WAY out.

Maybe I'm just way to low on him, I need to go back and watch I guess.

That's what FA is though. Christian Kirk was a pretty decent player but never was an all pro or pro bowler and the Jags gave him $18 million APY.

Idk what you guys want. It's either "this players is too much" or "well we're back where we are this year not getting talent".

They're probably spending big on at least 1 WR. Probably Calvin Ridley bc he's a good route runner that has experience in our offense.

I know its been cited in here already to death but hes been productive in about as much of a garbage situation as there is. He passed stability on the tarmac going the other way when he got traded and flew in to Arizona. I'm not saying hes the end all be all but hes a poor mans tyreek imo, or just a Desean Jackson for this offense. Pair that with Rice and now you need one spot filled between the roster currently, the draft and late free agency. Hollywood is 27-28 and should still have 3-4 good years left in him (or hes desean jackson and plays another 10).

It's not my wet dream scenario its just what makes a lot of sense to me. I see him as more than just a downfield speed threat. He's 10x the reciever MVS is outside of just going deep. I am a little biased being from oklahoma thought. They used him for anything and everything. Hes just a play maker.

That's why you trade for and pay the guys that are worth it.

But then you're paying top dollar AND trading away at least a 1st round pick.

And that's assuming that a team like the 49ers or Bengals are willing to trade and for a reasonable price.

It's really not that simple.

Your talent assessment was WAY off.

Baltimore WR's > KC WR's.


If Mahomes switched WR's with Lamar, Mahomes is getting 3rd MVP and we have the #1 seed.

Pay twice? I'd rather not.

Yeah. And you get the better player.

The guys in FA are in FA for a reason.

They have to do both.

If we had been hitting on WR's previously then we would not have to acquire in FA.

You can't trust production from draft picks unless you are not planning to try to win a SB next year.

Rice is a better athlete and a better asset than JuJu from last year but he is still a rookie learning. You need to have guys the QB can trust to play the game from the start.

And it's never just a 1st rd pick. AJ Brown got traded for a 1st and 3rd, and they had the 18th pick. The 26th-30th pick is not as valuable.

So you're pissing away all your draft resources and money

He's their 4th WR...if MVS was our 4 people would be less upset.

They don't have the best WR group in the league or anything but they did attack the position. It has 2 1st round picks and a cheap vet mixed with a former star.

Also the argument isn't "hey Rice is having a better year than Flowers" or that he's better than any of Baltimore's guys because Rice isn't the issue. The issue is everyone else, we have 1 WR where they have 3.

As an overall group we are at the bottom of the damn league, but that is what happens with low investment in the position.

Pissing away money and resources.....for a top 3 all pro?

I mean, it cost alot. The reward for them has been....pretty much worth it.

They've invested, just not first rounders. If that's what it's gonna take, do it.

It isn't just about 1's either. We have low investment in the position compared to many teams.

We have 2 2's, if you are going to go with 2's then you have to turn around and re-invest. Pittsburgh is a great example of this, they used 2's on Juju, James Washington and George Pickens but they also used a 4 on Diontae Johnson.

It works for them because they just keep swinging. Also there is something to be said for what types of swings you take, are you swinging at raw elite talent?Or you swinging at a technician, or are you taking a blind swing because honestly Skyy Moore feels kinda that way, he isn't a toolsy athletic guy or a refined technician..so uh what is he?