Mizzou offensive line coach A.J. Ricker confirms that he won&#39;t be back either.</p>&mdash; Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dave_Matter/status/672819934531948546">December 4, 2015</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Finding the guy you want and getting him takes due diligence. It, literally, takes time to go out and talk to potential candidates. Some will say no thanks and others will indicate interest. Odom was likely near the top of the list, but I assume they wanted to be sure.

Herman was the only guy higher on the list, according to what I was told. Herman gave an official no yesterday, and they moved to Odom.

All the other stuff was just due diligence/obfusucation.

Odom press conference on 810 now.

I already like Odom.

Love the player reaction to him walking in the room. And I hope, HOPE Duncan is right saying Huepel is the new offensive coordinator.

I think I mentioned this earlier, but for all the praise given to Kuligowski, losing Ricker and Henson alone will more than make up for his absence.

Yes, I may walk with a limp for a while after having a massive tumor resection in my lower leg. I'll take the limp.

This is the first thing that Odom and Rhodes have to put the clamps on. These Mizzou players running their mouths off on twitter looks really bad, and needs to stop right now.

Cornell Ford is returning. Andy Hill can come back if he doesn't want the Montana St. job.

Yeah.

The best way to get kids to come play for you is to be a red-ass like Kim Anderson and treat them like elementary schoolers.

That's a welcomed surprised, IMO.

Ford is a nice keep; seems that he's always been a solid recruiter and despite a really disappointing season from Kenya Dennis, I think Ford has generally done very good work with the CBs.

I suspect we'll lose Hill. We aren't going to make him the OC and I don't imagine he's done anything this year to improve his stock. I don't think the offense's failings have been his fault, but being the QB coach attached to this trainwreck can't be good for your stock.

Unless he thinks Lock can really explode next year and elevate him to the next tier of coaching candidates (unlikely given his lack of coordinator experience), this is probably the best he'll do. I think he'd be wise to take it.

Comparing that to Kim Andersons meaningless punishments is laughable, not even close to the same thing. Players fighting with the fans on twitter will really help recruiting. Not.

Yes it is.

Being heavy handed to kids for speaking on social media is going to be viewed in the same light as suspending them for various indiscretions.

It's going to make him look like a red ass and it's going to hurt like hell when he's trying to get guys to play here. A coach can do that after he's established himself, but when you're trying to prove you can win at this level, you're not going to get anyone to come play for you if you are also playing the role of the draconian buzzkill that won't let his players (college kids) do what every other college kid in the country is doing..

So slouching in your chair and dress code is the same as players berating fans/vice versa?

When you're talking to 18 yr olds? Yeah.

Teenagers don't let you **** around with their social media. Now the blowback wouldn't be quite as bad, but it also wouldn't need to be given the level of recruiting that Mizzou needs to sustain.

It would absolutely have a chilling effect if it were to be done at all publicly. Now, if they quietly emphasize with position coaches that "hey, get your boys to chill a little bit" and let the position coaches handle it, that would probably work pretty well.

But Odom's in a new world here; he really does need to tread lightly, IMO.

Trying to censor kids sounds like a hella dumb idea.

Odom got the job Tuesday night. They interviewed his wife and kids on KRCG, kids said they had to stay home from school to avoid letting it leak.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/DwxqKtQaRpg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I made the mistake of listening to Kietzman and Clinkscale talk about the Odom hire today. Good Christ, why do I do that to myself?

They are Big 12 homers, they want MU out of the Kansas City market in the worst way.

Per Gabe, Hill is staying

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Missouri assistant coach Andy Hill confirms that he is staying at Mizzou on the staff</p>&mdash; Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dave_Matter/status/672933964420657152">December 5, 2015</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So we've retained our KC and St. Louis recruiters, which is good to know

I swear when I turned it on I heard KK say "If Odom is a good coach he'll have success at Mizzou, but if not - Ohh boy it could go south quick." (or something very close to that)

Really? Great analysis there all-star broadcaster.

The guy is a Mizzou troll and shouldn't be taken seriously by Mizzou fans for 1 second. As soon as someone said yesterday that he was "expecting Herman" it became obvious he was doing what he always does. He always says he "expects" MU to do the best possible thing so he can roast us when we don't. He's done it forever and Saul nailed it yesterday when he said that.

****ing beaker trash Fescoe is less of a Mizzou troll these days than KK.

Like pain?

Anything on Coach Kul?

You know who else prohibited his players from using Twitter?

Turner Gill.

First thing I thought of as well. Packer is an idiot beaker troll. Nothing more, nothing less.

Boehm is no longer a Mizzou player. What do you expect them to do to stop him from expressing his opinion?

About 1/3 right....better facilities. Clemson has owned South Carolina in the recruiting wars over the last 5 years and it has showed in the last couple of seasons.

Here in Columbia the Gamecock faithful are angry and restless over not already having a coach. Many believe that SC is losing its luster.

No.....and it seems that MU probably wanted to look like they were going thru a process to make sure that they don't hear crap later for not doing a real search and pre-ordaining Odom the choice.

Seriously....you need meds.

This....

Save for the fact that we probably would have heard from the PC crowd that they didn't do a full search and give other candidates the opportunity to be interviewed.

SC has more money for the program than Arizona. As for recruiting, a lot of that came down to Spurdog not giving a shut on the recruiting trail. When he gave a shit, they landed talent like Clowney.

Having Arizona State and several California schools not far away must suck in the recruiting process. I'd probably chose a California school or party U (ASU) over them.

The bif problem with them right now is the fact that they've got an AD that's totally ****ing clueless. I think they promoted a baseball or softball coach?

They had two months to form a list, so this hire should have been completed within a week. Being nearly the first team with an opening and will be the last team to fill it, at this rate, shows how incompetent they are.

Having a lot of money won't always help, and the difference in $$'s between Clemson and SC isn't that much.

As for recruiting.....you are right, Spurrier spent little to no time recruiting, save for the big recruits like Clowney, Lattimore, and Jeffreys. In fact I'm not sure how they got Pharoah Cooper to come there. And in doing so he has pretty much crippled the Gamecocks...

If you listen to the locals, at the beginning of the process that SC was the #2 opening in the nation in regards to the Head Coach search. They put themselves ahead of everyone but USC-West. Some believe the University just believed that after USC chose their coach whomever was next in line would immediately line up to come to SC.

Now....is seems many of the faithful believe that Muschamp will be the inevitable candidate.

And yes....they promoted their old Baseball coach to AD....Ray Tanner.

I didn't see where anyone answered your question. For whatever it's worth, I've read on PowerMizzou that at first the relationship was contentious. Kul has been with Pinkel for 20+ years and here's this guy, many years his junior, who is now his boss. I think they figured out how to work with each other but I wouldn't say they didn't "get along." It also seems like he's maybe immature. For example, when the search was ongoing he removed any references of Mizzou from his Twitter account, was a bit of a diva, etc. Again, this is just what I read from people who seem to know what they are talking about. It seems like he was upset he was never promoted, and probably feels like this is a good time to move on.

The feeling is he could be a DC for a struggling small school or lat move into the same position. My personal thoughts are our success can be attributed to scouting, and development from Ivey. For all I know, Kul could be the DLman whisperer.

I'm not sure who you are talking about in the middle of this post. Kul or Odom?

Sorry. I was mostly talking about Kul. I only referenced Odom as his much younger boss.

The comparison is SC and Arizona, where Rod is currently at. South cack is probably a tad under Clemson for cash, but is certainly more flush than Zona.

Makes a big difference when it comes down to getting good assistants.

I also think he's about reached the ceiling at Arizona.

Good luck with hiring your defensive coordinator, who was a high school coach 7 years ago. I'm sure it had nothing to do with nobody else wanting the job. Good luck slavers.

Gonna grade that troll 0.5/10.

Damn it. I was going for at least a 4 out of 10.

Get your facts straight first. That's step 1.

I bet Alex Gordon hates Missouri. Almost as much as I do.

Plus, facts get in the way of trolling.

And you thought I was bad.

Gotta mention Orange Bowl somewhere in there. Better luck next time, young Paladin.

Beaty butthurt.

Winless A @M receiver coaches?

Seriously..... suck a cock.

Totally. /Hugh Freeze, girl's basketball coach from 1992-2004.

Theme for next thread: At least we didn't hire Muschamp

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mizzou strength coach/assistant AD Pat Ivey tells me he&#39;s staying on staff under Barry Odom.</p>&mdash; Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dave_Matter/status/673509103319187456">December 6, 2015</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good news. At least for those who were of the train of thought that Ivey was similarly as important as Coach Kul in our efforts to coach/train up 2 and 3 star kids.

Great news. Dr Ivey is awesome.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rock Bridge HS &amp; Arkansas commit Hayden Johnson says he got an offer from Missouri ... as a fullback. He&#39;s sticking with Ark commitment</p>&mdash; Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dave_Matter/status/673706558849597440">December 7, 2015</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Offer to Johnson is revealing. Mizzou planning some offensive changes scheme/personnel under Odom.</p>&mdash; Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dave_Matter/status/673706726277775360">December 7, 2015</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You're going to want to watch this.

http://www.scout.com/nfl/rams/story/...on-meets-media

How'd Golden and 'Spoon get to know each other? Golden was a 2010 commit and was a HS SR in the spring of 2010 when Spoon graduated. It seems odd that they'd have gotten that close through what would have likely been little more than a couple of campus visits by a relatively unheralded recruit. I guess Pinkel put him in touch with Spoon after the issues that sent him to community college?

Pinkel really has built a neat environment at Mizzou; the 'Mizzou Made' thing just caught on so well and it seems like the players really take it to heart.

Heupel to Mizzou appears imminent.

And 'Bama's LB coach is evidently a strong candidate for the DC gig.

The respect for Odom appears real - the guy's well on his way to assembling an exciting young staff.

Those would be 2 promising hires, but I think Bama's LB coach is going to Georgia.

Not bad for their last resort after every sitting coach they approached about the job turned them down / KK

It used to really annoy me in those few times I would listen to Keitzman where he would rail against Mizzou. He cannot STAND that they left his Wildcats behind. Now whenever I hear his incessant whining about anything Mizzou related, I am just full

http://i.imgur.com/8FxEa.gif

Marvin terry commits to Mizzou!

New staff is showing a lot of energy on the recruiting trail and working hard. Could be a sign of things to come under Odom...

Also wonder if the reason Heupel is yet to be announced is that Cumbie is still in play. UT hired its OC today.

Cumbie turned UT down, but program instability is high there. Offer him 800k-1 million at Mizzou and he might jump. No clue what he makes at TCU.

Would fit this staff (young, bright, hungry) very well. Until he works his way up to a HC job somewhere in Texas.

I've heard talk of Yost possibly returning.

Tre'vour Simms commits to Mizzou.

Guess Odom has been telling recruits that they will be running a base 3-4 D

Not crazy about it as a long term scheme, but we will see. Think they'll have to continue to run a hybrid for at least a few more years while they recruit for the 34. DE depth looks pretty thin to me at that spot, and DT depth looks even thinner (at least for guys built to occupy those roles).

Other than Josh Augusta, I don't know that Mizzou currently has a DT who is someone I'd trust to anchor the middle against double teams every play, especially against SEC run games.

Also don't think those great, MizzouMade DEs (at this point, Harris and Brady) are really built to play a true 34 OLB. Harris looked awkward/inadequate in pass coverage vs. BYU.

Odom's staff is going to have to recruit differently/better to make it work.

Not sure how anyone could be excited about the possibility of Heupel

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We can now confirm that Josh Heupel has agreed to become Missouri’s new offensive coordinator <a href="https://t.co/sNnVtycOD5">https://t.co/sNnVtycOD5</a></p>&mdash; FootballScoop Staff (@FootballScoop) <a href="https://twitter.com/FootballScoop/status/677490239301017600">December 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good news.

OC is already a significant upgrade from last year. Can't complain about that.

Odom is off to a strong start.

Huge news...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Missouri OL coach A.J. Ricker expected to accept same position w/ new Illinois coach Bill Cubit per source. <a href="https://t.co/O6k154Kzsb">https://t.co/O6k154Kzsb</a></p>&mdash; Thayer Evans (@ThayerEvansSI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ThayerEvansSI/status/677495073978757120">December 17, 2015</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

How in the world does someone see Ricker's body of work and decide that they want to pay him to do the same for their team?

So Kyler Murray's family was evidently smitten with OU during their recruitment and I believe that Heupel would've been instrumental in that recruiting process.

Think that would even get us in the door with Murray? Seems like an incredible long shot but it doesn't hurt to get an audience with the guy. Lock might develop into a nice player some day, but Murray could be transformative in the same way that Daniel was.

I would think that his release (if/when it happens) won't allow him to go to another SEC school. Kyle Allen's evidently did.

I also wouldn't be surprised if strength of the baseball team plays a pretty large factor in which school he attends. This whole A&M shakeup is bizarre. Yesterday, I half expected Sumlin to be fired by the end of the day. Now it's gone silent and everything seems "normal." Maybe it's just the calm before the storm, though.