Ah, ok.

I didn't think I'd said that, but who knows.

Agreed.

This.

Missed it the first time, thanks Sauto for bumping it.

I was gonna try earlier this year but I've got too many golf trips planned already, lol.

Medinah next month, Oakmont, vegas and possibly a surprise trip that I'm not gonna jinx by talking about.

Jesus Tapdancing Christ.

How many meth mouths are you seeing a day?

I was willing to come down and play Rivercut, but I don't want you to slum it.

Lol, my fair share.

And I'm actualky at highland springs and it's absolutely an open invite. Whenever you wanna come down.

Yeah, I kinda figured you we're at HS.

My best friend was there until he moved to KC, now he's at Hallbrook.

Never got the chance to come down in the year+ he was in SpringVegas.

How many strokes you giving?

(phrasing)

FTR, I love Berry and I respect his decision even though I'm disappointed. I don't think he's a villain, but he's also not the hero he's made out to be.

Lol. Straight up man.

I don't believe the cancer recovery has anything to do with missing training camp, unless he's no longer in remission.

I also don't believe that this is "just part of the business". His holdout is just a temper tantrum, as it hurts the team and himself and he has nothing to gain by not working.

It should also be noted that neither he or is agent have been in touch with the Chiefs.

If you (Berry) aren't there you aren't the leader of shit. Be nice if someone else took that role. Lead from the front.

This team doesn't need Berry's 'leadership' as bad as they need his on field production.

Houston, DJ, Tamba, Poe, Peters... All can take the leadership torch and run with it as they please. Berry just needs to be there and play at his best.

Who made him out to be a hero? ROFL

He's a good player who a lot of players like and look up to and despite what you say, is a good leader. He'll sign in a week or two. Unbunch your panties.

Rewatching first game now. Actually, Ford had a perfectly fine first series. They were gashing the middle and one time ran at Zombo. Never ran at Ford.

Ford got pressure once - incompletion.

Pulled back into coverage once instead of pursuing Russell - that was the interception in the endzone.

Will update with second series next.

REMINDER: I have been one of the guys bashing Ford. Not as bad as I remembered, thus far.

Not sure how much mention there has been of this on here, but FWIW Justin March seems to have stepped into the starting role next to DJ this week.

This guy at it again.

https://instagram.com/p/BJJOdn5gG3w/

Yeah think him and Wilson been switching off but think he gonna start this Saturday.

So much vitroil for a guy who's been nothing but a class act his entire time as a Chief.

Second series:

1st & 10, Dee Ford shed his blocker, got into the backfield, but he was too far inside and Christine Micheal just ran RIGHT around him to the edge. Good shedding, bad containment.

2nd & 2: splits a double team to get the stuff with DJ taking out the ankles. His best play by far.

3rd & 2: They ran up the middle, Ford not involved.

4th & 1: - FB up the middle, Ford grabs him, pulling him backwards into the backfield, but it's too late. Forward progress gives him the 1st down. Ford came from the side/behind. Not in on initial tackle.

1st & 10: Shotgun, Ford goes in coverage on RB, pass thrown to other side of the field.

2nd & 5: Ford stood up by RT. Zombo gets into the backfield, wraps up QB on a keep for 2 yard loss. Ford stops fighting. OOOPS! Zombo ****s up, R\QB breaks tackle, runs for 1st down. THIS IS DEE FORD'S WORST PLAY, BECAUSE HE GAVE UP WHEN ZOMBO HAD THE TACKLE. BUT IT IS BY FAR A WORSE PLAY FOR ZOMBO.

1st & 10: Ford pins his ears back. Bull rush. Drives the RT back into Boykin, who overthrows the endzone. Okay, that was impressive and WAY better than I gave him credit for. Won on strength. Also, I thought Peters was beat on this play. ironically, a good throw would have been ANOTHER endzone interception. Peters is so ****ing good.

2nd & 10: Dee Ford gets into backfield unimpeded. Christine Michael is already gone, running DIRECTLY AT ZOMBO for another big gain. I'm noticing a pattern, here... Zombo got beat at the POA and pushed seven yards out of the play. Terrible.

3rd & 1: Ford bites HARD on the PA fake. It was the simplest Madden play call ever. Run left. Then, fake the exact same run play, bootleg back around. Ford bit on it. Holding call saved a big gain.

3rd & 11: Ford is gone. DJ Alexander on a blitz. Pressure, incomplete. Chris Jones slaps the entire seattle offense with his huge dong.

4th & 11: Punt.

Damn this thread went stupid fast.

Anyone thinking Berry was going to sign before they went back to KC hasn't paid any attention to football that last 10 years. He didn't get a long term deal. This is how it ALWAYS goes.

Holy shit people have gone nuts.

No, it isn't "how it always goes".

Nine out of ten Franchised players in 2016 were at camp Day One.

As usual, you're ill-informed.

News is hard to see on thaVirus 19 RCA big screen

Nobody is saying he's sitting out the year, correct?

In probably 72 hours the last 150 posts will an exercise in futility.

Berry is one of probably a handful of guys who missing camp is going to have minimal negative impact, especially at low safety.

From a personal POV, I couldn't care less when Berry arrives. I've said he's been way overrated by the fan base since 2013, so no biggie.

Who knows if he'll sit out the year? I highly doubt it but no one knows the thinking because his agent and Berry have been silent.

If he wants his $10.8 million, he'll show up before Game 1.

Berry will be here, likely right after camp breaks if I had to say....

and when he is back, the team will be better for it. It's that simple. Business aside, the 2016 Chiefs are better off with him, and the future past that is very much unclear as far as him being here or not.

Dane talking about Berry sitting out the season LMAO

What a ****ing dumbass.

Your reading comprehension is 0.00%.

No wonder you live in a shit hole, have a 19" TV while relegated to dating women that previously had kids with other men.

You're quite the prize.

you are an embarrassing dumbass

there's a whole list of people in this thread that I'm going to assume have temporarily lost their minds, because saying some of this shit about a cancer survivor and meaning it makes you a shitty ****ing person....

It's true.

Please explain how a cancer survivor, who is apparently unhappy that he didn't receive the largest contract in NFL history at his position, some how gets a pass for not attending Training Camp, despite the fact he'll be the highest paid safety in the NFL in 2016.

Thanks in advance.

No, you're a ****ing idiot that lacks reading comprehension and critical thinking.

Just because Eric Berry had cancer doesn't mean he's free of any criticism. I already said I love Berry, and appreciate everything he's done. I just don't see this ultimate leader bullshit.

Like I said, what makes Berry more of a leader than Jamaal Charles?

I'm not even saying he's not a leader, all I'm really saying is he's overrated in the department, and not the leader that Hali, Charles, and Maclin are.

Keep pretending I hate Berry though because I don't see him as a ****ing angel because he got cancer. The cancer is absolutely irrelevant in this conversation, unless you want to bring up how the organization stood by him and didn't make the "business decision" and he never even acknowledged or showed any kind of appreciation publicly.

Yeah he wasn't near as bad as CP made it sound.

you should allow him to **** your wife, I mean.. he's a cancer survivor and all

How could anyone know what kind of leader he is unless you've been on the field or in the locker room with the guy?

Who? Ford?

Because true leadership doesn't end on the field or in the locker room. It extends beyond that when you're supposed to be THE leader.

I'm not knocking him in that aspect. I'm knocking how he's handled this situation, and how it's all about the money, and always has been.

I clearly said he's one of the leaders on the team, but just ignore that I guess.

I'm just done saying he's THE leader. That honor goes to guys like Maclin, Charles, and Hali.

Gonna be a bloodbath.

LMAO

He ain't leading shit right now. He is at the house.

I love maclin, but he's a year away from taking the best free agent deal he could get from another team.

I think there's alot of leaders here. That's what makes them such a good team. Lotta leadership

Would you not agree that the narrative is that Berry is the leader of the team though?

https://youtu.be/5DU54JrABiE






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And while Maclin hosted Wilson and Conley at his home for six weeks in a effort to help guys improve, Berry distanced himself from the Chiefs.

#Leader.

I would consider houston to be moreso on the defense, but who knows.

So he hasn't had any contact with any of the other chief players?

If he has, it hasn't been reported, at least as far as I know.

He certainly didn't work out with them.

Yeah, as tight knit as this group is I find it pretty hard to beleive he hasn't had any contact with any chief players.

Either way, we don't know so there's no reason to say one way or the other.

That's fair, but regardless, out of everybody on the team there's not a player who's name is attached to the word leader on the team. It's only fair to question that to an extent in this situation. I mean, the guy is using the franchise tag situation to try to get even more than a fair market deal. What kind of message does that send coming from the supposed ultimate leader and team player?

To the other players? I dunno, I can't imagine they care too much.

I think we're reading a little to much into this to be quite honest

You're speculating.

No reporter has written about or tweeted that Berry has had any interaction with Chiefs players.

If these guys are so tight and "love" EB, why hasn't anyone said "oh yeah, EB's cool. He good."?

No I absolutely don't think it will effect how players view him. I just mean to the fans that have supported him and the organization that stood by him and did the right thing. I'm pretty sure Dorsey would have some interesting things to say about this situation. I'd love to be a fly on the wall.

And you're speculating that he hasn't.

Iirc dj has said something of the sorts, but I'm not sure and frankly, don't care enough to look it up.

Either way, I'm fine

Other than Houston, who would Berry talk to? Ron Parker?

Not that I don't think he's talked to anybody, just trying to guess.

I'm refuting your claim.

You can't prove a negative.

Ok?

LMAO

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...e88612427.html

Well, here's an article that was written by paylor when berry was putting on a camp for kids in kc, in which multiple players are quoted on his leadership, he talks about how he's talked with houston over this whole ordeal and talks about how he wants to stay a chief etc.

:)

I'm blocked. Over my "usage".

Interviewed while at a free youth camp held at a KC high school. I thought he had disdain for KC and their fans since he doesn't tweet or Instagram his appreciation everyday?

I'm not trying to be a dick, but how old are you?

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Fixed.

Few hours later and I see Dane's still a ****ing idiot.

Go **** yourself.

I know it sounds silly. I'm not saying he needs to do those things. That is beyond my point entirely. I was just asking if he ever really embraced being a Chief and the face of the team. It's a fair question for any star that is supposed to be the leader of the team. Looking back I kind of get the feeling that he never saw KC as home, and was always going to go to the highest bidder. Is that not exactly what he's doing now?

Is it not fair to expect the guy this team drafted and made the highest paid safety from day one to not be completely unreasonable with his second contract when he never really lived up to the first? I feel like some of you are missing the facts. He's been a dick about this. Plain and simple. When push came to shove the organization didn't make the "business decision". Why shouldn't we expect the family mentality to be reciprocal, or even appreciated/acknowledged?

Eric Berry clearly doesn't give a **** about the Chiefs. Guys like Charles and Hali do. It's dissapponting, but I still love him and I hope he gives us his best year yet before he goes elsewhere to get paid. My perception of him has quickly changed over this offseason though, and it's honestly not due to bias. I'm genuinely shocked at how he's handled things.

Just put your browser on invisible/private/incognito mode.

Yup. This board is agenda driven.

:deevee:

You need to get over yourself.

Thanks, man!

It doesn't happen on my PC, only on my iPad.

Flirting with being ignored.

If you are the gm what strategy do you take if you have too many good lineman?

I agree! Players applaud Berry because they know not only its a business but they would set out as well in the meantime as less opportunity to get hurt and miss some work. Who wouldn't like missing some additional work?:clap::shrug:

How do you think the guy signing the 10.8 feels?

How millionaires feel? About not getting a few more million?

Did the Chiefs practice today, or did they shut down camp because Berry isn't there?

Holy hell. I laughed out loud[emoji23]


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Is that T'amu guy still on the roster ? Haven't heard a word about him. I thought he may have been a good pick up.

He was cut with the Foles signing I believe.

He was cut and signed with the Bills

Good write up man. Rep. This is what I come to CP for. For guys like you that take the time to analyze something instead of arbitrarily saying he looks like shit. Having read that, I feel a little better about Ford, other than the play that he quit on. That one pisses me off. You play to the whistle for just that very reason. The play isn't over until they blow the whistle.