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Chief_N_Bama 01-27-2024 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17365776)
I think people are looking at the regular season as a potential predictor of what could happen in th8s game. Whether you want to believe it or not. The Chiefs struggled for a large chunk of this season while the Ravens rolled through the regular season and their 1st playoff game. You said it yourself Lamar Jackson is much improved. The defense is much improved. You answered your own question. The reason why the media is predicting a Ravens win in a game the normally lose is because the QB is much improved. As well as tue defense. Add that with the fact the Chiefs haven't been the normal Chiefs this season and you get some being skeptical. Now with that said everyone k iws who Patrick Mahomes is and no one would be surprised if Mahomes went nuts and the Chiefs won.

This isn't true. No one is saying Lamar is the reason the ravens will win. It's the ravens defense and the fact that the Chiefs offense has not been its normally dominant self. But no one is saying that LAMAR is the reason the ravens win tomorrow.

Which is odd for a "2 time MVP".

FloridaMan88 01-27-2024 02:06 PM

Texans/Ravens game is re-airing on NFL Network.

Anyone who is afraid of the Ravens as a supposed insurmountable force… should watch this.

It was a 17-10 game entering the 4th quarter.

Houston had 7 pre-snap penalties, terrible special teams, etc.

VAChief 01-27-2024 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 17365773)
I’m convinced that Toney and Skyy were constantly screwing up and causing the entire Mahomes offensive engine to grind to halt. Imagine having to play QB with receivers that aren’t where they’re supposed to be, aren’t doing what they’re supposed to do, and screwing up more than just their route. No big surprise here but since Skyy and Toney took a seat the offense has at least looked competent and Mahomes hasn’t dropped back and looked surprised and hesitated at what he was seeing. That was happening a lot until they stopped playing.

Pretty sure there is a correlation.

James gets a big catch this week.

ReynardMuldrake 01-27-2024 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 17365152)
One of the best FTF segments ever. Hilarious chemistry and hard hitting analysis from Nick and Brou. If you want to boost your confidence and your low T watch Nick breakdown how Spags has owned Lamar and the second half of games right here, right now.

https://youtu.be/HF_VlwsrNd4?si=VadTHGl3y-ei8NTI

What was the Instagram post @ 18:00?

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-27-2024 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RavensMania (Post 17365575)
doesn't mean anything if we don't win the Super Bowl. I'm just backing up my team because you and a bunch of Chiefs fans are knocking them for no apparent reason.

I mean, do you think you had a harder schedule than the Ravens did. We always have a harder division to get through. Always. Maybe you'll finally have some competition with Jim Harbaugh taking over the Chargers.

No knock on the Chiefs though, because I like the talent and coaching you have. I've always been a Mahomes fan.

See, after the run we have had 3 of 4 Superbowls, winning 2, 6 straight AFCCGs, Mahomes and Kelce all over the TV, and now Taylor Swift this year... Every regular season game for the Chiefs this year was the other team's Superbowl. Almost everygame was in primetime and it was their biggest game of the year.

St. Patty's Fire 01-27-2024 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17365712)
Wut?

he keeps saying something unintelligible about his micropenis. bmore shit

St. Patty's Fire 01-27-2024 02:11 PM

is that guy stavros halkias

Pepe Silvia 01-27-2024 02:11 PM

1 Day left.

T-post Tom 01-27-2024 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 17365773)
I’m convinced that Toney and Skyy were constantly screwing up and causing the entire Mahomes offensive engine to grind to halt. Imagine having to play QB with receivers that aren’t where they’re supposed to be, aren’t doing what they’re supposed to do, and screwing up more than just their route. No big surprise here but since Skyy and Toney took a seat the offense has at least looked competent and Mahomes hasn’t dropped back and looked surprised and hesitated at what he was seeing. That was happening a lot until they stopped playing.

Pretty sure there is a correlation.

Moore may survive until next year, but the KT experiment is likely over. Definitely look for him to be gone whether or not they can get any draft compensation from someone. Skyy seems more ( :) ) likely to be on the roster next trading camp. Really hope that he figures it out.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-27-2024 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17365595)
We talk with our pads.

I guess some of your post are understandable if it is that time of the month...

Tribal Warfare 01-27-2024 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pepe Silvia (Post 17365805)
1 Day left.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">THIS. TIME. TOMORROW. ⏰ <a href="https://t.co/uAVA18O4Mw">pic.twitter.com/uAVA18O4Mw</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1751334261167173967?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

pugsnotdrugs19 01-27-2024 02:14 PM

From the Athletic NFL football podcast… The Chiefs defense has allowed one positive quarterback scramble on plays they’ve blitzed this entire season. ONE. And it’s largely because they zone blitz with eyes on the QB.

The Ravens are ****ed.

Tribal Warfare 01-27-2024 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17365808)
I guess some of your post are understandable if it is that time of the month...

That explains the micropenis

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-27-2024 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 17365740)
I think we have a good chance tomorrow, but nobody seems very concerned about the loss of Thuney. He's damn good.

Well, in fairness Allegretti is probably one of the top 3 backups in the league.

Raiderhater 01-27-2024 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17365712)
Wut?

Dude has been bragging about his abnormally tiny dick for a while now. Makes zero sense to me. There should probably be some mod abuse username change though.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-27-2024 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17365750)
And still held the Texans to 10 pts with 7 of thise coming on a punt return. But CJ Stroud is trash and the Texans aren't good. It was in the playoffs though so h9w do my micropeniss view that win?

You say the Chiefs victory vs. the Bills is diminished because they were missing 2 starters from the week before, yet the Texans were without two of their top WR's... LMAO

T-post Tom 01-27-2024 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17365811)
From the Athletic NFL football podcast… The Chiefs defense has allowed one positive quarterback scramble on plays they’ve glitched this entire season. ONE. And it’s largely because they zone blitz with eyes on the QB.

The Ravens are ****ed.

So looking forward to Spag’s magnum opus tomorrow.

RavensMania 01-27-2024 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17365597)
There’s a difference between “knocking” and providing context to “look how many 10-win teams they beat!”

BTW, the Jags didn’t win 10 games.

I credited the Lions and 49ers wins as impressive wins.

Beating the Browns with Dorian Thompson-Robinson at QB? Nope.

The Texans in CJ Stroud’s first start, and then without 2/3 of their WR starters? Not really.

There’s always context involved.

And sometimes stats don’t tell the whole story, especially in samples as small as a single NFL season.

The Ravens have had a great year and are a great team. If they beat the Chiefs, they will win the Super Bowl having the best record in the league and having head-to-head wins against every member of the conference championship weekend. It would stamp them as one of the best teams in recent NFL history.

We’ll see what happens.

Confidence from the Chiefs end stems from:
1) an excellent defense that performed within fractional points of the Ravens immovable force D

2) an offense that consistently moved the ball but was held back by penalties and drops

3) having Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, who have put the blowtorch to top defenses repeatedly during their time together, even when numbers like DVOA indicated they can’t/should not.

4) styles making fights. The chiefs defensive style and personnel is the style and personnel that gives you the best chance against the Ravens offense. The Chiefs have an offensive mastermind and elite-elite QB who perform extremely well against blitzing, zone-heavy defenses.

And
5) this is our board. If you can’t read confidence from the Chiefs fans and critiques of your own team, maybe this isn’t for you. And you should go chug some antifreeze.

I agree with almost everything you said and can relate to it being your board. I totally undestand that.

Also, it wouldn't surprise me if we lost to the Chiefs, but I don't think it will happen. Reid and Mahomes together is a terrific team. Lamar is also a different animal this season with a better cast of characters than he's had in previous seasons. I mean all he's had is Andrews prior to this season.

2019 we had Hollywood Brown (rookie) with a nail in his foot. Our best receiver was Willie Sneed and a half dead crabtree.

FloridaMan88 01-27-2024 02:33 PM

Another 6 TD’s day coming for Mahomes?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs are now 4.5-point underdogs at the Ravens at <a href="https://twitter.com/CircaSports?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CircaSports</a>.<br><br>If that line holds, it would be tied for the biggest underdog Patrick Mahomes has ever been (+4.5 at PIT, Week 2 of 2018 season)</p>&mdash; Ben Fawkes (@BFawkes22) <a href="https://twitter.com/BFawkes22/status/1751318136631247349?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Coochie liquor 01-27-2024 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RavensMania (Post 17365570)
it's ok, I'm counting a bunch of the Chiefs wins this season as losses because they barely skated by. I'm also counting the colts, both Steelers games and the Browns loss as a win for the Ravens.

Guess we went undefeated.

Well then, tomorrow will match the Patriots 19-1 record! Enjoy it! People still talk about that game….

RunKC 01-27-2024 02:43 PM

I think the Chiefs win and it will come down to the last drive

Chiefs 27
Ravens 23

Coochie liquor 01-27-2024 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17365712)
Wut?

I’ve been wondering wtf she’s saying too. You can tell she’s super upset and typing/responding super fast, because her inability to proofread her posts is evident. She BIG mad!! She wants her flowers before she’s earned them. Typical…

ChiefsCountry 01-27-2024 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17365851)
Another 6 TD’s day coming for Mahomes?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs are now 4.5-point underdogs at the Ravens at <a href="https://twitter.com/CircaSports?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CircaSports</a>.<br><br>If that line holds, it would be tied for the biggest underdog Patrick Mahomes has ever been (+4.5 at PIT, Week 2 of 2018 season)</p>&mdash; Ben Fawkes (@BFawkes22) <a href="https://twitter.com/BFawkes22/status/1751318136631247349?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mahomes is something like 9-0 as underdog against the spread as well.

Coochie liquor 01-27-2024 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhater (Post 17365822)
Dude has been bragging about his abnormally tiny dick for a while now. Makes zero sense to me. There should probably be some mod abuse username change though.

Shortravenmicropeniss

ThaVirus 01-27-2024 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17365851)
Another 6 TD’s day coming for Mahomes? >

OMG, I WOULD JIZZ

smithandrew051 01-27-2024 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire (Post 17365802)
he keeps saying something unintelligible about his micropenis. bmore shit

How small we talking on a scale of deodorant from travel size to spray can?

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-27-2024 03:09 PM

Is this the most insecure fanbase to shit talk this board?

After such a successful season, you'd think they wouldn't feel the need to travel to the enemies board and puff their chest out as much as they have. Like, there's excitement for your team and then there's all of this shit over the past week.

Coochie liquor 01-27-2024 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17365914)
How small we talking on a scale of deodorant from travel size to spray can?

I’m thinking Chapstick, by the post history.

Tribal Warfare 01-27-2024 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17365851)
Another 6 TD’s day coming for Mahomes?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs are now 4.5-point underdogs at the Ravens at <a href="https://twitter.com/CircaSports?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CircaSports</a>.<br><br>If that line holds, it would be tied for the biggest underdog Patrick Mahomes has ever been (+4.5 at PIT, Week 2 of 2018 season)</p>&mdash; Ben Fawkes (@BFawkes22) <a href="https://twitter.com/BFawkes22/status/1751318136631247349?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And multiple turnovers by Lamar

kcpasco 01-27-2024 03:22 PM

We are gonna win. If not I’m gonna say **** it and be grateful we have Mahomes for at least another 10 years. Let’s go Chiefs.

dannybcaitlyn 01-27-2024 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17365821)
Well, in fairness Allegretti is probably one of the top 3 backups in the league.

Exactly, He could be a starter on a number of teams.

Chief_N_Bama 01-27-2024 03:32 PM

Here is something to consider.

Scores at the half in the previous 4 matchups (ravens defensive ranking):

2018: 17/10 CHIEFS (2nd)
2019: 23/6 CHIEFS (3rd)
2020: 27/10 CHIEFS (2nd)
2021: 21/17 CHIEFS (19th)

BWillie 01-27-2024 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 17365741)
Wtf, lol.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs now officially have ruled out WR Kadarius Toney for Sunday’s AFC Championship game due to a hip injury and personal reasons.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1751284087887684019?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Holy shit we are winning the superbowl. Thats a big blow to the Ravens. Lets ****in goooo

BWillie 01-27-2024 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17365883)
I think the Chiefs win and it will come down to the last drive

Chiefs 27
Ravens 23

Nobody is scoring 27 points in this game

Coochie liquor 01-27-2024 03:44 PM

Lamearm: Yo coach dawg, nahmean man… mu****as is rushin me in the backfield nahmean… ion No if you seein the shit I’m seein dawg nahmean man… yo dawg, we should start throwing to the interstate internat… middle part of the field man… nahmean those long ummm dever…detri…. Plays that take a minute to happen, nahmean just ain’t working right now dawg. Ya heard me?

Baltimore OC & HC: God DAMNIT…. LAMEARM YOURE A ****ING GENIOUS!!!

Chief_N_Bama 01-27-2024 03:46 PM

Mahomes career passer rating versus ravens defense: 119.1 (71.78% 12/2)
Lamar career passer rating versus the Chiefs defense: 78.9 (56.2% 4/2)

Chief_N_Bama 01-27-2024 03:51 PM

The only team that Lamar has a LOWER passer rating against is the Steelers (66.8). And Lamar is 2-4 against the Steelers.

So hes 3-7 against the teams that he struggles passing the ball on.

Hark Clunt 01-27-2024 03:51 PM

23-21 chiefs.

it's 23-15 and the ravens score a touchdown with only a few seconds left. chiefsplanet has a big, collective diarrhea. zay flowers then drops the 2 point conversion to end the game. sneed does the incomplete signal to his face. tony romo goes "oh my god, jim, how did he let that slip? hold on, let's look at the replay here." many purple tears begin to pour. taylor swift and momma kelce begin swag surfing. travis kelce screams "one more game, we aren't done!" into jim nantz's microphone.

ChiefRocka 01-27-2024 03:53 PM

I'm got 20-17 on a Butker last second FG.

-King- 01-27-2024 03:53 PM

Would sending corner blitzes at Lamar early and often be a bad idea? Force him to escape to one side of the field so even if he runs, at least he's not in the middle of the field where he's most dangerous. And it would force him to make quick reads which he would struggle at.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-27-2024 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 17365740)
I think we have a good chance tomorrow, but nobody seems very concerned about the loss of Thuney. He's damn good.

Look at the betting odds for Ravens pass rushers to get a sack. Vegas doesn't think they are going to get many.

staylor26 01-27-2024 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17365964)
Would sending corner blitzes at Lamar early and often be a bad idea? Force him to escape to one side of the field so even if he runs, at least he's not in the middle of the field where he's most dangerous. And it would force him to make quick reads which he would struggle at.

I would expect at least a couple of those.

RunKC 01-27-2024 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17365970)
Look at the betting odds for Ravens pass rushers to get a sack. Vegas doesn't think they are going to get many.

Bc that DL isn't that good. They couldn't sack Stroud one time and only had 4 QB hits. That's with the Texans garbage OL outside of Tunsil.

They're gonna have to blitz to get pressure and we all know how it goes when you blitz Mahomes

BWillie 01-27-2024 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17365964)
Would sending corner blitzes at Lamar early and often be a bad idea? Force him to escape to one side of the field so even if he runs, at least he's not in the middle of the field where he's most dangerous. And it would force him to make quick reads which he would struggle at.

I suspect we see that at leastb5 times

duncan_idaho 01-27-2024 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama (Post 17365957)
Mahomes career passer rating versus ravens defense: 119.1 (71.78% 12/2)
Lamar career passer rating versus the Chiefs defense: 78.9 (56.2% 4/2)

And that is coming against much worse Chiefs' defense.

Yes, Lamar Jackson is playing in a better passing scheme with better weapons than he has ever had. But the Chiefs have a much better secondary, too, with two All-Pro level corners headlining it and no easily exploited pieces.

duncan_idaho 01-27-2024 04:32 PM

Re: the actual game, I am not concerned about Mahomes, or Kelce handling the confusing stuff the Ravens throw at them. My biggest concern is if the Chiefs WRs can read what's happening the same way as Mahomes and make the same adjustments/right adjustments. Does Rashee Rice run the hot when his guy comes off the corner? Does Noah Gray? Does Valdes-Scantling find open spaces in the secondary during the blitz, as the coverage rotates (and does he catch the ball like last week?).

Another and far smaller concern is how the Chiefs OL hands off defenders. With Thuney in there I'd have zero concern. Allegretti is a vet who knows Creed Humphrey well, but he doesn't have a lot of reps with Donovan Smith in live action. Hopefully he's ready.

FringeNC 01-27-2024 04:41 PM

Remember last year when we went into SF and absolutely destroyed what I think was the #1 defense at the time. Until we shut it down late, we were averaging over 10 yards per play.

Zebedee DuBois 01-27-2024 04:41 PM

I expect a close game, tied or one score at half time.
In the second half, when the mental pressure on the Ravens starts to increase, mistakes will be made and the Chiefs will win by 7-10 points.

OneWinningDrive 01-27-2024 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17365986)
They're gonna have to blitz to get pressure and we all know how it goes when you blitz Mahomes

Out of all of the unhinged delusionals here, you're right up there. The Ravens have 44 sacks with four or fewer pass rushers, which is nine more than any other team in the NFL. If there's a recipe for flustering Mahomes, it's exactly that.

RINGLEADER 01-27-2024 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17366005)
Re: the actual game, I am not concerned about Mahomes, or Kelce handling the confusing stuff the Ravens throw at them. My biggest concern is if the Chiefs WRs can read what's happening the same way as Mahomes and make the same adjustments/right adjustments. Does Rashee Rice run the hot when his guy comes off the corner? Does Noah Gray? Does Valdes-Scantling find open spaces in the secondary during the blitz, as the coverage rotates (and does he catch the ball like last week?).

Another and far smaller concern is how the Chiefs OL hands off defenders. With Thuney in there I'd have zero concern. Allegretti is a vet who knows Creed Humphrey well, but he doesn't have a lot of reps with Donovan Smith in live action. Hopefully he's ready.

There will undoubtedly be some goofs that are rooted in the examples you provided. What will determine success or failure is if Mahomes and the Chiefs can overcome those penalties and sacks when they do happen.

The difference the last couple weeks has been staying ahead of the chains and, when someone does goof up (like the drops on the first two passes vs the Dolphins that got us in a 3rd and 10), can we overcome it to keep the chains moving (the Kelce conversion on that same opening drive).

Again, I think your concerns are warranted and the Ravens will be disruptive now and then. If the Chiefs overcome those moments then we’ll be fine. If drives stall because of it then that will be a whole other story.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-27-2024 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17365964)
Would sending corner blitzes at Lamar early and often be a bad idea? Force him to escape to one side of the field so even if he runs, at least he's not in the middle of the field where he's most dangerous. And it would force him to make quick reads which he would struggle at.

That is exactly the game plan
watch the Eagles game and look at what that did to Hurts (a smarter QB than Lamar)

RINGLEADER 01-27-2024 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 17366015)
Remember last year when we went into SF and absolutely destroyed what I think was the #1 defense at the time. Until we shut it down late, we were averaging over 10 yards per play.

Would love to see Mahomes carve them up in the same way.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-27-2024 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366023)
Out of all of the unhinged delusionals here, you're right up there. The Ravens have 44 sacks with four or fewer pass rushers, which is nine more than any other team in the NFL. If there's a recipe for flustering Mahomes, it's exactly that.

It's not unhinged, Vegas odds are insinuating that it will be hard for Baltimore to sack Mahomes. I believe we are the 2nd least sacked team in the league, just behind the Bills. Even with Thuney out, our Oline should be ok. Also, statistics show most of your sacks were against QB's that get sacked more than average.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-27-2024 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366023)
Out of all of the unhinged delusionals here, you're right up there. The Ravens have 44 sacks with four or fewer pass rushers, which is nine more than any other team in the NFL. If there's a recipe for flustering Mahomes, it's exactly that.

Your pressure rate sucks ass (22nd)and Mahomes is the best in the business at avoiding sacks from pressure...you do realize that right?

Again you feasted on absolutely DOGSHIT QBs racking up cheap sacks and turnovers that an elite QB would avoid

Pasta Little Brioni 01-27-2024 04:56 PM

Ravens are soft. Prove me wrong...

Lzen 01-27-2024 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17365337)
Very reminiscent of the Bills fans of 2020 and '21... December momentums and point differential... oh, and the '19 Ravens, but I guess they'll tell you they were delusional that year and it's totally different this time. :shrug:

And last year's 60 sack Eagles team that had all those sacks in the Super Bowl.

Didn't that eagles team have over 70 sacks?
And yeah, this is very reminiscent of that game. It was pointed out before that game that many of those sacks came in about 3 games
Against bad Qbs.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-27-2024 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17366045)
Didn't that eagles team have over 70 sacks?
And yeah, this is very reminiscent of that game. It was pointed out before that game that many of those sacks came in about 3 games
Against bad Qbs.

They sure did....That was also a better team than this Baltimore squad and those fans were even this clueless about what would happen

duncan_idaho 01-27-2024 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366023)
Out of all of the unhinged delusionals here, you're right up there. The Ravens have 44 sacks with four or fewer pass rushers, which is nine more than any other team in the NFL. If there's a recipe for flustering Mahomes, it's exactly that.

And who are they trying to sack, sir?

They're trying to sack the QB of the team that had the lowest sack percentage in the league even with all of its offensive issues, who has been consistently elite at not being sacked throughout his career.

Throw in that he is protected by one of the better pass-blocking OLs in the NFL, and the prediction the Ravens will have to blitz to get him on the ground is pretty darn sensible.

The only out here is that the Ravens are able to get Madubuike consistently whipping Allegretti. He's no Joe Thuney, but he's also a quality veteran with starting experience and just held up well against Ed Oliver last week. And has Creed Humphrey to his right for help if he needs it on pass sets.

StalkRavenMad 01-27-2024 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17365597)
There’s a difference between “knocking” and providing context to “look how many 10-win teams they beat!”

BTW, the Jags didn’t win 10 games.

I credited the Lions and 49ers wins as impressive wins.

Beating the Browns with Dorian Thompson-Robinson at QB? Nope.

The Texans in CJ Stroud’s first start, and then without 2/3 of their WR starters? Not really.

There’s always context involved.

And sometimes stats don’t tell the whole story, especially in samples as small as a single NFL season.

The Ravens have had a great year and are a great team. If they beat the Chiefs, they will win the Super Bowl having the best record in the league and having head-to-head wins against every member of the conference championship weekend. It would stamp them as one of the best teams in recent NFL history.

We’ll see what happens.

Confidence from the Chiefs end stems from:
1) an excellent defense that performed within fractional points of the Ravens immovable force D

2) an offense that consistently moved the ball but was held back by penalties and drops

3) having Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, who have put the blowtorch to top defenses repeatedly during their time together, even when numbers like DVOA indicated they can’t/should not.

4) styles making fights. The chiefs defensive style and personnel is the style and personnel that gives you the best chance against the Ravens offense. The Chiefs have an offensive mastermind and elite-elite QB who perform extremely well against blitzing, zone-heavy defenses.

And
5) this is our board. If you can’t read confidence from the Chiefs fans and critiques of your own team, maybe this isn’t for you. And you should go chug some antifreeze.

The only issue with this is that you cherry pick how the Ravens beat an injured Texans team while in the same breath lauding the Chiefs for beating two teams whose defense were depleted by injuries.

StalkRavenMad 01-27-2024 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17365605)
Turnovers by a defense have PROVEN to be completely driven by luck...sorry

Please share said proof.

OneWinningDrive 01-27-2024 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17366031)
It's not unhinged, Vegas odds are insinuating that it will be hard for Baltimore to sack Mahomes. I believe we are the 2nd least sacked team in the league, just behind the Bills. Even with Thuney out, our Oline should be ok. Also, statistics show most of your sacks were against QB's that get sacked more than average.

I'm not sure that the odds for a prop bet tell us much about what the question is here: whether the Ravens are going to need to blitz more than usual in this game. The stat I cited clearly shows they can get to the quarterback without blitzing. And the Ravens' blitz percentage overall is below the league average.

Tribal Warfare 01-27-2024 05:14 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hello, Baltimore. <a href="https://t.co/TF4DH6Hoce">pic.twitter.com/TF4DH6Hoce</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1751355949816635819?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chief_N_Bama 01-27-2024 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17366052)
The only issue with this is that you cherry pick how the Ravens beat an injured Texans team while in the same breath lauding the Chiefs for beating two teams whose defense were depleted by injuries.

You’re right. It’s only because the Dolphins and bills were injured that the Chiefs are playing in their 6th consecutive AFCCG.

And who would assume the ravens benefited from injuries when they are such a consistently dominant playoff team. There’s simply now way a #1 seed ravens team would lose to an AFC South team in the divisional round with an MVP qb, right???

StalkRavenMad 01-27-2024 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama (Post 17365787)
This isn't true. No one is saying Lamar is the reason the ravens will win. It's the ravens defense and the fact that the Chiefs offense has not been its normally dominant self. But no one is saying that LAMAR is the reason the ravens win tomorrow.

Which is odd for a "2 time MVP".

everyone knows that without Lamar the Ravena arwnr even in terms AFCCG. If we win tomorrow Lamar will have had a great game.

Chief_N_Bama 01-27-2024 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366023)
Out of all of the unhinged delusionals here, you're right up there. The Ravens have 44 sacks with four or fewer pass rushers, which is nine more than any other team in the NFL. If there's a recipe for flustering Mahomes, it's exactly that.

I remember the Eagles saying the same thing.

ravens are 4th in sack rate. Guess who’s first? The Chiefs.

Lamar is the 9th most sacked qb at 7.5% of drop backs.

Mahomes is 2nd fewest at 4.3%.

Who do you really think this favors??? Eagles didn’t sack Mahomes and the Chiefs got Jalen twice. And their pash rush was far surperior to the ravens. Y’all’s are coverage sacks.

StalkRavenMad 01-27-2024 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17365825)
You say the Chiefs victory vs. the Bills is diminished because they were missing 2 starters from the week before, yet the Texans were without two of their top WR's... LMAO

The Bills LBs were the back uos to the back ups. AJ Klien chilling in Planet Chiefs 20 minutes before KO.

Bowser 01-27-2024 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17366060)
everyone knows that without Lamar the Ravena arwnr even in terms AFCCG. If we win tomorrow Lamar will have had a great game.

If Lamar runs for 100+, the Chiefs' chances of winning are ultra slim.

The Chiefs are going to send blitzes, a lot of them. We get to see if the new and improved Lamar can beat press coverage on the level the Chiefs can play it. Or, if he can stay alive and run through the vacated lanes, that'll be how he gets 100 on the ground if it happens.

OneWinningDrive 01-27-2024 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17366050)
And who are they trying to sack, sir?

They're trying to sack the QB of the team that had the lowest sack percentage in the league even with all of its offensive issues, who has been consistently elite at not being sacked throughout his career.

Throw in that he is protected by one of the better pass-blocking OLs in the NFL, and the prediction the Ravens will have to blitz to get him on the ground is pretty darn sensible.

The only out here is that the Ravens are able to get Madubuike consistently whipping Allegretti. He's no Joe Thuney, but he's also a quality veteran with starting experience and just held up well against Ed Oliver last week. And has Creed Humphrey to his right for help if he needs it on pass sets.

I'm not discounting the Chiefs' pass protection or Mahomes' elusiveness. They're both great. And the Ravens will blitz. What I was addressing is the suggestion that the Ravens cannot get home without blitzing and so will be forced to blitz more than they want to/should.

The Dolphins game two weeks ago was an example of a team that had no choice but to run the same blitzes repeatedly against the Chiefs. They had so many injuries that even though the blitz is a known death sentence against Mahomes, doing so was still better than not getting any pressure whatsoever with four and just letting Mahomes carve them up.

The Ravens are in a completely different position. They get to the QB with four.

Of course, that won't be enough. If all you ever did was bring four, that wouldn't amount to nearly enough pressure. So they will need to blitz occasionally. But it's not like any kind of blitz is prima facie dead on arrival against Mahomes. The thing you can't do is give him looks he has already seen on tape or in the game. But the Ravens have as deep and diverse of a playbook as there is in the league, and they will give him looks he hasn't seen before. He might still beat them, but it's not going to be spamming of the same blitz packages that he easily recognizes and brushes off.

Chief_N_Bama 01-27-2024 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17366060)
everyone knows that without Lamar the Ravena arwnr even in terms AFCCG. If we win tomorrow Lamar will have had a great game.

That just means Lamar is the starting qb. Would the Chiefs be here without Mahomes?? The 9ers wouldn’t be in the NFCCG without Purdy. Doesn’t make him the MVP.

RedinTexas 01-27-2024 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 17366057)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hello, Baltimore. <a href="https://t.co/TF4DH6Hoce">pic.twitter.com/TF4DH6Hoce</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1751355949816635819?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Kelce - "I came here to catch touchdown passes and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum."

StalkRavenMad 01-27-2024 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17366050)
And who are they trying to sack, sir?

They're trying to sack the QB of the team that had the lowest sack percentage in the league even with all of its offensive issues, who has been consistently elite at not being sacked throughout his career.

Throw in that he is protected by one of the better pass-blocking OLs in the NFL, and the prediction the Ravens will have to blitz to get him on the ground is pretty darn sensible.

The only out here is that the Ravens are able to get Madubuike consistently whipping Allegretti. He's no Joe Thuney, but he's also a quality veteran with starting experience and just held up well against Ed Oliver last week. And has Creed Humphrey to his right for help if he needs it on pass sets.

Thiae tackles are the most penalized crew in the NFL.

Chief_N_Bama 01-27-2024 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366069)
I'm not discounting the Chiefs' pass protection or Mahomes' elusiveness. They're both great. And the Ravens will blitz. What I was addressing is the suggestion that the Ravens cannot get home without blitzing and so will be forced to blitz more than they want to/should.

The Dolphins game two weeks ago was an example of a team that had no choice but to run the same blitzes repeatedly against the Chiefs. They had so many injuries that even though the blitz is a known death sentence against Mahomes, doing so was still better than not getting any pressure whatsoever with four and just letting Mahomes carve them up.

The Ravens are in a completely different position. They get to the QB with four.

Of course, that won't be enough. If all you ever did was bring four, that wouldn't amount to nearly enough pressure. So they will need to blitz occasionally. But it's not like any kind of blitz is prima facie dead on arrival against Mahomes. The thing you can't do is give him looks he has already seen on tape or in the game. But the Ravens have as deep and diverse of a playbook as there is in the league, and they will give him looks he hasn't seen before. He might still beat them, but it's not going to be spamming of the same blitz packages that he easily recognizes and brushes off.

Mahomes has played in 16 postseason game including 3 Super Bowls. He has 3590 regular season pass attempt and 587 postseason pass attempts.

Lamar is played in 5 and this will be his first AFCCG. He has 2112 regular season pass attempts and 158 postseason pass attempts.

One of these guys is likely to see looks he's never seen before. And it's not Mahomes.

FloridaMan88 01-27-2024 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 17365741)
Wtf, lol.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs now officially have ruled out WR Kadarius Toney for Sunday’s AFC Championship game due to a hip injury and personal reasons.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1751284087887684019?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He’s celebrating his birthday.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">HBD to our guy, KT 🥳 <a href="https://t.co/6eqO7f0mlB">pic.twitter.com/6eqO7f0mlB</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1751251212224106747?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

UChieffyBugger 01-27-2024 05:42 PM

I don't know if anyone has seen the numbers but there is a CLEAR WEAKNESS in the Ravens defense that no-one is really talking about. And what is it you may ask?

QB RUNS!!

Cj Stroud= 4 carries, 20 yards, 5 yards per carry

DTR= 4 carries, 24 yards, 6 yards per carry

Pickett= 1 carry, 16 yards

Willis= 3 carries, 17 yards, 5.7 per carry

Dobbs= 6 carries, 26 yards, 4.3 yards per carry and a TD

Watson= 8 carries, 37 yards, 4.6 yards per carry

Browning= 4 carries, 40 yards, 10 yards per carry ( plus Burrow had one carry for 7 yards before getting hurt so it was 5 carries for 47 yards total in that game between the qb's)

Herbert= 4 carries, 47 yards, 11.8 yards per carry

Lawrence= 4 carries, 41 yards, 10.2 yards per carry

Darnald= 1 carry, 9 yards

Tua= 2 carries, 14 yards, 7 yards per carry

Obviously one scramble here and there can tilt the stats but look at those Browning, Herbert and Lawrence stats!!..and those are guys that are pocket passers mainly :eek: . I also remember watching that Browns game and Watson's runs late in the game to convert 3rd downs demoralised that defense.

Other than Dobbs and Watson Pat will be the BEST runner they have faced this year...FACT. Meanwhile the Chiefs have faced FIELDS, HURTS AND ALLEN (TWICE!!). We also saw Browning, Herbert and Lawrence like the Ravens. So in reality we've had plenty of reps against tough running QB's, and also the ones who gave the Ravens problems.

I honestly think Pat's runs could do a lot of damage tomorrow. Especially as Chris Simms already pointed out the Ravens DL haven't been great just rushing four. So they may need to send more guys which could open up rushing lanes.

And lastly all three of their loses were at home. Is it a coincidence that the four times teams put pressure on them in that building they lost three and was taken to OT in the other? We'll see.

Bearcat 01-27-2024 05:46 PM

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Lzen 01-27-2024 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17366052)
The only issue with this is that you cherry pick how the Ravens beat an injured Texans team while in the same breath lauding the Chiefs for beating two teams whose defense were depleted by injuries.

Uhhhh..... no.
No he did not do that.
Why you making up shit now,

BWillie 01-27-2024 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17366088)
He’s celebrating his birthday.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">HBD to our guy, KT 🥳 <a href="https://t.co/6eqO7f0mlB">pic.twitter.com/6eqO7f0mlB</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1751251212224106747?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This mother****er is getting cut or going to the practice squad all year next year

jerryaldini 01-27-2024 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17366088)
He’s celebrating his birthday.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">HBD to our guy, KT 🥳 <a href="https://t.co/6eqO7f0mlB">pic.twitter.com/6eqO7f0mlB</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1751251212224106747?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ah those days of Skyy and Toney not producing because Andy didn't want to put too much on tape and they would bust out in the playoffs.

FloridaMan88 01-27-2024 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17366104)
This mother****er is getting cut or going to the practice squad all year next year

The responses to that Tweet are great. LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Don’t throw him a party, he’ll drop it.</p>&mdash; EveryMorning Quarterback (@EMQpodcast) <a href="https://twitter.com/EMQpodcast/status/1751264004578722195?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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