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Pablo 04-08-2014 08:47 PM

SNR is right.

Fisher sucked last year because he was a soft, clueless pussy. If he shakes that he has a chance.

htismaqe 04-08-2014 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10549533)
He was not nearly as bad the second half of the year as people want him to be.

He wasn't GOOD either.

htismaqe 04-08-2014 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10549541)
You don't get a full offseason of reps. The new CBA has significantly shortened the amount of reps rookies get in OTAs and with coaches. For a raw player from a small division, let alone one changing from Left to Right Tackle, that shit makes a huge difference.

He was the 1st overall pick.

Get that "raw player from a small division" shit outta here.

BossChief 04-08-2014 09:22 PM

There is SOME validity to the left/right side thing...but I was there at camp and watched him get his ass WHOOPED in 1on1 drills against just about everyone. In these drills, position isn't a factor, but his lacking core strength and upper body strength were glaringly evident.

That guy the Jags cut (and we ended up cutting) just beat Fisher consistently.

I think Fisher has a chance to be a very good left tackle IF HE IS TAKING THIS OFFSEASON SERIOUSLY AND SHOWS UP TO OTAS WITH ANOTHER 15 POUNDS OF MUSCLE.

If he shows up not VISABLY bigger and stronger, I think we might be in deep shit.

BossChief 04-08-2014 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10549824)
He was the 1st overall pick.

Get that "raw player from a small division" shit outta here.

Exactly.

All we heard all offseason was how we shouldn't take a QB because none of them are ready to step right in and start/lead a team.

But somehow it's okay for an offensive linemen.

Silly ass double standards.

milkman 04-08-2014 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10549533)
He was not nearly as bad the second half of the year as people want him to be.

And he was a guy we knew was raw, entering into a shortended practice schedule, and on top of that had to learn to play on the complete opposite side of the ball. And an area where his strength was more im portant than his feet. We don't know what we have in this kid. But I'd like a full offseason with him dedicated to his natural position to find out.

You're this regime's Rufus Dawes, aren't you?

Pablo 04-08-2014 09:26 PM

Fisher was a shitty dildo last year, but he's switching sides so we should expect an all pro performance.

Sound logic.

BossChief 04-08-2014 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10549863)
Fisher was a shitty dildo last year, but he's switching sides so we should expect an all pro performance.

Sound logic.

To an extent, I can understand that logic.

Every single scout out there said Fisher has rare tools to be a premier LEFT tackle at the NFL level.

I mean, the guy could be the Robert Gallery of this generation, but I sure hope not.

Jimmya 04-08-2014 09:43 PM

Surely he'll get a little better in his 2nd year.

chiefzilla1501 04-08-2014 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10549853)
You're this regime's Rufus Dawes, aren't you?

And you're this regime's Eeyore.

I'm sorry that if I don't blindly jump off cliffs because a guy struggles in his first season. I hated the pick. I still do. And I don't think he's an elite Left Tackle. I laid out plenty of reasons why he may be better but have never said he's a guaranteed success. I'm sorry if even the smallest hint of optimism smells like farts to you.

chiefzilla1501 04-08-2014 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10549824)
He was the 1st overall pick.

Get that "raw player from a small division" shit outta here.

And you have to stop obsessing about where he was picked. He was a terrible 1.1. He's never going to live up to the draft position. Once you get that out of your mind you'll realize it's way too soon to realize what he's got. Especially when you think of all the things stacked against him. Small school, incredibly shortened practice schedule, forced to switch positions and play extremely undersized.

RunKC 04-08-2014 09:56 PM

85% of this kid's problem was that he was simply not strong enough.

Dorsey told him to put on weight and hit the gym. I guarantee you he's doing that shit right now and has been ever since the season was over.

Time will tell. We'll find out next year.

Rausch 04-09-2014 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10549963)
85% of this kid's problem was that he was simply not strong enough.

Dorsey told him to put on weight and hit the gym. I guarantee you he's doing that shit right now and has been ever since the season was over.

Time will tell. We'll find out next year.

He was completely lost.

He's got guys that are 280 lbs JUKING him right off the line.

He's bull rushed over.

He's slapped and pushed.

He was beaten every way a man can be beaten short of prison seggs...

Dunerdr 04-09-2014 04:33 AM

Man one season and he'll never live up to his potential. But this place sings stephensons praises after 3 years as a back up and a handful of ok starts.

chiefzilla1501 04-09-2014 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10550146)
He was completely lost.

He's got guys that are 280 lbs JUKING him right off the line.

He's bull rushed over.

He's slapped and pushed.

He was beaten every way a man can be beaten short of prison seggs...

The beginning of the season he looked flat out terrible. He improved in the middle of the season but looked terrible... that's going to happen to any rookie who squares off against JJ Watt, Von Miller twice, the Colts and Browns' solid defensive lines. At the end of the season, he looked like an ok player.

Of course he has to start playing a shitload better. But he did improve and he wasn't "terrible" at the end of the year. I've already mentioned lots of legit reasons why he could be better next season. And they are pretty big things.


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