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lewdog 09-19-2021 09:37 PM

Our front 7, outside of Bolton, has been complete trash. Worse than other trashy years.

Mecca 09-19-2021 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15844058)
lack of size, speed and strength.

That's what's going on with Clyde.

Makes you wonder what they saw in this guy.

ChiTown 09-19-2021 09:38 PM

At least we can put that 17-0 bullshit to rest. This is so ****ing frustrating. Good night, Folks. I’m done.

Katie 09-19-2021 09:38 PM

When the game is on the line, you put the ball into the hands of your best players. Clyde? Not the right Choice.

crayzkirk 09-19-2021 09:38 PM

So, bummed out by the loss... And concerned that a depleted team was able to run the ball at will against our defense. The Ravens rushed three and kept in a spy. Hill was invisible, Kelce was Kelce and the running game was predictable and unproductive.

I'm tired of Andy and his "this is on me, we will get this fixed" speeches that come after a pathetic performance. The Chargers and Raiders will destroy this defense and if a three man rush shuts down the "most prolific offense in history", what is the solution?

Gary Cooper 09-19-2021 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefTN (Post 15844110)
Thats NOT on Andy. Mahomes isnt going to keep the ball he has to pass it or hand it off to someone else. Sure it would probably have been safer with Kelce, but the run should have been a safe call…

If anything positive occurs, Reid will trust CEH less going forward. He should already know enough to put the ball in Mahomes' hands.

manchambo 09-19-2021 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 15844016)
The worst part is Denvers in 1st place

Well, tied with the Raiders. But don’t lose heart. KC is a solid wildcard contender.

Mecca 09-19-2021 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15844114)
Our front 7, outside of Bolton, has been complete trash. Worse than other trashy years.

On several read options he went to the same hole a lineman did, leaving a gaping spot.

KCTitus 09-19-2021 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefTN (Post 15844049)
They arent a bad TEAM. They are a team with a BAD Defense.

I dont see the delineation...if we have learned anything one side of the ball doesnt make a SB caliber team. The SB hangover seems to be a real thing, because this team is flat. The defense has actuall regressed and even with OL improvement, they're still struggling to move the ball and score. Without those two early picks, this game is an effing blowout. it's not even close.

You See Us 09-19-2021 09:39 PM

At least now pat will STFU on his pipe dream 20-0 bull $hiit.
Ima be at the game next week. Coming out from LA. Sharters need to get the L.

dirk digler 09-19-2021 09:39 PM

If we lose next week then I will get worried.

KCTitus 09-19-2021 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 15844119)
So, bummed out by the loss... And concerned that a depleted team was able to run the ball at will against our defense. The Ravens rushed three and kept in a spy. Hill was invisible, Kelce was Kelce and the running game was predictable and unproductive.

I'm tired of Andy and his "this is on me, we will get this fixed" speeches that come after a pathetic performance. The Chargers and Raiders will destroy this defense and if a three man rush shuts down the "most prolific offense in history", what is the solution?

Yep...something is seriously wrong here.

acsimon 09-19-2021 09:40 PM

Our defense has to be dead last in every category.

suzzer99 09-19-2021 09:41 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Ravens caved the entire Chiefs defense down. Impressive upfront <a href="https://t.co/hIEtrX2Gow">pic.twitter.com/hIEtrX2Gow</a></p>&mdash; Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1439793725467774977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

tk13 09-19-2021 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15844115)
Makes you wonder what they saw in this guy.

Mahomes wanted him. Veach obviously made the call but it was pretty well documented he was the guy Mahomes wanted more than anyone else.

Mecca 09-19-2021 09:42 PM

Also Joe Thuney who makes OT money for knocked around.

KC_Connection 09-19-2021 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 15844100)
Andy still insecure about clock management trying to run clock there. Really bad decision.

Mahomes knows how to control a game and run clock there. No idea why he isn’t just trusting him at this point of his career.

New World Order 09-19-2021 09:42 PM

The O is fine. The d looks like pure aids right now

bevischief 09-19-2021 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15844111)
I want to see more McKinnon.


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And Gore.

stumppy 09-19-2021 09:43 PM

This defense has given 65 points in 2 games. 2 ****ing games.

If it wasn't for luck the Chiefs would be 0-2.

I'm sick of watching that little ****ing RB run right into the o-line. He's too small, and too slow. I can't believe they keep starting him.

I got a $100 bill that says Mckinnon would be a better RB than that slow ass midget.

ThyKingdomCome15 09-19-2021 09:43 PM

We fumbled that game away. Ravens win their Super Bowl.

Gary Cooper 09-19-2021 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15844153)
Mahomes wanted him. Veach obviously made the call but it was pretty well documented he was the guy Mahomes wanted more than anyone else.

Too bad Mahomes didn't want Metcalf instead of Hardman.

KC_Connection 09-19-2021 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 15844134)
If we lose next week then I will get worried.

Were you worried when Andy was gifting losses to the Texans a few years ago on conservative playcalling during the SB year? Until Mahomes leaves the team, there’s little reason to be worried about much.

Red Dawg 09-19-2021 09:44 PM

We are not good on defense. 2018 All over again. May as well turn Mahomes loose. We can't stop shit.

Jerm 09-19-2021 09:45 PM

Can’t wait to see the explanation why Thornhill got little to no playing time….

Gravedigger 09-19-2021 09:45 PM

Other coaches run the ball to be safe in crunch time, they don't have Mahomes. Use Mahomes and we'll win instead of losing ugly.

dirk digler 09-19-2021 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 15844153)
Mahomes wanted him. Veach obviously made the call but it was pretty well documented he was the guy Mahomes wanted more than anyone else.

I loved the CEH pick at the time because I just watched him dominant in the college FB playoffs. I remember watching him and thinking he would be a perfect fit for us.

KC_Connection 09-19-2021 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 15844183)
We are not good on defense. 2018 All over again. May as well turn Mahomes loose. We can't stop shit.

If Mahomes is throwing the ball 40-50 times tonight, that’s an easy win.

Valiant 09-19-2021 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 15844129)
I dont see the delineation...if we have learned anything one side of the ball doesnt make a SB caliber team. The SB hangover seems to be a real thing, because this team is flat. The defense has actuall regressed and even with OL improvement, they're still struggling to move the ball and score. Without those two early picks, this game is an effing blowout. it's not even close.

There were other problems that were not addressed. We didn't get rid of beinemy theenemy. He holds back Patrick and this offense.

We are soft. The coaches don't prepare them.

Spags not adjusting. Vanilla defense. Our players all game were getting fooled. Rush in and hit Lamar, he is the main weapon. Get rid of hitchens. Clark whenever we can take the cap hit. Well unless we find a DC who can utilize them.

Ceh, the guy keeps regressing. We need to draft a RB next year in the first few rounds.

Game was won, we started playing stupid against an injury laden team.

Players need to realize they will get everyone's best shot this year. We are the team they are measured against in the AFC.

Hoover 09-19-2021 09:46 PM

Yes, the defense sucks, but that loss is on Reid.

I know that CEH was a first round pick, but our offensive line wasn't kicking ass late in the game. Why take the ball out of Mahomes' hands? Horrible decision.

dirk digler 09-19-2021 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15844182)
Were you worried when Andy was gifting losses to the Texans a few years ago on conservative playcalling during the SB year? Until Mahomes leaves the team, there’s little reason to be worried about much.

I remember being a little worried early in that season but not because of the offense but the D was pretty bad.

KC_Connection 09-19-2021 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravedigger (Post 15844192)
Other coaches run the ball to be safe in crunch time, they don't have Mahomes. Use Mahomes and we'll win instead of losing ugly.

It’s like giving the ball to JR Smith over LeBron James to close a basketball game. What are you doing?

crayzkirk 09-19-2021 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15844182)
Were you worried when Andy was gifting losses to the Texans a few years ago on conservative playcalling during the SB year? Until Mahomes leaves the team, there’s little reason to be worried about much.

For some reason, Dan Marino comes to mind...

blake1771 09-19-2021 09:50 PM

Hunt being a dumb d*ck is what led us to pick CEH. So F him too while we are at it.

ku_jhawk23 09-19-2021 09:51 PM

this loss is on the bullshit call against HB late in the game. We crush Jackson, but they are bailed out on one of the worst calls in history. Shocker.

I have never heard Al Michaels watch a replay of a penalty and say "really?" and ask Collinsworth, who says "i don't know what penalties are anymore"

ChiTown 09-19-2021 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blake1771 (Post 15844233)
Hunt being a dumb d*ck is what led us to pick CEH. So F him too while we are at it.

Kareem Hunt changes this Offense completely. He was the perfect fit.

manchambo 09-19-2021 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15844216)
It’s like giving the ball to JR Smith over LeBron James to close a basketball game. What are you doing?

But, even with Mahomes, you have to run sometimes.

Mecca 09-19-2021 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 15844196)
I loved the CEH pick at the time because I just watched him dominant in the college FB playoffs. I remember watching him and thinking he would be a perfect fit for us.

He was on a team with a bunch of NFL talent where no one prepped for him..

KC_Connection 09-19-2021 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 15844227)
For some reason, Dan Marino comes to mind...

The defense was absolutely abysmal, Andy stopped throwing the ball when they got a lead (Again!), and Mahomes still had the team in a position to win at the end before Andy called for a run with some running back who will be out of the league by 2025. They’ll be fine. Well as long as they trust in Mahomes.

crispystl 09-19-2021 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15844111)
I want to see more McKinnon.


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I have the feeling you will next week.


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DRM08 09-19-2021 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ku_jhawk23 (Post 15844239)
this loss is on the bullshit call against HB late in the game. We crush Jackson, but they are bailed out on one of the worst calls in history. Shocker.

I have never heard Al Michaels watch a replay of a penalty and say "really?" and ask Collinsworth, who says "i don't know what penalties are anymore"

And right before that, KC’s third down play got killed when the Ravens dude grabbed Tyreek’s jersey with no penalty called.

Gary Cooper 09-19-2021 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 15844242)
Kareem Hunt changes this Offense completely. He was the perfect fit.

He'd be gone after his rookie contract. We couldn't afford to pay him big money for an expendable position.

KC_Connection 09-19-2021 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manchambo (Post 15844243)
But, even with Mahomes, you have to run sometimes.

And sometimes JR Smith has to shoot when he’s open. The trick is knowing when to do it.

louie aguiar 09-19-2021 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 15844242)
Kareem Hunt changes this Offense completely. He was the perfect fit.

Yep, Kareem’s physical style is sorely missed. We miss players that play with passion

Pasta Little Brioni 09-19-2021 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15844216)
It’s like giving the ball to JR Smith over LeBron James to close a basketball game. What are you doing?

Pretty much. They were helpless against our spread.

ChiTown 09-19-2021 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manchambo (Post 15844243)
But, even with Mahomes, you have to run sometimes.

Not with the ****ing game on the line and while Pat is carving their D up. They couldn’t stop him on that drive. We would have been inside the 10 yard line within the next 2-3 plays at the rate we were driving the ball via the pass.

Coochie liquor 09-19-2021 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 15843672)
Next play CEH run for 1yd?

So close...

Pasta Little Brioni 09-19-2021 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manchambo (Post 15844243)
But, even with Mahomes, you have to run sometimes.

Yes but not at that time

KC_Connection 09-19-2021 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 15844276)
Not with the ****ing game on the line and while Pat is carving their D up. They couldn’t stop him on that drive. We would have been inside the 10 yard line within the next 2-3 plays at the rate we were driving the ball via the pass.

Andy was worried about running the clock, but Mahomes is more than aware of that shit. He would have ensured it himself while getting into the RZ.

Most of the few games this team has lost in the past 3 years have been due to Andy not trusting in Mahomes enough. It remains bizarre to me.

manchambo 09-19-2021 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 15844287)
Yes but not at that time

IDK, that was a bad fumble, but I’m not sure how the coaches would have predicted it.

stevieray 09-19-2021 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 15843943)
I miss Damien Williams.

I hear that.

I also miss the CEH before the injury.

ChiTown 09-19-2021 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manchambo (Post 15844310)
IDK, that was a bad fumble, but I’m not sure how the coaches would have predicted it.

By not giving to a guy who was going to give you next to nothing on a play that had no chance.

Rain Man 09-19-2021 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manchambo (Post 15844243)
But, even with Mahomes, you have to run sometimes.

I'm not sure I agree with that. The NFL today is all about passing. I'd be interested to watch a game where we passed on every down.

KC_Connection 09-19-2021 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 15844328)
By not giving to a guy who was going to give you next to nothing on a play that had no chance.

Had to run that clock on a negative value play though!

Ghost of Maslowski 09-19-2021 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manchambo (Post 15844310)
IDK, that was a bad fumble, but I’m not sure how the coaches would have predicted it.

they might have noticed the Ravens had 7-8 guys lined up in the box right on the LOS, seemingly in a run blitz, and oh i dunno, told Pat to audible or call a time out or something

instead they put CEH in a position to fail, again, and again he succeeded at it

Pasta Little Brioni 09-19-2021 10:19 PM

We actually had favorable officiating from Clete and blew it. Some bizarre and awful calls on both sides. The last one on Mathieu though hurt...

DRM08 09-19-2021 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 15844471)
We actually had favorable officiating from Clete and blew it. Some bizarre and awful calls on both sides. The last one on Mathieu though hurt...

Right before the Badger phantom penalty, the Ravens got away with grabbing Tyreek’s jersey on 3rd down. So they killed the KC drive and boosted the Ravens drive with those two ref decisions.

RaidersOftheCellar 09-19-2021 10:31 PM

It seems like we always lose when the fanbase is extra overconfident.

Frustrating as hell to lose due to an untimely fumble, but one early season loss is nothing to freak out over.

Keep it in perspective. We won’t be facing a great rushing offense every week. The offense is a machine and the OL will keep getting better. The D will make adjustments.

PurpleJesus28 09-19-2021 10:32 PM

Is McKinnon only allowed,like one touch per game ? Sorry,if its been discussed.

Rain Man 09-19-2021 10:35 PM

Are we sure we really lost? I feel like we should check the scoring again.

KChiefs1 09-20-2021 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acsimon (Post 15844144)
Our defense has to be dead last in every category.


If not it’s close.


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KChiefs1 09-20-2021 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JudasRising20 (Post 15844173)
Too bad Mahomes didn't want Metcalf instead of Hardman.


Chiefs should definitely, Aaron Rodgers Mahomes because he doesn’t know shit about personnel.


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KChiefs1 09-20-2021 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 15844242)
Kareem Hunt changes this Offense completely. He was the perfect fit.


He really was the perfect RB for this team.


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R8RFAN 09-20-2021 03:30 AM

i went to bed at the half because I had to go to work now. I knew they would give you problems. Now you need to bow to your Raider Masters .

straycash 09-20-2021 04:12 AM

Bunch of grown ass men crying, you Don 't deserve Mahomes

Ghost of Maslowski 09-20-2021 09:04 AM

https://i.postimg.cc/GmK9dps0/E-t-T-rb-WYAI-Rq-H.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/sDR2WWYd/E-t-UBz-WQAYSdyh.png

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes passing chart and zone chart per Next Gen Stats. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ravens?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Ravens</a> <a href="https://t.co/71YHeukKEs">pic.twitter.com/71YHeukKEs</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1439836936328433664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Rainbarrel 09-20-2021 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 15844838)
i went to bed at the half because I had to go to work now. I knew they would give you problems. Now you need to bow to your Raider Masters .

:hail: Gruden 10 more years!

Ming the Merciless 09-20-2021 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by straycash (Post 15844842)
Bunch of grown ass men crying, you Don 't deserve Mahomes


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ChiTown 09-20-2021 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by straycash (Post 15844842)
Bunch of grown ass men crying, you Don 't deserve Mahomes

http://i.imgur.com/VwF92Pj.jpg

ChiefsCountry 09-20-2021 09:51 AM

I blame Halfwit for the shitty GDT.

KChiefs1 09-20-2021 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost of Maslowski (Post 15845224)
https://i.postimg.cc/GmK9dps0/E-t-T-rb-WYAI-Rq-H.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/sDR2WWYd/E-t-UBz-WQAYSdyh.png

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes passing chart and zone chart per Next Gen Stats. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ravens?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Ravens</a> <a href="https://t.co/71YHeukKEs">pic.twitter.com/71YHeukKEs</a></p>— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1439836936328433664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


How about his QB rating when targeting Mecole Hardman?


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Deberg_1990 09-20-2021 02:28 PM

Ravens on 3!


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">John Harbaugh was fired UP after Baltimore’s win over Kansas City ��<br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/Ravens?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Ravens</a>) <br> <a href="https://t.co/KhD2I50M4x">pic.twitter.com/KhD2I50M4x</a></p>&mdash; Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) <a href="https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1440010797250383883?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hammock Parties 09-20-2021 02:34 PM

See what a kingpin we are now for teams to knock down. LMAO

They gonna be singing a different tune in the postseason.

Hammock Parties 09-20-2021 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 15844559)
It seems like we always lose when the fanbase is extra overconfident.

We have only been overconfident three times in the last 21 games for sure! ROFL

lcarus 09-20-2021 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15845830)
How about his QB rating when targeting Mecole Hardman?


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It actually went pretty well last night. Aside from that one down the sideline that could've been a touchdown but Hardman thought "Look for the ball? What would that accomplish exactly?"

ThaVirus 09-20-2021 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 15846069)
It actually went pretty well last night. Aside from that one down the sideline that could've been a touchdown but Hardman thought "Look for the ball? What would that accomplish exactly?"

LMAO OMG. I had totally forgotten about that. The guy I said just not a natural footballer.

Though that pass was on Mahomes. He should have put that one more toward the sideline/pylon from what I remember.

Easy 6 09-20-2021 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15846039)
Ravens on 3!


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">John Harbaugh was fired UP after Baltimore’s win over Kansas City ��<br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/Ravens?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Ravens</a>) <br> <a href="https://t.co/KhD2I50M4x">pic.twitter.com/KhD2I50M4x</a></p>&mdash; Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) <a href="https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1440010797250383883?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Boo this man

Deberg_1990 09-20-2021 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 15846272)
Boo this man

He’s a hell of a coach. Wouldn’t mind him after Andy if he ever leaves Baltimore

Easy 6 09-20-2021 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 15844316)
I hear that.

I also miss the CEH before the injury.

That hip injury last year is the only thing I can think of to explain what’s going on

But you have to think the coaches would’ve picked up on it through OTAs and all of camp, and taken appropriate measures… how could they possibly have missed the signs he was compromised?

It’s really hard to understand, last year he had MUCH better…

Burst
Lateral jukes
Stop and start ability

R8RFAN 09-20-2021 05:09 PM

i mean shit, if you can't go undefeated at least 1 time with PM at QB then you suck balls


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