Toney Boloney

He has this off season to decide if he wants to play football or be a rapper.

on a side note, does every NFL player think they will be a rap star?

I don’t think Toney is really “hurt” I think the drops and such have him so mind ****ed they can’t play him

One hit and Lamar may make a "business decision " like he did last year...

Sitting out a playoff game when he could have played.....pathetic

I think this is a fair comparison. I think the CB are roughly equal, and Hamilton is better than Poyer/Hyde, though the Bills combo is probably as good as the Ravens.

I don’t expect the Chiefs O to just hot knife through them because the personnel isn’t as difficult to defend as that 20-21 Chiefs offense with Hill, but the Chiefs’ defense is also considerably better.

I think it’s smart. Put him on ice for the rest of this season regardless.

Let him have the offseason, bring him back because he’s cheap talent, and give him another shot next regular season when the stakes aren’t so high.

If we’re still dealing with these issues next year then you will know it’s time to move on.

Nah I think it’s just a move on thing

I disagree. We traded picks for him and he’s cost-controlled for another year. At worst he’s a cheap body with talent to fill out the bottom of the WR roster.

I think cutting him would be a terrible move, especially when you consider the fact that we will likely have to make some tough decisions on MVS, Moore and Hardman already. I don’t think we can realistically part with all four of them in one offseason.

Yeah I don't think Toney is on this team next year. Only a $2.5 million hit which really isn't much at all.

Time to put clown shoes on Ronald McDonald's defense

But it’s not tough decisions.

They’ll all be gone.

The guy can’t play an afc champ game because of “personal reasons”. You don’t think the other guys in the locker room will notice that?

It’s over.

Sky moore will absolutely be on the roster next year though

Why waste a roster spot on him? All he ever has is this "potential" that he's never really come close to realizing because of his mistakes on the field, because of injuries, and because of whatever he's going through right now whether it's the yips or really is injuries. Is rather have Watson at the bottom of the WR depth chart.

If it's a mental thing, he could be gone.

Remember the whispers that he struggling to learn the playbook and it was limiting his snap count earlier in the season?

If he has a mental block from getting on the field right now, at some point the amount of draft capital we invested on him isn't going to matter when we'd be literally better off having Skyy put up a 0/0. At some point, just declare victory on the trade for having Toney land us Super Bowl 57 and wish him the best on a mental reset on another team.

Might as well. Makes the most sense. He didn't get an offseason/preseason this year and it looks like it ****ed his season. Perhaps get him all the reps and preseason snaps you can. If he's not healthy come cut down day let him go.

BroTyler Huntley is a ProBowl QB.

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He's gonna be competing against guys like Remigio to make the roster in camp.

I think MVS, Toney and Hardman are all out after this season. You're gonna see 3 or so new WR's next year.

Hardman should be able to be resigned extremely cheap for a 1 or 2 year deal and cut at low impact later if necessary.

No reason to return Toney or MVasS's calls...

It's pretty hard to Skew Sacks, Takeaways, and lowest points allowed in the same season. Underestimate this defense if you'd like.

Toney is literally zero savings to dump. I think they’ll keep him and see what they’ve got. See if he can stay healthy and carve out a role against some competition.

Leash is going to be short, for sure.

Your lowest points allowed stat is 0.5 ppg lower than KC. It's essentially the same.

Actually KC's number is more impressive when you consider they didn't have 290 turnovers to end drives...

Yet you guys been beaten your chest because you beat 2 teams in that exact boat. Do you see the hypocrisy in that?

For the price him just being a really good Punt/Kick returner is worth it.

If he can stay healthy...

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Yep

I'll maintain that it's hard for trash QBs to get to10 wins. I agree there aren't many Mahomes but you don't have to down every other QB in the league to prop up Mahomes he's plenty good on his own.

Id imagine Reid sits down and has a long talk with Toney this offseason. Last season of his rookie deal coming up. Do you want to dedicate your life to football and have a breakout season and sign a second contract elsewhere for life changing money or do you want to continue on the same path and likely be out of the league in a couple of years? Now or never time for him.

Only plant Chief would count a loss as a win.

At the time.....Lions, Niners, Dolphins, Browns have a very good defense, Rams, at the time the Jags and Texans twice

We played a lot harder schedule than the Chiefs played this season regardless and you say all 10 win teams aren't built the same, that is true.

btw, you lost to the Lions and were playing at home. We destroyed them and played them at home. Does that mean we are better than you, no it doesn't, but it certainly doesn't support your argument. You really should look at your schedule before you start knocking ours.

Dude, Relax, everyone is saying this is your year. If Lamar performs tomorrow and beats us, he holds the spoils. He's expected to and based on your outstanding regular season the spread should be 10.5 points. Why defend your guy so vigorously in an opposing fans board when you know the bias will be over the top. It's what a lot of guys used to do on here during Mahomes early success. You would go to other boards and their would be 4 or 5 Chiefs fans defending our team and trying to gain "team esteem" from folks that aren't going to give it to you. Nowadays there may be one fan, posting on other teams forums because we don't need validation. So again, relax, if Lamar wins and looks good in doing so, you will be validated.

Maybe when it was 16 games.

Cleveland started Watson, DTR and Flacco off the couch.

Steelers had Pickett, Trubisky and Rudolph.

So, you’re objectively wrong.

There is a reason thay some teams get more TOs than other. Things like r7nningntobthe ball, punching the ball out, being where you're supposed to be . You can't just throw luck on it and throw it away. Takeaways usually equate to good teams

That’s not what is going on here at all. But nice strawman.

it's ok, I'm counting a bunch of the Chiefs wins this season as losses because they barely skated by. I'm also counting the colts, both Steelers games and the Browns loss as a win for the Ravens.

Guess we went undefeated.

Only on Planet Chief that beating 10 ten win teams isn't impressive.

doesn't mean anything if we don't win the Super Bowl. I'm just backing up my team because you and a bunch of Chiefs fans are knocking them for no apparent reason.

I mean, do you think you had a harder schedule than the Ravens did. We always have a harder division to get through. Always. Maybe you'll finally have some competition with Jim Harbaugh taking over the Chargers.

No knock on the Chiefs though, because I like the talent and coaching you have. I've always been a Mahomes fan.

I came see it now. We not worrying about it. Ot was a down year for us. And we were without Thuney.

Personally, these Ravens fans have convinced me that the Ravens are one of the greatest teams of all time.

They've convinced me it will take an all time choke, I mean, an all time choke that would be absolutely, positively embarrassing, and one I will point back to forever at Lamar as career defining if they lose to the Chiefs this weekend.

So nothing to fear, Ravens fans!

Hang the banner???

Idk what “personal reasons” is so I’m not going to judge. Dude could have lost a loved one for all we know.

And these are adult men who have played without this dude for well over a month now. They don’t give two shits about whether Kadarius Toney suits up or not. Let’s be realistic.

We’ll need to fill out the roster anyway and he is cheap and talented.

Otherwise you’re talking about rolling into the offseason with only Rice, Watson and Skyy Moore on retainer. Maybe Ross.. and that’s in an offseason where you may lose a Sneed, Gay, Chris Jones, Mike Danna, need to replace the LT, need to cycle in new RBs, need to start looking into TEotf, have to figure out a plan for Omenihu, Tranquil, and Mike Edward’s, etc.

That’s just a lot to figure out on top of having to completely overhaul a WR room as well.

Agreed. Give him one more offseason to shake shit loose. Continue on as if he is JAG. If he hits, you’re Gucci. If he busts, you can cut bait whenever and however you like during the season.

The ravens got no turnovers and sacks last week.

McDermott says whoa bro participation trophies are a Bills specialty

Honestly, do you really think we would be worried about a loss tomorrow? This is the best chance to get to the Super Bowl for one of the two teams but it ain’t the Chiefs.

I'm knocking the Ravens because they're next team up and that's what football fans do. I don't think anyone here is saying the Ravens are a bad team - they're not. What most of us find odd is the media acting like a recently much improved Jackson and defense are suddenly locks to win a game they historically don't win. That Jackson's losing playoff record isn't a thing. That Pat Mahomes insanely good playoff record isn't a thing.
It's a very odd sales pitch the media is spitting instead of the thing we all know to be true and obvious - Mahomes is going to win most playoff games he's in. And just like Allen he's going to continue to beat most QB's and teams he's already beaten.
A HOF QB is a cheat code that very few teams can ever overcome if they don't have one.

They're just on a different planet at the moment.... the same place we were pre-Mahomes, when we thought beating the Patriots in September was super impressive.

And then we'd thump our chest at Patriots fans, they'd laugh at us, and we'd call them arrogant assholes.

Well... now we're the arrogant assholes.

They simply don't have the long-view perspective that we can afford with Mahomes, where we've already won two Super Bowls, we're confident there will be more, so one season isn't the end of the world.

Like you said, this is everything to them... their once in a decade shot to make it to the Super Bowl without having to go through multiples between Burrow, Allen, and Mahomes.

We talk with our pads.

So the team that's been in 3 of the last 4 SB's doesn't have the better chance to win?

Based on what exactly? A few regular season stats from this year?
Your QB's losing playoff record?
Mahomes complete dominance of this conference and the insane imbalance of playoff experience between the two?
Is it the fact that our defenses are almost identical in all areas that matter?

There’s a difference between “knocking” and providing context to “look how many 10-win teams they beat!”

BTW, the Jags didn’t win 10 games.

I credited the Lions and 49ers wins as impressive wins.

Beating the Browns with Dorian Thompson-Robinson at QB? Nope.

The Texans in CJ Stroud’s first start, and then without 2/3 of their WR starters? Not really.

There’s always context involved.

And sometimes stats don’t tell the whole story, especially in samples as small as a single NFL season.

The Ravens have had a great year and are a great team. If they beat the Chiefs, they will win the Super Bowl having the best record in the league and having head-to-head wins against every member of the conference championship weekend. It would stamp them as one of the best teams in recent NFL history.

We’ll see what happens.

Confidence from the Chiefs end stems from:
1) an excellent defense that performed within fractional points of the Ravens immovable force D

2) an offense that consistently moved the ball but was held back by penalties and drops

3) having Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, who have put the blowtorch to top defenses repeatedly during their time together, even when numbers like DVOA indicated they can’t/should not.

4) styles making fights. The chiefs defensive style and personnel is the style and personnel that gives you the best chance against the Ravens offense. The Chiefs have an offensive mastermind and elite-elite QB who perform extremely well against blitzing, zone-heavy defenses.

And
5) this is our board. If you can’t read confidence from the Chiefs fans and critiques of your own team, maybe this isn’t for you. And you should go chug some antifreeze.

And not that long after 2019 happened... it's like they scored 13 on their wonderlic.

It's more convincing than most of what Lamar says...

But yet you’re here. The lack of self awareness is spectacular.

Anyone else notice how Lamar's solution in the 2nd half of the Texan's game looked shockingly similar to the leash the Bills put Allen on?

Just thought it was worth pointing out...

Turnovers by a defense have PROVEN to be completely driven by luck...sorry

You are not on the team

This shit is so boring and it's all we've said for a week now.

Ravens fans: ermergerd look at all these regular seasons reasons why the Ravens are so awesome!!!!

Chiefs fans: We'll see. Beat Mahomes and then we'll talk.

Ravens fans: ermergerd but what about all these regular season stats, they're going to win by 4 scores!

Chiefs fans: We'll see. Beat Mahomes first.

Ravens fans: ermergerd don't underestimate, there will be excuses when you lose by 3 touchdowns!!!!

Chiefs fans: k. I guess. We'll see, can we just watch the game and see what happens?

Ravens fans: ermergerd DeeeeeeVOAaaaaaaaa, 10 win teams, REGULAR SEASON STATS!!!! You're all reeruned if you don't accept the greatness now!!!

Chiefs fans: If they're great, they'll win this weekend.

Ravens fans: SAY THEY'RE GREAT NOW!!!!!!

I just want you to understand Pro Bowl doesn't mean much. You said how many Pro Bowl QBs the Ravens faced. I imagine itvwoukd make you feel better

Ravens and Lamar are soft and he still can't properly read a defense...oof

Maybe we stomp you last year in the playoffs too if Lamar hadn't chosen a business decision over playing...

That's actually a really good point.
The Pro Bowl is mostly a popularity contest voted on by casuals.

That said it's generally QB's considered better than Josh Allen that receive the awarded spots.

It's the Ravems fault because the Chiefs couldn't force TOs? On in Planet Chiefs. You do know thats apart of what makes defenses great. Not the end all be all but it is apart of the equation.

I've looked at your "turnovers". A bunch of fluke bullshit

No… it’s mostly just luck…

Go back and read. There's was more than a few on Chiefs Planet that said they were getting on a roll at the right time after beating a banged up Dolphins and Bills team.

Here’s what you’re missing:

That’s about the Chiefs, not the opponent.

Specifically, the Chiefs’ offense not crippling itself with penalties and drops. KC’s O has moved the ball well all season, only for those errors to hold it back.

Oh yeah, you've definitely misconstrued much of this thread because you've taken all of this as attacks on the beloved regular season greatness.

If you took those comments in the context of the offense struggling against a 3-win Patriots, followed by the abomination of Christmas Day, followed by kicking 84 field goals against another team that didn't make the playoffs...... then the playoff opponents don't matter nearly as much in terms of saying they're getting on a roll.

It's not "chest thumping" or an attack on the greatness of the regular season Ravens... it's acknowledging they looked awful against awful teams, and now they look a helluva a lot better. It's something we've rarely seen all season... it makes us happy.

And then we all say that we're a tiny bit optimistic and we'll just have to wait and see, and you misconstrue that, too.

Wut?

Yeah this is good news for up. What that tells me is the Ravens have faced alot of sack prone QBs. Mahomes just doesn't take many sacks compared to how many times hes pressured.

I think we have a good chance tomorrow, but nobody seems very concerned about the loss of Thuney. He's damn good.

Wtf, lol.

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And still held the Texans to 10 pts with 7 of thise coming on a punt return. But CJ Stroud is trash and the Texans aren't good. It was in the playoffs though so h9w do Planet Chiefs view that win?

Point is turnovers are random and your pass rush isn't an inevitable force.

The Texans drafted second in this past draft and the Chiefs won the Super Bowl with a qb on one leg.

You're right. CJ Stroud and the Texans are exactly like Mahomes and the Chiefs. Sure win, right?

Absolutely, not so shocking, right? Bigger question is whether or not he will return next year.

Chiefs pretty much said stay your ass at home. Doubtfully will be back on the team next year.

I’m convinced that Toney and Skyy were constantly screwing up and causing the entire Mahomes offensive engine to grind to halt. Imagine having to play QB with receivers that aren’t where they’re supposed to be, aren’t doing what they’re supposed to do, and screwing up more than just their route. No big surprise here but since Skyy and Toney took a seat the offense has at least looked competent and Mahomes hasn’t dropped back and looked surprised and hesitated at what he was seeing. That was happening a lot until they stopped playing.

Pretty sure there is a correlation.

I think people are looking at the regular season as a potential predictor of what could happen in th8s game. Whether you want to believe it or not. The Chiefs struggled for a large chunk of this season while the Ravens rolled through the regular season and their 1st playoff game. You said it yourself Lamar Jackson is much improved. The defense is much improved. You answered your own question. The reason why the media is predicting a Ravens win in a game the normally lose is because the QB is much improved. As well as tue defense. Add that with the fact the Chiefs haven't been the normal Chiefs this season and you get some being skeptical. Now with that said everyone k iws who Patrick Mahomes is and no one would be surprised if Mahomes went nuts and the Chiefs won.

Personal reason being that Patrick said that ****er isn’t going to be anywhere near the field with his uniform on…

I've been concerned since Sunday lol.

I knew that loss was gonna suck. Allegretti is competent but there will be a noticeable difference.

I’m pretty sure he made the same sentiment for Sky Moore.

Stop being so reeruned, you just got done crying about how we're propping up the Dolphins and Bills wins, so stop propping up your own shitty playoff win.