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Hammock Parties 10-17-2012 06:31 PM
Bowe gets more separation than Baldwin.

Baldwin gets practically NONE.

At the end of the day this isn't a hard argument to win. Chambers, Moeaki, Breaston, Moss, Gaffney and Welker have all produced at some decent level with Cassel.

The guys who don't really ****ing suck.

milkman 10-17-2012 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DBOSHO (Post 9026218)
When was bowe out in the atl game?
Sorry, by out, I mean just coming back from his holdout and not fully football ready.

Baldwin needed to step up.

FAX 10-17-2012 06:32 PM
Have you guys seen the article about Bowe "badly" wanting out of the Chiefs organization?

FAX

BigMeatballDave 10-17-2012 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9026231)
Because he's not awesome at getting separation, either.

Still manages to produce despite it.

So let's not compare him to a ****ing Pioli bust, mmmkay?

I'm pretty sure the Patriots haven't drafted a good wide receiver since Terry friggin Glenn.
LOL

23 targets, dude.

Its the same ratio as Bowe.

I'm not saying Baldwin will be great, I'm simply questioning your rationale.

Brianfo 10-17-2012 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9026205)
Did you see Baldwin in the season opener with Bowe out?

Neither did I.
You have just silenced all idiots. Bowe is a player, but I am in favor of trading him for draft picks. Look this team isn't going to contend until we get a franchise QB. Trade JC too. He only has 1-2 more years left with his build. Get a legitimate fukn QB then we will talk.

Hammock Parties 10-17-2012 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9026240)
Pioli is a sure fire **** stick but your hatred of players just because Pioli drafted them is so obvious its funny.
I was a huge homer for Baldwin when he was drafted.

Loved the kid. Went apeshit over his length, leaping ability and speed.

But as time has gone by, it's become quite apparent to me that he's just not very good.

I'll eat crow if he improves.

Don't see it.

milkman 10-17-2012 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9026240)
WTF? So anything Pioli does is bad because of NE?

Pioli is a sure fire **** stick but your hatred of players just because Pioli drafted them is so obvious its funny.

If Baldwin becomes a HOF player I wouldn't give Pioli credit anyway, he was a Haley pick. Just like Poe is a Crennel pick.
Whether it was a Pioli or Haley pick is irrelevant, though the way that Pioli micromanages everything, I highly doubt that Haley had any say.

But the fact is, Baldwin is not producing, not at a level that a first round pick should.

O.city 10-17-2012 06:34 PM
Well, I'm gonna be taking a fairly long break from CP. Got alot of stuff going on with school and school matters etc. Plus I really don't give a shit about the Chiefs right now.


Keep fighting the good fight guys.

Clay, stay on everyone round here to keep grinding this thing out.

Marcellus 10-17-2012 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9026256)
Whether it was a Pioli or Haley pick is irrelevant, though the way that Pioli micromanages everything, I highly doubt that Haley had any say.

But the fact is, Baldwin is not producing, not at a level that a first round pick should.
The QB's and coaching suck Milk, you cant have it both ways.

No way dude has had a chance to prove himself. No way.

chiefzilla1501 10-17-2012 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9026254)
I was a huge homer for Baldwin when he was drafted.

Loved the kid. Went apeshit over his length, leaping ability and speed.

But as time has gone by, it's become quite apparent to me that he's just not very good.

I'll eat crow if he improves.

Don't see it.
The scouting report on him was that for as freakishly athletic as he was, he never improved when he was in college. They couldn't figure out what it was. There were plenty of warning signs about the guy. And that's not even counting the fact that he is an ultimate diva.

jd1020 10-17-2012 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 9026256)
Whether it was a Pioli or Haley pick is irrelevant, though the way that Pioli micromanages everything, I highly doubt that Haley had any say.

But the fact is, Baldwin is not producing, not at a level that a first round pick should.
Sucks for Baldwin that he plays a position that relies solely on the 48th best QB in the league.

Hammock Parties 10-17-2012 06:37 PM
The QBs and coaching suck, but that didn't stop Breaston last year.

So I'll choose to believe Baldwin sucks, especially since he rarely gets good separation.

Big guy who can jump, but a very below average NFL WR. Mike Williams II.

DBOSHO 10-17-2012 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Brianfo (Post 9026251)
You have just silenced all idiots. Bowe is a player, but I am in favor of trading him for draft picks. Look this team isn't going to contend until we get a franchise QB. Trade JC too. He only has 1-2 more years left with his build. Get a legitimate fukn QB then we will talk.
You start a post calling out idiots, then go on to say you want to draft a franchise quarterback only to trade away our best offensive weapon that would aid a rookie quarterback?

ARROW2 10-17-2012 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9026254)
I was a huge homer for Baldwin when he was drafted.

Loved the kid. Went apeshit over his length, leaping ability and speed.

But as time has gone by, it's become quite apparent to me that he's just not very good.

I'll eat crow if he improves.

Don't see it.



Won't know until we get a real QB

Marcellus 10-17-2012 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9026265)
The QBs and coaching suck, but that didn't stop Breaston last year.

So I'll choose to believe Baldwin sucks, especially since he rarely gets good separation.

Big guy who can jump, but a very below average NFL WR. Mike Williams II.
We dont have the same OC as last year and it appears this guy is worse.

Seriously, 36 runs in a half against the 23rd ranked pass defense?

Nuff said.


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