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Dayze 04-08-2014 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10519136)
Please. Just stop.

I've talked to a few Colts fans and expressed my perfect hatred of their franchise that slipped on ONE goddamn banana peel into another HOF QB right after they were done using the other, BOTH conveniently attained with the 1st overall pick. It's like that team went in a ****ing time machine and figured out the two best years to pick at 1.1 and made it happen. I have no doubt that they'll probably get their next QB the same way.

You know what they said to me?

"Yeah, but you don't remember the years we had to draft Steve Emtman, Jeff George, Cornelius Bennett, and all those other top draft picks to fall in the years of Cleveland Browns-like ineptitude. You don't remember being forced to trade away John Elway."

Yeah? And those ****ers don't remember the Chiefs ****ing around with no playoff appearances from the heart-breaking longest NFL game ever played on that Christmas day in the 70s all the way until the goddamn 1990s. They don't remember picking the one top QB in 1983 that sucked ass. They don't remember strings of terrible and awful playoff losses to their shitty ****ing Colts teams.

I don't give a shit what they had to go through. NO TEAM, not even the modern day Cleveland Browns deserve the strokes of luck they've enjoyed recently. And no team deserves what Chiefs fans have had to go through.

The Colts can take their "Jeff George... John Elway... boohoo" sob story and tear out the next vagina that will produce the next all-time great NFL QB they'll draft with the first pick in the draft. And you can kindly shut the **** up about your pitiful Patriots story before 2001 that nobody gives a shit about.

Neither franchise is the Chiefs. They don't ****ing compare.

well done.

TimeForWasp 04-08-2014 07:31 PM

Left tackle is where he belongs. Muscle memory. He belongs there and he will play well there.

Rausch 04-08-2014 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsNow (Post 10549169)
Left tackle is where he belongs. Muscle memory. He belongs there and he will play well there.

Ok. Here's the problem: in all those plays Alex SEES Fish getting beat like a drum and adjusts.

He won't be able to do that when his back is to Fisher.

If it was just about Fish sucking it wouldn't be such a big deal. The problem is he might very well get Alex killed and once he goes down it's all about cheering for a top 5 pick again...

TimeForWasp 04-08-2014 07:59 PM

It was actually smart to break him in at right tackle. It gave him the chance to get used to NFL speed. I personally think he was the best choice the chiefs had, and I know in my mind the wanted to trade the first pick.

TimeForWasp 04-08-2014 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10549324)
Ok. Here's the problem: in all those plays Alex SEES Fish getting beat like a drum and adjusts.

He won't be able to do that when his back is to Fisher.

If it was just about Fish sucking it wouldn't be such a big deal. The problem is he might very well get Alex killed and once he goes down it's all about cheering for a top 5 pick again...

The veterans always give the rookies, especially the highly drafted rookies a hard time. They always test the rookies. He got better through the year and he will be back to his spot this year. No longer a rookie and no longer being treated as a rookie.

TEX 04-08-2014 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10549324)
Ok. Here's the problem: in all those plays Alex SEES Fish getting beat like a drum and adjusts.

He won't be able to do that when his back is to Fisher.


If it was just about Fish sucking it wouldn't be such a big deal. The problem is he might very well get Alex killed and once he goes down it's all about cheering for a top 5 pick again...

Are you right or left handed? Whichever you are, use your other one to write with. Pretty hard, right? That was Fish last year. Now use your normal hand to write with. Much easier, right? That will be Fish this year. Id bet he's better at doing what he's used to.

TEX 04-08-2014 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsNow (Post 10549332)
It was actually smart to break him in at right tackle. It gave him the chance to get used to NFL speed. I personally think he was the best choice the chiefs had, and I know in my mind the wanted to trade the first pick.

+ 1

TimeForWasp 04-08-2014 08:13 PM

I also think they will be hoping to trade the first pick this year, hoping to get a couple 2nd rounders and a later rounder.

htismaqe 04-08-2014 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10549394)
Are you right or left handed? Whichever you are, use your other one to write with. Pretty hard, right? That was Fish last year. Now use your normal hand to write with. Much easier, right? That will be Fish this year. Id bet he's better at doing what he's used to.

How much better? He was downright awful at times last year. It only takes 1 whiff to end Alex Smith's season...

GloryDayz 04-08-2014 08:21 PM

I'm excited to see him at LT. Let's see what the kid can do...

chiefzilla1501 04-08-2014 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10549478)
How much better? He was downright awful at times last year. It only takes 1 whiff to end Alex Smith's season...

He was not nearly as bad the second half of the year as people want him to be.

And he was a guy we knew was raw, entering into a shortended practice schedule, and on top of that had to learn to play on the complete opposite side of the ball. And an area where his strength was more im portant than his feet. We don't know what we have in this kid. But I'd like a full offseason with him dedicated to his natural position to find out.

RealSNR 04-08-2014 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 10549394)
Are you right or left handed? Whichever you are, use your other one to write with. Pretty hard, right? That was Fish last year. Now use your normal hand to write with. Much easier, right? That will be Fish this year. Id bet he's better at doing what he's used to.

Give me a break. Fine motor movements = movements you make to play LT/RT

Yes, the coordination IS a challenge, but there are tons of players who switch sides all the time. Donald Stephenson is just one example. Remember John Tait's transition to RT? It was pretty decent. Charles Brown for the Saints. Bryan Bulaga for the Packers. The list goes on and on.

Look at those gifs from that post and tell me the reason why Fisher gets raped on each play is because he was confused and hesitant. He gets bowled over right on his goddamn ass. And it happened constantly throughout last year.

The position switch is a contributor to his struggles last year, but it's not the only thing. He struggled because he played like a pussy. That's overwhelmingly why he sucked dick.

The reason why he could potentially be okay next year is MAYBE 10% being more comfortable on the left side. The rest of it is going to be a new familiarity with the pace of the game, the playbook, and the different types of varied pass rush moves he saw for basically the first time last year. Also a year in the weight room is going to help out tremendously.

But the whole left side/right side thing is and has always been blown out of proportion. It's tough. I get that. But when you have an entire offseason of reps and one-on-one time with coaches in OTAs and training camp and even in regular season practices, there comes a time when the excuses of "I'm just so used to kick-stepping with my left leg first" are ****ing unacceptable.

chiefzilla1501 04-08-2014 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10549534)
Give me a break. Fine motor movements = movements you make to play LT/RT

Yes, the coordination IS a challenge, but there are tons of players who switch sides all the time. Donald Stephenson is just one example. Remember John Tait's transition to RT? It was pretty decent. Charles Brown for the Saints. Bryan Bulaga for the Packers. The list goes on and on.

Look at those gifs from that post and tell me the reason why Fisher gets raped on each play is because he was confused and hesitant. He gets bowled over right on his goddamn ass. And it happened constantly throughout last year.

The position switch is a contributor to his struggles last year, but it's not the only thing. He struggled because he played like a pussy. That's overwhelmingly why he sucked dick.

The reason why he could potentially be okay next year is MAYBE 10% being more comfortable on the left side. The rest of it is going to be a new familiarity with the pace of the game, the playbook, and the different types of varied pass rush moves he saw for basically the first time last year. Also a year in the weight room is going to help out tremendously.

But the whole left side/right side thing is and has always been blown out of proportion. It's tough. I get that. But when you have an entire offseason of reps and one-on-one time with coaches in OTAs and training camp and even in regular season practices, there comes a time when the excuses of "I'm just so used to kick-stepping with my left leg first" are ****ing unacceptable.

You don't get a full offseason of reps. The new CBA has significantly shortened the amount of reps rookies get in OTAs and with coaches. For a raw player from a small division, let alone one changing from Left to Right Tackle, that shit makes a huge difference.

TimeForWasp 04-08-2014 08:39 PM

When he grows into his frame, he will be tops.

chiefzilla1501 04-08-2014 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsNow (Post 10549576)
When he grows into his frame, he will be tops.

And plays a position where the frame is a little less important. Poe went through a monster change in conditioning in one offseason and I'm guessing Fisher will too.


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