Right? Henry Lake is gone. No idea why the switch happened. Vern was a main radio guy in Milwaukee

I've quit watching until they bench, DFA or trade Escobar. This is ridiculous that he plays in anything other than a back up utility guy role.

Henry Lake got a job offer in Atlanta so he took it..Jay Binkly isn't really cut out to be a full time host anyway.

Why anyone would hire Henry Lake is beyond me. He is below average at everything he does. Yet, probably better than Binkley, who is likable enough, but he is just like an average guy talking on the radio.

I thought Lake was heading back to Minneapolis?

Dear mother of God. They gave that fat ****ing reerun Ron a promotion. Jesus Christ. That station officialy fell off the deep end.

From what I heard briefly today, I actually liked Vern in that role. They should do Vern + Carrington. Not a big fun of Ron and his takes, although he is quite jovial.

It is when we're still talking about Dayton Moore making this pick. And before anyone says Hoch wasn't Moore's pick... you're foolish to think that he didn't have his hand in it.

Definitely a "stick things to the wall" move, since that station is in trouble.

@jazayerli: A first baseman with a career walk rate of under 4%? Of course they are. 🤦*♂️

Royals' interested in Ryon Healy https://twitter.com/mlbtrroyals/stat...45240857608192

I'm tired of Moore and his complete lack of concern for OBP.

Alt History time.

Wil Myers trade never happens. Royals sign Anibal Sanchez at 5/85 instead. All other transactions (except the ones involved Wade, of course) stay the same. How does 2013-2018 go for us?

I'll start by saying I think that thanks to Odo in 2015, and Wil/Odo in 2016, we make the playoffs in 2015 and 2016 (with a shot at making it in 2013 thanks to Anibal, too) but ultimately, I don't think we end up taking the title. What do you all think?

Should it be reasonable to expect a similar return on Whit that ChiSox got for Eaton? To me that seems pretty reasonable, and both are very similar players.

I do question if Moore has the cajones or skill to pull off such a trade.

Whit is a 6 win player? That's news to me.

This is true.

Vern and Hughley will be much better listening from 10-2 for 610 fans.


The part that sucks is replacing Vern with Binkley. Yeesh. Oh well. I guess the Royals won't be good again for a few years anyway, so really doesn't matter much . . . . .

I think a more realistic comp would be the Ben Zobrist trade the Royals made. One Top 50 prospect and couple projectable Low A guys.

I may be in the minority (and don't give a flying F either way), but I like Ron the Show and was hoping he'd get a bigger role. Unfortunately they put him against Petro who is far and away the best host in KC. He'd be better off sticking to the night show compared to that. Hopefully he can make it to drive time because choosing between Carrington and KK is awful.

So the Royals get Wade Davis for free?

No. I tried to clarify that by saying the transactions involving Wade obviously wouldn't happen since he wouldn't have been traded over.

The last guy that did Royals pre and post when they were bad is now the radio play-by-play guy for the Astros.

@jonmorosi: Sources: #Brewers have considered possibility of acquiring Mike Moustakas and moving Travis Shaw to 2B, but pitching may become the more urgent priority following Suter injury. @MLBNetwork @MLB

Send them Duffy and Moose then.

Moose not in tonight's lineup...

Day off against a lefty. No way they would trade him the day of a home game and not pull him during the game so the crowd could acknowledge him.

Monday seems like a strange day to give a player off after a day game.

Gordon and Moose were both sat because of the LHP the Tigers started....

Moose would tear it up in that ballpark, and it'd be fun to seem him and Cain together again, but from the Brewers perspective this just seems like a really bad idea. Their lineup might look better but their middle infield defense would be an adventure.

Mauer about to blow a great effort by Fillmeyer

I literally would have just brought Hammel in from the beginning. We all know how this is going to end.

And there it is. You could have put 1 million dollars on that.

Yep, tie game.

What a ****ing waste of oxygen.

And Mauer blows the game.

What a turd this guy is. I don’t understand why we keep him on the team.


Yes, I realize it doesn’t matter ultimately (except for the rook who just got his great effort pissed all over).

Just DFA Maurer, seriously. I’m sure we gotta another below average bullpen arm we can stick in there that will still be better than that pile of shit.

I could say that the Royals squandered opportunities to give Maurer a bigger cushion, but I don’t think you can produce a Maurer-proof lead.

Well this is fun.

Has Moore explained why he traded for this guy?

Or why he is still on the team. Or why Ned puts him in to close games instead of garbage time.

Maybe we had too much momentum from our weekend sweep of the Twins so Ned wanted to plug Maurer in to get things back on track . . . . . . :shrug:

Because he wanted Matt Strahm out of the Royals system?

Man it’s been a minute since I looked at Maurer’s line. HOLY SHIT! 16 R in 12 IP on 22 H? Surely we have a bat boy that can put up better numbers for half the price.

Front office and Ned clearly tanking on purpose. There is no justification for ever putting Maurer into a game unless the lead or deficit is double digits. Ever. This guy is the one major league pitcher I've ever seen that I am convinced any asshole off the street could get a hit off of.

Meanwhile, Matt Strahm has also given up 22 hits . . . . . . . in 39 innings! Sporting an ERA of around 2 pitching out of the Pads pen.

What an epic fail of a trade for Moore . . . .

The Royals broadcast is crap for defending Maurer...

Christ.

What was the justification for this trade?

Strahm was a known porn-watcher. Not a culture fit.

There is none. If not for '14 and '15 that trade is a fireable offense.

Hahaha

Dayton Moore is bad at every aspect of his job right now, not sure you should expect any better. He doesn't draft well, doesn't sign players to contracts well, and doesn't trade well. A team like Boston or NY would have fired him already, even 3 years after a world series.

Maurer throws 95-98 routinely on his fastball. No ‘guy off the street’ is hitting that.

That being said, even the shitty major league hitters (yes, I’m talking about you Esky) can hit a straight fastball with no movement.

The sad thing about the tanking angle is I really don’t think that’s it. Ned, for some ungodly reason, really seems to believe in this guy and his ‘stuff’. It’s truly mind boggling.

Um what? The most thing right now is rebuilding the farm system and hes doing that. Theres also some promising young guys playing that he brought in. I hate that hes trying to run the franchise like a ministry but to say hes not doing anything good is idiotic.

@BHIndepMO: A year ago tomorrow, the Royals trade Matt Strahm and a minor leaguer for Trevor Cahill, Ryan Buchter, and Brandon Maurer.

DM didn't care about winning, look who he trots out

"It's been a struggle lately for Brandon" - Ned


Hahhaha! Struggle for his entire time here

I really wish we were going 81-81 it would mean alot going forward

You guys are really turning into a pitchfork wielding group. Yikes.

That trade has worked out horribly, there's no doubt, but at the time the team was sitting in a playoff spot, was on fire, and had a huge gaping hole in the rotation and needed some bullpen help. People were not happy that we were continuing to run Travis Wood out there, we needed another reliable starter, and we needed more bullpen depth beyond Minor and Herrera (who was not having his best year). They acquired a starting pitcher who was pitching well, and two relievers who were under team control for a long time, in Buchter's case about as long as Strahm although he was a lot older.

Funny part is Cahill and Buchter are now pitching really well and doing exactly what we wanted... for the A's, who are in the playoff chase.

On the bright side, we turned Buchter into Fillmyer, who as we saw tonight, has looked pretty good so far.

The terrible free agent signings are what's killed him. I think he's actually done a decent job with trades. He's made a lot of trades that people have been critical of, but often work out better than people expect.

Most of the bad trades he's made have been made to dump guys he's signed to bad contracts... Moss, Soria, Wood, etc.

Another bright side so far is perhaps the deal we did not offer Hosmer this offseason. His OPS has officially sunk below .700 this season.

The same dumb ****s were pissed yesterday for winning.

I'll have to see Maurer get another human being out before I believe you couldn't take him deep.

Semantics

I'll say this about it, he hasn't exactly done a great job lately but yes a big reason I'm not a fan of Dayton is his desire to push his overly religious bullshit onto the team, who makes a team go to an anti porn seminar?

I find that shit aggravating as ****.

Nobody cares what you find aggravating.

There are a lot worse and more offensive stories in the sports world.

Look, here’s the thing on the San Diego trade...

Armed with hindsight, it failed at every level. But that’s not a fair way to evaluate any moves a team makes.

At the time, the Royals moved an injured current asset (Strahm) and a low-level prospect in Ruiz in a deal that seemingly filled all remaining holes. Buchter offered a similar amount of control as Strahm, Cahill has been excellent that year and showed real signs of a major step forward, and Maurer was a lottery ticket.

They continue to give Maurer chances because of his arm talent. They’re hoping he figures something out and becomes an asset they can move for future pieces. On a team that isn’t contending, it’s the type of shot they should be taking.

They’re in a rebuild phase. Blowing some games in the pen is not necessarily a bad outcome if you take the long view.

And re: rebuilding the farm system, they’re going to go from bottom 5 to middle of the pack (15-20) in a single season. That’s strong progress, and they’re not going to graduate much from this farm.

With high picks and a big pool next year and progression from the recent draftees, the Royals would be positioned to be a top 10 system again, which is where they need to be to be on the right track.

Tampa 15 year $1.2B tv deal? $82 per????

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/t...rth-1-billion/

This. I'm unsure what we have in Hahn, but really like Fillmyer's makeup. Buchter was always the better value in that trade and I like what they got in exchange for Moss/Buchter. Like many pitchers, Mauer would probably have a better fastball if he took a little off of it. As is, it's straight. Nobody can "fix" a guy that won't help himself.

Good lord. :eek:

Rays fans didn't even really support their team that well when they were winning. Royals fans have proved they will support their team decently, when losing, and superbly, when winning.

If the Rays are getting THAT, makes me wonder what the Royals can rake in next year . . . . .

@FlannyMLB: Seen a scout from the Phillies (Moustakas) here again along with Yankees, Dodgers and Giants scouts, presumably interested in Francisco Liriano.

You had to question why San Diego would trade those 3 guys for an injured guy and a low level prospect. They knew Maurer had no chance of being anything worthwhile, they also had to know Cahill was a nothing pitcher. The only piece that seemed to be a worthwhile player was Buchter and even he was terrible here. The only thing that saves this from being a major failure was that Buchter was traded for something that looks like a major league player. I can't wait for Brandon Maurer to be off this roster. Ned knows he's done, the players on the team know he's done, the fans know he is done and so does Dayton. Now, if the Royals want that #1 overall pick Maurer continues to pitch.

Because the Padres were completely into rebuild mode and those guys didn’t fit their timeline. Strahm did and Ruiz definitely did.

It’s no different than the Royals moving Jay or Duda or Herrera or Whit Merrifield or Duffy if they trade those two.

Maurer is terrible. This org is not running him out there to try to be bad, though. It’s doing that to try and fix him and flip him for value next year

I gotcha. Last nights game was the first loss I was legitimately pissed off about.

There are no losses worth being pissed about. Things to be pissed about:

Mondesi not playing (unless injured or on leave)

Dozier or Bonifacio not playing

Running Perez into the ground by having him catch too much

Not trading Moustakas and/or Duda

I'll add to the list. I'll be pissed if Merrifield and Duffy are not traded at either the deadline or in the offseason.

Duffy needs to continue rebuilding his value before we trade him off. That deal is still a steal if he can pitch at 2016 levels.

What kind of return are you expecting for them?

Well that's my assumption that he will continue to do so. I think he might be a better fit for an offseason trade.

Well, with a different GM I'd expect a pretty sizable return on both. I don't know enough to get too specific. Of course, I have no faith in Moore to pull off a big trade considering he rarely comes out the winner in trades and has almost no track record since trading Greinke of pulling off big trades. I don't think he has the skill or balls to make the necessary moves.

I thought the big trades for Cueto and Zobrist played out pretty well for us.

Duffy is having the worst season of his career and making $15 mil for the next 2 years so they'd be selling low. What would you give up for him?

Not to mention the Guthrie trade, the Shields trade, and the jury is still out on the Soler trade. Dayton's done a decent job with trades, even though he's often criticized for them. Even for Herrera, he got more than the Mets did for Familia.

Now free agent signings are a whole other deal, he's not done very well there, but as we've seen this offseason teams are starting to get more stingy when it comes to FA because it's such a risk.

I'm talking about selling assets for big returns. He's shown very little ability to do so.