Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17120492)

Bolton and Creed are flipsides of the same coins.

Smart technicians that seemingly always make the correct play and are instrumental in communication and coordination on their respective sides of the ball.

They're fan favorites and leaders in their own right. If/when Thuney eventually prices himself out of KC, Creed is going to be the leader of that OL for the next half-decade, IMO.

"I don't want to pay off-ball linebackers when we can draft X" -- well hell, wouldn't that apply to Creed? When was the last time we struggled at C? Reiter evidently sucks but he was awfully solid here. Before that was Morse and before that Hudson.

We never struggle to find a C but when you find a guy like Humphrey that you think can be a true leader of the group, I think you pay him and keep him if at all possible. And I think a similar logic applies to Bolton.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17120501)

When you can get a guy like Tranquill for 5 mil a year, why would I pay Bolton? Is the difference worth the amount it would cost?

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17120482)

And that, my friends, is textbook 'flow and fill'.

I will forever maintain that there are few things easier than run defense. And that "Sutton's Complicated Scheme" was never the reason ours sucked.

We just had 'backers that didn't DO this shit well. They'd come downhill too early or overcommit to a gap and leave a cutback.

This is absolutely perfect LB play against a stretch run. That's how you diagram it.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17120494)

So you really think they set Pat's contract so that's teh way this will go? Have we learned nothing?

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17120329)

Breakfast was fantastic, thank you for asking! 4 pasture raised eggs scrambled with some ground grass fed beef, topped with a little cheddar. Have it everyday, it's a true power breakfast!

Many fans were definitely pulling for Leo to be a Packer, but they're like that with every decent Badger that goes through. He was very highly regarded by local media in his Badger days, though. I did see him live in several games at Camp Randall, and he always stood out as such a physically dominant specimen. I didn't understand why we picked him at the time just because it didn't seem like a need, but now that they've developed this nifty little role for him I am loving the pick!

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17120408)

Nobody wants to pay their off ball LBs until you let him go and the defense gets sloppier

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17120522)

$57 million or more cap hits 3 years in a row after this one. You think Clark is gonna pull out his checkbook to pay that restructure after doing this?

History tells us that he won't and we'll still have 2 years of crazy high cap hits from Patrick at the absolute best.

That's why tagging and trading Chris is the best option.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17120501)

When you can get a guy like Tranquill for 5 mil a year, why would I pay Bolton? Is the difference worth the amount it would cost?

And paying for leadership? This ain't Frank Clark we;re talking about.

Originally Posted by Straight, No Chaser (Post 17120567)

Blasphemy… Nick Bolton is a tackling machine. Top shelf. Wouldn’t be surprised he heads the league in tackles.

Grown football men crumble when he is in the vicinity.

Please keep. Had enough of Hitchens-type people.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17120564)

So the way I understand it, they can use the conversions to keep the cap numbers at whatever they want and stretch it out. Essentially what they've been doing.

Why would Hunt all of a sudden not do that.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17120522)

$57 million or more cap hits 3 years in a row after this one. You think Clark is gonna pull out his checkbook to pay that restructure after doing this?

History tells us that he won't and we'll still have 2 years of crazy high cap hits from Patrick at the absolute best.

That's why tagging and trading Chris is the best option.

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17120268)

I get that, but at the same Nick Bolton makes game-changing plays every week. I'm not comfortable walking away from him in favor of, say, Sneed or (to a lesser degree)Trey.