Top 4 teams? Don't lose if you want that distinction

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Totally messed up if they keep Florida State out of the playoffs just because their starting QB is out. You know we'd be pissed if we were in that exact situation. You cannot punish a team, because of an injury.

I think the playoffs should be

#1 Michigan
#2 Washington
#3 Florida State
#4 Alabama

I think Alabama gets in over Texas, even though they lost H2H, for a couple of reasons.

1. The win was so long ago. It was the 2nd game of the season and before the teams got to ramp up.

2. Bama has 11 straight wins now, including the SEC championship game.

3. Bama had a bit tougher overall schedule than Texas. Bama's opponents went 98-61 and Texas's opponents went 91-67. Bama also played 4 opponents ranked in the top 13, including the #1 team and went 3-1. Texas played 3 top 25 teams (#8, #12, #19) and went 2-1. The rankings are from the college football playoffs rankings and will obviously change and more than likely #19 OK State drops out of the top 25, so that puts Texas at just 2 games in the top 25 rankings at the end of the year.

This is how I think the rankings will go. This isn't what I would do. Quite frankly I don't know what I'd do.

Edit- Also, I think Bama gets in over Texas because they're not going to keep the SEC out of the college football playoffs. Theyve had these playoffs since the 2014-2015 season and the SEC has never not had a team in it.

Texas beat Bama. That doesn’t count?

You see, that didn't count. Alabama wasn't ready to play. It was so long ago.

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Florida State is the only team to hold Louisville to single digits scoring this year.

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You can't put Bama ahead of Texas

No SEC team should be in the playoffs after today. The PAC 12 was the best division in CFB this year. Winning the SEC Championship game doesn’t hold as much weight as it did a few years ago.

How is it messed up? The job of the committee is to pick the 4 best teams at this moment and FSU is very clearly not one of them.

What does being a conference champion have to do with who are the best 4 teams right now?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It’s just a real shame that we are going to have to debate whether Alabama or Texas should get a playoff spot.<br><br>If only they had played each other… but even if they had, the home team would have had a significant advantage so that’s not very fair.</p>&mdash; RedditCFB (@RedditCFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1731108261942759716?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They just held a top 15 team to 6 points and beat them by 2 scores.

And Alabama would be a 24 point favorite on them if they played tomorrow.

Well, it's on top of their prioritizing their selections of comparable teams. I'd argue they're not comparative as FSU is undefeated https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...d46db00fa6.jpg

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I said it's not what I would do, but what I think the selection committee will do. I know there talking points. I gave you the reasons for why they will say it doesn't count. You really think they're not gonna put in an SEC team?

Guess which criteria there is the most interesting one considering the present discussion. It isn't the top one.

You can't argue the last one, they went and beat a top 15 team by 2 scores with the third string QB.

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I actually watched the entire game, so you can't keep repeating this like it means anything. They looked like complete shit against a team that lost to Pitt and it was in question right until the very end.

Given the state of their offense, they'll get absolutely destroyed by any of these other teams if they get picked.

They're an undefeated team in a power 5 conference. The committee isn't and shouldn't come out and say "well we're not picking them because there QB is hurt even though they won the last 2 games he didn't play in and just beat a 10 win team. They didn't win by enough points."

If a team like Louisville (who lost to Pitt and got worked by a mediocre UK team last week) made the championship game, it's pretty clear that not all power 5 conferences are made equal.

The “unavailability of key player” will be used to keep FSU out.

1) Michigan
2) Washington
3) Texas
4) Alabama

5) FSU
6) Georgia

And Alabama will open as at least a touchdown favorite over Michigan in their CFP Semifinal Game

Not sure why your obsessed with the Pitt loss. As if good teams don't sometimes have shit games and lose. Louisville beat Notre Dame and NC State.

You're missing the key part

"The selection committee will select the teams using a process that distinguishes among otherwise comparable teams by considering:"

An undefeated power 5 team isn't comparable to a 1 loss power 5 team.

A team that lost to a 3-9 Pitt and lost to a 7-5 UK just last week made the ACC conference championship and we're just gonna pretend that the ACC is the same as the SEC?

Again, not all P5 conferences are made equal.

You're right, they're way worse than Bama. Georgia too for that matter.

I mean an undefeated Cincinnati in 2021 from the AAC made the CFP by winning at ND.

Did that make them a top 4 team in the country? I seem to recall an embarrassment in the SF game.

They lost 27-6.

The 5th team was ND.

It's an argument of best vs deserving.

They can say what they want it's about the 4 teams that got it done and FSU didn't lose a game and beat a top 15 team with a 3rd string qb who was terrible. The deserve to be in if not then why play the games?

So Michigan, Washington, and Florida State are in how do you decided between Alabama, Georgia, and Texas? I'd say Georgia who was number one all year because if you put Alabama in Texas has a legit argument.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">College Football Playoff semifinals are set:<br><br>1. Michigan vs. 4. Alabama <br><br>2. Washington vs. 3. Texas<br><br>Florida St. No. 5, Georgia No. 6<br><br>Orange Bowl likely matchup - ACC champion FSU vs. highest ranked SEC/Big Ten team, which is Georgia <br><br>NY6 games announced at 1:30 PM CT</p>&mdash; Dave Matter (@Dave_Matter) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dave_Matter/status/1731365815952474403?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LMAO The madlads did it.

I want Washington to win the whole thing but let's be honest it will probably be Bama

https://seminoles.com/news/2023/12/3...ate-university

"The consequences of giving in to a narrative of the moment are destructive, far reaching, and permanent. Not just for Florida State, but college football as a whole."

"The argument of whether a team is the 'most deserving OR best' is a false equivalence. It renders the season up to yesterday irrelevant and significantly damages the legitimacy of the College Football Playoff. The 2023 Florida State Seminoles are the epitome of a total TEAM. To eliminate them from a chance to compete for a national championship is an unwarranted injustice that shows complete disregard and disrespect for their performance and accomplishments. It is unforgiveable."

"The fact that this team has continued to close out victories in dominant fashion facing our current quarterback situation should have ENHANCED our case to get a playoff berth EARNED on the field. Instead, the committee decided to elevate themselves and 'make history' today by departing from what makes this sport great by excluding an undefeated Power 5 conference champion for the first time since the advent of the BCS/CFP era that began 25 years ago. This ridiculous decision is a departure from the competitive expectations that have stood the test of time in college football."
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"Wins matter. Losses matter. Those that compete in the arena know this. Those on the committee who also competed in the sport and should have known this have forgotten it. Today, they changed the way success is assessed in college football, from a tangible metric - winning on the field - to an intangible, subjective one. Evidently, predicting the future matters more."

"For many of us, today's decision by the committee has forever damaged the credibility of the institution that is the College Football Playoff. And, saddest of all, it was self-inflicted. They chose predictive competitiveness over proven performance; subjectivity over fact. They have become a committee of prognosticators. They have abandoned their responsibility by discarding their purpose – to evaluate performance on the field."

"Our players, coaches, and fans - as well as all those who love this sport - deserve better. The committee failed college football today."

Texas will win it all.

I think the Committee got it right.

I thought they might put Georgia in over Texas, but I’m glad they didn’t.

Should be some really good games.

Look at this guy. Nailed it DJ.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michigan reacts to Alabama being selected at No. 4. Wolverines and Crimson Tide in the CFP semi. <a href="https://t.co/V2mrgLQA3W">pic.twitter.com/V2mrgLQA3W</a></p>&mdash; Adam Rittenberg (@ESPNRittenberg) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNRittenberg/status/1731364733251444866?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They’re terrified. LMAO

Yeah, Alabama is one of the best four teams in the country if they’re drawing that reaction.

Would have been cool to have a Big 10 vs Pac 12 matchup in the Rose Bowl for the final year of the Pac 12. I get why they didn't but it sucks that Washington gets sent to New Orleans instead.

https://i.imgur.com/jvk8ZrO.gif

Lessons learned:

- Don't schedule hard games out of conference ... you won't be rewarded for it even if you win.

- If your star player is injured, quit your season immediately. It doesn't matter if you finish undefeated.

- Ugly wins matter if you're not in the SEC. They don't matter if you're in the SEC.

Bama is about to monkey stomp Michigan.

Are they scared that no one will watch the playoffs if an SEC team isn't in it?

**** off, Alabama. Going to make me root for Michigan now.

Yet the ACC had a winning record this year against the SEC!

Maximizing markets.

Washington brings the West Coast. Michigan brings fly over country. Alabama has the South and Texas is a national brand.

It is not about criteria.

That's pretty telling. They wanted an easy win against FSU.

The committee's job is to select the 4 best teams. They got at least pretty close.

And that's why I really don't care about the whole NIL thing. The NCAA was a joke before that and will always be a joke.

LMAO FSU NEEDS to beat Georgia.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">devastated. heartbroken. In so much disbelief rn, I wish my leg broke earlier in the season so y’all could see this team is much more than the quarterback. I thought results matter. 13-0 and this roster matches up across any team in those top 4 rankings. I am so sorry. Go Noles!</p>&mdash; Jordan Travis (@jordantrav13) <a href="https://twitter.com/jordantrav13/status/1731373727676256647?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bama is better than this version of FSU, but it's still a ****ing joke. Saban just whines like a ****ing child every year, and the bitches at the NCAA give him whatever he wants while ESPN backfills for him because of the financial relationship.

Who cares? FSU was garbage compared to Bama and that was clearly on display yesterday. The decision was an obvious one to make.

Georgia was probably one too. Maybe even OSU. But this was never gonna be perfect this year and they did fine under the circumstances.

The chaos moment will be if Florida State beats Georgia and then Alabama or Texas wins the playoff. That will be my rooting interest.

Bamawinslol

It's all so tiresome

ACC & FSU should sue. Bama didn't look good against South Florida (6-6), Arkansas (4-8), Auburn (6-6) and of course lost a game while FSU didn't.

It would make me happy if another tornado hit Tuscaloosa soon. F4 again for the 4th ranked team.

Yeah, but Bama lost to a team that beat Bama. That loss is like beating the 1984 49ers and 1985 Bears at once. It's better than any win.

Agreed

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LMAO Such a horrible precedent to set too. So Georgia would've gotten in if they broke Milroes leg on purpose yesterday?

At least it gives the SEC! SEC! SEC! pukes from CoMo to Gainesville a reason to slip on their conference pride sweatshirts this afternoon.

Makes me really mad they take into account that FSUs QB is hurt. Committee chairman even blatantly admits thats why FSU isnt in. Total crock of shit. You should EARN your seed. This shouldn't be a projection of what the best team is. Its a result of what your team has won and done.

Texas is in though?

It's why they left a one-loss Ohio State out in 2014 when they had their 3rd stringer...oh wait.

Bama beat LSU by targeting Daniels. Must be the winning play.

Still better than your Pride sweatshirt.

Doens't make it right... Alabama was lucky as **** to win last week against a very inferior Auburn team....

^^^

Has branded SEC merch and thinks he can make gay jokes

Define right. Alabama is one of the 4 best teams in the country right now and FSU isn't.

If the goal is selecting the best teams, they at least accomplished that goal in that respect.

They thought they were going down easy street

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This is recency bias. Bama struggled against inferior teams all season and the SEC on the whole was down this year. Bama also lost. FSU did not.

At least bama played powerhouse Chattanooga down the stretch to prove their worth

Stop it. Bama is a 3 touchdown favorite minimum against FSU without Travis. That team looks atrocious.

That reaction to the announcement pretty much said it all.

They were expecting a semifinal matchup with FSU and instead got Alabama.

Nah, people though TCU didn't belong last year...

By that reasoning. Florida state should be out. Their QB is out and that is recent.

Alabama should of been out just From sabans past comments from when roles were reversed.

TCU lost by 60 points in the final last year? LMAO

People are letting their hate for Alabama and the SEC cloud their judgement.

FSU isn't even top 5 without their QB. Not even really close. Why the **** do people want to give Michigan a bye and watch a ****ing blowout?

FSU defense is very good and Bama really hasn't blow out anyone but bottom feeders. Doubtful they would have such a large spread. Again this is recency bias clouding what your eyes have seen taking in the whole body of work.

Exactly. It's like people like watching blowouts. I just want to see the best teams play.

Doubtful they would have such a large spread? So maybe two touchdowns instead of three? LMAO

FSU is most likely gonna be matched up with Georgia, so go put your money where your mouth is and bet them to win after that double digit line comes out.

Honestly. They should wait til bowls are set then demand five times the money or not show up.