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Marco Polo 08-14-2024 07:34 PM

This is depressing to watch.

Megatron96 08-15-2024 07:45 PM

Any idea how likely it is that Marlon gets canned? And who could replace him? Maddon? Francona? Beltran? Shrek?

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-15-2024 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17632504)
Any idea how likely it is that Marlon gets canned? And who could replace him? Maddon? Francona? Beltran? Shrek?

I don't think it really matters given how poorly the organization is run. If you can't develop and scout your players, you're dead in the water.

Megatron96 08-16-2024 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 17632532)
I don't think it really matters given how poorly the organization is run. If you can't develop and scout your players, you're dead in the water.


So, Shrek it is then.


On a slightly more serious note, it's sad to see how far STL has fallen in terms of being able to scout/develop talent. Used to be a strength.

BigRedChief 08-16-2024 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17633220)
So, Shrek it is then.


On a slightly more serious note, it's sad to see how far STL has fallen in terms of being able to scout/develop talent. Used to be a strength.

When your owner cares more about money than winning he hires people that will make him the most money. That GM hire doesn't need to be a good evaluator of players, how to develop players none of that baseball stuff.

Then you have the GM who will only hire yes men. You have a different opinion better keep it to yourself or you'll be fired even if you are the manager of the year.

Marcellus 08-16-2024 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17633294)
When your owner cares more about money than winning he hires people that will make him the most money. That GM hire doesn't need to be a good evaluator of players, how to develop players none of that baseball stuff.

Then you have the GM who will only hire yes men. You have a different opinion better keep it to yourself or you'll be fired even if you are the manager of the year.

I'm one of those weird people that thinks winning makes more $$ though.

But that actually takes work and diligence.

DJ's left nut 08-16-2024 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17633294)
When your owner cares more about money than winning he hires people that will make him the most money. That GM hire doesn't need to be a good evaluator of players, how to develop players none of that baseball stuff.

Then you have the GM who will only hire yes men. You have a different opinion better keep it to yourself or you'll be fired even if you are the manager of the year.

Which gets back to a previous point I've made a hundred times:

How does setting literally a quarter of a billion dollars on fire for Dexter Fowler, Andrew Miller, Brett Cecil, Greg Holland and Mike Leake help make him money? How do ridiculously silly early extensions for guys like Matt Carpenter, Lance Lynn, Carlos Martinez and Miles Mikolas help in that pursuit?

All the money thrown at aging players like Goldschmidt and Arenado only to act surprised that aging curves exist? How does that help DeWitt make money?

Mozeliak DOESN'T help him make money. He does nothing more than any one of us ****-knuckles could do. He doesn't find undervalued assets. He trades guys like Arozarena and Gallen at the bottom of their value for less effective and/or more expensive assets. His scouting department is a tire fire.

He doesn't do ANYTHING that would help Bill DeWitt win baseball games OR make money.

Why the **** is he still employed? It just makes zero sense to me.

When the best signings on your ledger over the last decade or so are a catcher who can't actually field his position and a couple of old pitchers who might barely be worth what they're making by pitching at league average (and that's certainly all you can reaosnably expect of them) then you really have no business running a major league baseball team.

This organization has won, what, 2 playoff games in the last decade? There's just no excuse for this malaise.

George Liquor 08-16-2024 01:32 PM

I keep reading Dewallet 3 is calling the shots now and has no idea what he is doing.

L.A. Chieffan 08-16-2024 08:37 PM

So I'm watching the Dodger game and I notice it says The Lou on the Cardinals jerseys. Lol what? Since when do they call it The Lou? Lol Don't they know that literally means The Toilet? Hahaha too perfect

BigRedChief 08-16-2024 11:24 PM

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As per our usual trades, as soon as a player leaves us, he starts tearing the cover off the ball.

DJ's left nut 08-17-2024 09:05 AM

Was there ever a doubt?

And somehow nobody is ever held accountable. A starting caliber outfielder who we’ve held back and then dumped for nothing while under team control does WHAT exactly to help us win cheap?

This organization does NOTHING well.

BigRedChief 08-17-2024 10:19 AM

I watched the highlights from last nights game. Looked to me that those pitches were grabbing way too much of the plate and lacked movement he usually gets. He was tired. He blew this game.
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George Liquor 08-18-2024 04:13 PM

I can't believe player after player leaves this organization to flourish and NOBODY gets fired for it outside of maybe some nameless lackey.

This franchise needs an enema

BigRedChief 08-18-2024 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by George Liquor (Post 17636378)
I can't believe player after player leaves this organization to flourish and NOBODY gets fired for it outside of maybe some nameless lackey.

This franchise needs an enema

None of that happens until there are a lot of empty seats at Bush.

George Liquor 08-18-2024 04:24 PM

Slowly getting there... I know Ohatni is a draw so the lower levels looked full but the crowds are shrinking.

Wonder what kind of threats Dewallet 3 will make next?


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