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Mecca 09-24-2018 06:29 AM

Of course it is a PR thing too, there will be some people that get annoyed about giving up a 1, or "Brett Veach sucks at the draft" when he won't have a 1, 2 drafts in a row..

Molitoth 09-24-2018 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13758070)
Of course it is a PR thing too, there will be some people that get annoyed about giving up a 1, or "Brett Veach sucks at the draft" when he won't have a 1, 2 drafts in a row..

I can't be happy giving up a #1 for a partial season rental, especially when we have Bob Sutton as the common denominator. =(

Mecca 09-24-2018 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 13758076)
I can't be happy giving up a #1 for a partial season rental, especially when we have Bob Sutton as the common denominator. =(

If you make that deal you assume there is a new contract because his cap number is pretty high.

Thomas wants to get paid so I doubt you are dealing for him unless you are ready to pay him.

Chiefnj2 09-24-2018 06:47 AM

Berry has a 16 mil cap hit next year. I don't see how any team ties up 25 mil plus in one year on safeties.

It would likely be a one year rental for a 2nd round +. That's going all in this year.

Molitoth 09-24-2018 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13758081)
If you make that deal you assume there is a new contract because his cap number is pretty high.

Thomas wants to get paid so I doubt you are dealing for him unless you are ready to pay him.

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13758082)
Berry has a 16 mil cap hit next year. I don't see how any team ties up 25 mil plus in one year on safeties.

It would likely be a one year rental for a 2nd round +. That's going all in this year.

This. 25+ mil in Safeties and 1 of them can't see the field. Berry is going to be rusty IF he ever comes back, and Earl may need some weeks to adjust to Bob's D.

Mecca 09-24-2018 06:57 AM

You get away with it because you have Ford, Bailey and Houston likely coming off the book after this year.

Who's to say this team doesn't walk on Berry in 2 years?

htismaqe 09-24-2018 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 13758076)
I can't be happy giving up a #1 for a partial season rental, especially when we have Bob Sutton as the common denominator. =(

Bob Sutton's defenses were excellent when the talent was there. This defense sorely needs talent and using Bob Sutton as an excuse to not acquire it is inexcusable...

htismaqe 09-24-2018 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13758082)
That's going all in this year.

When Mahomes is this far ahead of schedule, going all in makes perfect sense.

Mecca 09-24-2018 07:02 AM

Why wouldn't you go all in? The AFC is in shambles, the Steelers are a dramafied mess, the Patriots look old and untalented, Jacksonville has no offense.

The spot is there for the taking right now.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13758099)
Why wouldn't you go all in? The AFC is in shambles, the Steelers are a dramafied mess, the Patriots look old and untalented, Jacksonville has no offense.

The spot is there for the taking right now.

Exactly.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-24-2018 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13758096)
When Mahomes is this far ahead of schedule, going all in makes perfect sense.

We have to stick to the PLAN, younger and faster on defense.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13758106)
We have to stick to the PLAN, younger and faster on defense.

Because the "plan" has won us so many Super Bowls.

Again, Patrick Mahomes changes EVERYTHING. He's having a one-in-a-lifetime season right now. You have to take advantage of it.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-24-2018 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13758109)
Because the "plan" has won us so many Super Bowls.

Again, Patrick Mahomes changes EVERYTHING. He's having a one-in-a-lifetime season right now. You have to take advantage of it.

He's just getting started. Manning, brees and Brady didn't have their best football year 1.

Mecca 09-24-2018 07:16 AM

How long are you going to have that offense rolling that way?

At some point we are going to have a less talented offense to have an average defense and a QB making a ton of money.

The time is right now.

htismaqe 09-24-2018 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13758121)
He's just getting started. Manning, brees and Brady didn't have their best football year 1.

His start is better than any of those guys. When you have a winning lottery ticket in your hand, you cash it in. You don't stick it in your pocket and say "I think I'll just keep playing to see if I can get a bigger jackpot".

This year's team can win a Super Bowl. They need more talent on defense. Wasting this opportunity would be a real shame.


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