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DJ's left nut 07-25-2022 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16381375)
I honestly dont see it getting done before the deadline.

I've heard that at least 2 potential buyers would prefer to buy the team with Soto.

Most likely scenario is this goes into the offseason, yeah.

His value will be diminished somewhat by the lack of a post-season run, but I really think most teams looking to acquire him are doing so with an eye on the next decade+ rather than just his team control years.

It does seem that the Lerners would be wise to let the owernship situation play it. It could potentially cost them tens of millions (hundreds?) if they play it wrong.

jd1020 07-25-2022 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16381385)
His value will be diminished somewhat by the lack of a post-season run

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DJ's left nut 07-25-2022 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16381387)
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Oh he ain't getting into y'alls range.

Since Brennen Davis may/may not have an actual spine (and I've never thought he was equal to the prospect hype anyway). I know y'all are fond of Pete Crow-Armstrong but...I mean...c'mon.

jd1020 07-25-2022 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16381395)
Oh he ain't getting into y'alls range.

Since Brennen Davis may/may not have an actual spine (and I've never thought he was equal to the prospect hype anyway). I know y'all are fond of Pete Crow-Armstrong but...I mean...c'mon.

I dunno, PCA getting pretty close to where Davis was on the boards. Cubs have one of the better ranked systems in the game. They just dont have that premier guy right now since Davis had the back surgery but he did have 60FV grades before the season.

DJ's left nut 07-25-2022 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16381397)
I dunno, PCA getting pretty close to where Davis was on the boards. Cubs have one of the better ranked systems in the game. They just dont have that premier guy right now since Davis had the back surgery but he did have 60FV grades before the season.

And Gore just pulled from the game with a sore elbow.

That's...not ideal for the Padres.

Then again, like I said last week, Gore's been backing up for a bit now. Very little surprise that there's an injury at the source.

jd1020 07-25-2022 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16381400)
And Gore just pulled from the game with a sore elbow.

That's...not ideal for the Padres.

Then again, like I said last week, Gore's been backing up for a bit now. Very little surprise that there's an injury at the source.

After the season the newly selected draftees can be traded. Who knows what comes back from headliners like Contreras and Happ...

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I give it very little chance of happening, but its literally 0% chance to happen before the deadline. Let a man dream.

BigRedChief 07-25-2022 11:09 PM

Katie Woo on the Athletic thinks this gets it done

Jordan Walker and Masyn Winn, in the Cardinals’ case — seems to be the bare minimum Washington would ask for. It’s believed the rostered player the Nationals would covet the most is 23-year-old outfielder Dylan Carlson, who isn’t arbitration-eligible until 2024 and won’t be a free agent until 2027. Plus take on Corbin’s money and add a starting pitcher to the deal.

But, she says the Cards are focusing on acquiring starting pitching at the deadline ,not Soto.

jd1020 07-26-2022 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 16381472)
But, she says the Cards are focusing on acquiring starting pitching at the deadline ,not Soto.

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Cardinals are dumb as **** if they just brush this off and stash it in the "we don't need him to win" category.

Cubs have no shot at it because even with a top 5 ranked system there's no Walker level guy in the system. An Athlethic writer for the Cubs said this on the situation...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I don&#39;t think the Cubs will get Juan Soto for a few reasons. But talk about it not being the right time or not worth the prospect cost makes no sense to me. The right time to pursue a generational talent is when they&#39;re available, which so rarely happens. <a href="https://t.co/pMIEJAbcWn">https://t.co/pMIEJAbcWn</a></p>&mdash; Sahadev Sharma (@sahadevsharma) <a href="https://twitter.com/sahadevsharma/status/1550839409871917058?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And then this nugget...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With the Juan Soto sweepstakes heating up, I looked at every example of a team trading for a recent top MVP finisher in the last 30 years.<br><br>Short version: Teams acquiring such a player almost always win the trade, and win big, no matter the prospect cost.<a href="https://t.co/cObGOh13y9">https://t.co/cObGOh13y9</a></p>&mdash; Kyle Glaser (@KyleAGlaser) <a href="https://twitter.com/KyleAGlaser/status/1551570020920020993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DeWitt and Mozeliak over there focusing on that 1 time where it arguably didn't work out with a player that most certainly wasn't anywhere near Soto's level.

There's solid pitching available out there that's probably available for cheap. Blake Snell is probably on the we need to free up cash list for the Padres and he's got a 3.5 FIP on the season. Mike Clevinger is probably on that same list and he just returned from TJS. Neither of those guys would require anyone from the Soto pool of prospects, unlike a guy like Montas.

raybec 4 07-26-2022 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16381577)
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Cardinals are dumb as **** if they just brush this off and stash it in the "we don't need him to win" category.

Cubs have no shot at it because even with a top 5 ranked system there's no Walker level guy in the system. An Athlethic writer for the Cubs said this on the situation...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I don&#39;t think the Cubs will get Juan Soto for a few reasons. But talk about it not being the right time or not worth the prospect cost makes no sense to me. The right time to pursue a generational talent is when they&#39;re available, which so rarely happens. <a href="https://t.co/pMIEJAbcWn">https://t.co/pMIEJAbcWn</a></p>&mdash; Sahadev Sharma (@sahadevsharma) <a href="https://twitter.com/sahadevsharma/status/1550839409871917058?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 23, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And then this nugget...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With the Juan Soto sweepstakes heating up, I looked at every example of a team trading for a recent top MVP finisher in the last 30 years.<br><br>Short version: Teams acquiring such a player almost always win the trade, and win big, no matter the prospect cost.<a href="https://t.co/cObGOh13y9">https://t.co/cObGOh13y9</a></p>&mdash; Kyle Glaser (@KyleAGlaser) <a href="https://twitter.com/KyleAGlaser/status/1551570020920020993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DeWitt and Mozeliak over there focusing on that 1 time where it arguably didn't work out with a player that most certainly wasn't anywhere near Soto's level.

There's solid pitching available out there that's probably available for cheap. Blake Snell is probably on the we need to free up cash list for the Padres and he's got a 3.5 FIP on the season. Mike Clevinger is probably on that same list and he just returned from TJS. Neither of those guys would require anyone from the Soto pool of prospects, unlike a guy like Montas.

If they trade any one of their top prospects for Montas and pass on Soto that would be very upsetting. I would have to write a strongly worded email or something.

KChiefs1 07-26-2022 07:30 PM

You always trade for a talent like Soto.

How is it even debatable?


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George Liquor 07-26-2022 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 16382775)
You always trade for a talent like Soto.

How is it even debatable?


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Newsflash: They won't

ChiefsCountry 07-26-2022 07:34 PM

If the Royals were in the same position with a solid team and the right prospects to trade like the Cardinals are and they didn't go after Soto I would be pissed.

Chief Roundup 07-26-2022 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 16382775)
You always trade for a talent like Soto.

How is it even debatable?


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Missing the point.

Do you think that the Cardinals will trade for Soto?

KChiefs1 07-26-2022 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16382780)
If the Royals were in the same position with a solid team and the right prospects to trade like the Cardinals are and they didn't go after Soto I would be pissed.


Me too.

Goldy & Arenado & could add Soto.

That’s an insane lineup.


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raybec 4 07-26-2022 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 16382784)
Missing the point.

Do you think that the Cardinals will trade for Soto?

They probably won't, but Mo will certainly enjoy telling everyone how close they came but were just barely outbid at the last minute. "We tried!"


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