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Rausch 04-27-2012 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 8575576)
Least we have draft picks...

LMAO

KevB 04-27-2012 07:53 PM

Wilson's chick is weird. I'm excited, but I'm not going to let go of my mini-dog and coffee cup.

mcaj22 04-27-2012 07:53 PM

if one of our starting safeties who are coming off big injuries isnt 100 percent and gets hurt again

we are ****ED for a 2nd year in a row at the lack of depth

chiefs1111 04-27-2012 07:53 PM

Pioli can take his process and go **** himself with it

Beef Supreme 04-27-2012 07:53 PM

I think we can make this an all lineman draft!!!!!!!!11111eleven

BigMeatballDave 04-27-2012 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chop (Post 8575588)
Seattle can't make up their mind when it comes to the QB position.

At least they know what QB competition is.

Marco Polo 04-27-2012 07:54 PM

dpbrugler Great pick for the #Chiefs...gave OT D. Stephenson a 4th round grade and was one of my top sleepers this year #NFLDraft

Frosty 04-27-2012 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 8575591)
if one of our starting safeties who are coming off big injuries isnt 100 percent and gets hurt again

we are ****ED for a 2nd year in a row at the lack of depth

Come on down, Sabby!

DaKCMan AP 04-27-2012 07:54 PM

Not a fan of the Stephenson pick, but the things to note is that he is a fit in the zone blocking scheme and he can play both RT & LT.

R8RFAN 04-27-2012 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 8575576)
Least we have draft picks...

:LOL:LMAO I love your draft picks.... I want you to have more

O.city 04-27-2012 07:54 PM

Lamar Miller is still on the board.

MoreLemonPledge 04-27-2012 07:54 PM

WHERE THE **** IS KIRK COUSINS

The Franchise 04-27-2012 07:54 PM

We'll lose out on Iloka.

the Talking Can 04-27-2012 07:54 PM

chargers ****ed us in the A

Titty Meat 04-27-2012 07:54 PM

We couldn't have traded down to get this guy?

Mecca 04-27-2012 07:54 PM

Here I found it...

“(USC OLT) Matt Kalil is a good, solid player, but tell me who the next-best left tackle is. Cordy Glenn is a guard for me. (Ohio State’s) Mike Adams is soft and doesn’t train. Riley Reiff has everything you want — he’s just not a very good foot athlete. The guy with left tackle feet is (Oklahoma’s) Donald Stephenson. He doesn’t work and doesn’t lift and had to sit out a season for his (issues). There is a big 'miss' factor there with him, but on his talent alone, he could play at a high level.”

ChiefsCountry 04-27-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8575560)
How do you know?

Because it is. 2009 was a ****ing disaster all the way around. Our picks are at least in the ballpark this year.

whoman69 04-27-2012 07:55 PM

That's pretty early for Wilson. And I was criticized for having a mock with him in the 6th.

lcarus 04-27-2012 07:55 PM

Wow. **** this.

Mr_Tomahawk 04-27-2012 07:55 PM

****...that is one less team to take Cousins!

Bump 04-27-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 8575548)
Is Cassel in the war room?

Lol

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Chief_For_Life58 04-27-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8575582)
wrong

of course

u really think albert is a franchise offensive lineman? cus i dont


why didnt we draft bobby massie instead? i thought he was high on our choices?

Simplicity 04-27-2012 07:55 PM

I would most deff want Wilson more then this pile of sheet.

Molitoth 04-27-2012 07:55 PM

Tampa Bay and Cinci are winners of the draft so far imo.

KevB 04-27-2012 07:55 PM

Stephenson was the next best tackle besides Massie according to several draft sites for what that's worth.

OnTheWarpath15 04-27-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8575607)
We couldn't have traded down to get this guy?

Why trade down?

Can't imagine he wouldn't be there in the 4th - and if not, not a huge loss.

Mecca 04-27-2012 07:56 PM

Basically we took an extra OL when we still have to get a safety, DE, RB and preferably a ILB.

the Talking Can 04-27-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 8575616)
u really think albert is a franchise offensive lineman? cus i dont


why didnt we draft bobby massie instead? i thought he was high on our choices?

then you've never watched him play

TRR 04-27-2012 07:57 PM

I feel as though KC had WR Stephen Hill tee'd up in the second round and got jumped by one spot. I feel like in round #3 KC had Brandon Tayler tee'd up and again got jumped one pick ahead.

I know the line needed depth, but its tough to take depth picks in the 2nd and 3rd round. Our 2nd and 3rd round pick won't see the field in 2012.....That's a tough thing to swallow for fans.

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KevB 04-27-2012 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 8575600)
Not a fan of the Stephenson pick, but the things to note is that he is a fit in the zone blocking scheme and he can play both RT & LT.

Exactly. We now have solid athletes as depth both at tackle with a swing guy and inside with Allen. I preferred speed on offense or a pass rusher, but I don't hate the pick.

okcchief 04-27-2012 07:58 PM

Pioli must own stock in a KC BBQ joint.

O.city 04-27-2012 07:58 PM

We need to grab a Rb and some Safety depth for sure.



Turbin and Illoka would work for me.

chiefzilla1501 04-27-2012 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 8575623)
Basically we took an extra OL when we still have to get a safety, DE, RB and preferably a ILB.

We desperately need tackles too.

The question is he's any good.

People have to stop acting like starters are the only thing that matters. Our o-line depth has been the worst in the league for a long time. When we cut Gaither, we had no backups at tackle.

Titty Meat 04-27-2012 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8575611)
Because it is. 2009 was a ****ing disaster all the way around. Our picks are at least in the ballpark this year.

Eh 2 of the guys we drafted are huge projects and I don't see this coaching staff being around long.

The Franchise 04-27-2012 07:59 PM

When do we trade up for our TE?

KevB 04-27-2012 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 8575628)
I feel as though KC had WR Stephen Hill tee'd up in the second round and got jumped by one spot. I feel like in round #3 KC had Brandon Tayler tee'd up and again got jumped one pick ahead.

I know the line needed depth, but its tough to take picks in the 2nd and 3rd round. Our 2nd and 3rd round pick won't see th field in 2012.....That's a tough thing to swallow for fans.
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We must have gotten trumped somewhere along the way, because 2 offensive lineman certainly don't qualify as the surprise that Pioli promised.

the Talking Can 04-27-2012 07:59 PM

waste of a night

Mecca 04-27-2012 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR (Post 8575628)
I feel as though KC had WR Stephen Hill tee'd up in the second round and got jumped by one spot. I feel like in round #3 KC had Brandon Tayler tee'd up and again got jumped one pick ahead.

I know the line needed depth, but its tough to take depth picks in the 2nd and 3rd round. Our 2nd and 3rd round pick won't see th field in 2012.....That's a tough thing to swallow for fans.
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Uh Allens probably a starter, Lilja blows.

Rausch 04-27-2012 08:00 PM

This pick reminds me of the Arenas pick.

You don't draft FOR guys to be depth. What the ****.

Titty Meat 04-27-2012 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8575622)
Why trade down?

Can't imagine he wouldn't be there in the 4th - and if not, not a huge loss.

Theme seems to be depth in the trenches and this draft is filled with it. I agree with you but at the same time it'd be nice to collect some picks. Would like to get some depth at safety and inside linebacker.

OnTheWarpath15 04-27-2012 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8575637)
When do we trade up for our TE?

Should be coming up shortly.

KevB 04-27-2012 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8575622)
Why trade down?

Can't imagine he wouldn't be there in the 4th - and if not, not a huge loss.

He or Massie were probably the next tackles, so doubt he would have been there.

beer bacon 04-27-2012 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 8575608)
Here I found it...

“(USC OLT) Matt Kalil is a good, solid player, but tell me who the next-best left tackle is. Cordy Glenn is a guard for me. (Ohio State’s) Mike Adams is soft and doesn’t train. Riley Reiff has everything you want — he’s just not a very good foot athlete. The guy with left tackle feet is (Oklahoma’s) Donald Stephenson. He doesn’t work and doesn’t lift and had to sit out a season for his (issues). There is a big 'miss' factor there with him, but on his talent alone, he could play at a high level.”

Sounds like a bust.

ChiefsCountry 04-27-2012 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8575641)
This pick reminds me of the Arenas pick.

You don't draft FOR guys to be depth. What the ****.

:banghead:

Setsuna 04-27-2012 08:00 PM

I hate my TEAM! Argh!

AustinChief 04-27-2012 08:01 PM

It's funny watching everyone freak out about Stephenson... you guys do realize we have ZERO depth at tackle, right? Yes, we need safety depth and other spots as well... but don't act like it wasn't a HUGE need.

O.city 04-27-2012 08:01 PM

We got two starters at major holes, hopefully.

ku_jhawk23 04-27-2012 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 8575623)
Basically we took an extra OL when we still have to get a safety, DE, RB and preferably a ILB.


I have a question....who is our back up tackle? You said we need S, DE, RB ILB....we would be drafting a back up at each of those positions too. If Winston or Albert goes down, what do we do? This pick is a little bit of a project, but why the angst when we clearly need a back up tackle.

OnTheWarpath15 04-27-2012 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 8575645)
He or Massie were probably the next tackles, so doubt he would have been there.

I know I would have lost sleep tonight if someone else had taken him before our R4 pick.

Bump 04-27-2012 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR (Post 8575628)
I feel as though KC had WR Stephen Hill tee'd up in the second round and got jumped by one spot. I feel like in round #3 KC had Brandon Tayler tee'd up and again got jumped one pick ahead.

I know the line needed depth, but its tough to take depth picks in the 2nd and 3rd round. Our 2nd and 3rd round pick won't see the field in 2012.....That's a tough thing to swallow for fans.

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Allen is gonna play, i would think

Titty Meat 04-27-2012 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8575652)
It's funny watching everyone freak out about Stephenson... you guys do realize we have ZERO depth at tackle, right? Yes, we need safety depth and other spots as well... but don't act like it wasn't a HUGE need.

Yeah and if either tackle goes down next year we're still ****. Stephenson won't be ready.

TRR 04-27-2012 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 8575640)
Uh Allens probably a starter, Lilja blows.

What do you want to bet?? I GUARANTEE you he doesn't see the field unless Lilja is injured.

O-Line depth.....Yea!
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KevB 04-27-2012 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 8575641)
This pick reminds me of the Arenas pick.

You don't draft FOR guys to be depth. What the ****.

One injury and he's no longer "depth".

Bewbies 04-27-2012 08:02 PM

We need more O-lineman, but I'd prefer we took depth in the late rounds....

O.city 04-27-2012 08:02 PM

James Michael Johnson is still there, Illoka, Miller.

Mr_Tomahawk 04-27-2012 08:02 PM

I hope someone reaches and picks Cousins off the board before we pick again...

OnTheWarpath15 04-27-2012 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ku_jhawk23 (Post 8575654)
I have a question....who is our back up tackle? You said we need S, DE, RB ILB....we would be drafting a back up at each of those positions too. If Winston or Albert goes down, what do we do? This pick is a little bit of a project, but why the angst when we clearly need a back up tackle.

We just used a 2nd round pick on a guy who's selling point was being able to play tackle and guard.

penchief 04-27-2012 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8575607)
We couldn't have traded down to get this guy?

NFL.com has only three players in the third round with a higher rating than Stephenson. Not saying that means a whole lot but it seems like maybe people are overreacting a little. He has a rating of 82.0 and Brandon Taylor has a rating of 69.5.

ChiefsCountry 04-27-2012 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8575652)
It's funny watching everyone freak out about Stephenson... you guys do realize we have ZERO depth at tackle, right? Yes, we need safety depth and other spots as well... but don't act like it wasn't a HUGE need.

We needed at least 3 O-Line out of this draft for depth, since we have zero.

Frosty 04-27-2012 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8575652)
It's funny watching everyone freak out about Stephenson... you guys do realize we have ZERO depth at tackle, right? Yes, we need safety depth and other spots as well... but don't act like it wasn't a HUGE need.

They drafted a guy that could back up the tackle position in round 2

KevB 04-27-2012 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8575658)
Yeah and if either tackle goes down next year we're still ****. Stephenson won't be ready.

Think he's more ready that David Mims? Because that's who would jump into the mix if there's an injury.

Mecca 04-27-2012 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ku_jhawk23 (Post 8575654)
I have a question....who is our back up tackle? You said we need S, DE, RB ILB....we would be drafting a back up at each of those positions too. If Winston or Albert goes down, what do we do? This pick is a little bit of a project, but why the angst when we clearly need a back up tackle.

Well I'm gonna tell you that if Charles isn't 100% and most guys aren't until year 2 after an ACL, we're ****ed.

OnTheWarpath15 04-27-2012 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8575658)
Yeah and if either tackle goes down next year we're still ****. Stephenson won't be ready.

2014.

Rausch 04-27-2012 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 8575613)
Wow. **** this.

Pioli is going to slowly rip his face off like on "V" and reveal himself as a Carl Peterson clone from Alpha Cetari (sp?)

Mecca 04-27-2012 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8575673)
They drafted a guy that could back up the tackle position in round 2

That guys going to be a starting guard.

okcchief 04-27-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 8575652)
It's funny watching everyone freak out about Stephenson... you guys do realize we have ZERO depth at tackle, right? Yes, we need safety depth and other spots as well... but don't act like it wasn't a HUGE need.

Ive watched OU enough to seriously question Stephenson. At least a round too early IMO. I hope he works out.

lcarus 04-27-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okcchief (Post 8575631)
Pioli must own stock in a KC BBQ joint.

Wouldnt have taken mccluster lol

siberian khatru 04-27-2012 08:04 PM

SEC!

OnTheWarpath15 04-27-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevB (Post 8575674)
Think he's more ready that David Mims? Because that's who would jump into the mix if there's an injury.

No, he's not even close.

Simplicity 04-27-2012 08:04 PM

Lamichael James please?!

Micjones 04-27-2012 08:04 PM

I wanted Iloka, Allen or Cousins there.

chiefs1111 04-27-2012 08:04 PM

Egnew to the Dolphins

donkhater 04-27-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8575575)
Is this guy any good?

People bitching that this is competition for Albert need to calm down. The Chiefs desperately, desperately, desperately need OL depth. They've been one injury away the past few years from Wallace Gilberry walking up and playing Left Tackle.

What matters is if the guy's any good. Any thoughts?

Absolutely agree. There was no one on the roster worthy damn after the five projected starters.

petegz28 04-27-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8575673)
They drafted a guy that could back up the tackle position in round 2

Some say Allen will be starting so if true then what you said is not correct

Frosty 04-27-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 8575678)
That guys going to be a starting guard.

Yes, but if there is an injury, Lilja comes in and Allen kicks to tackle. :shrug:

KevB 04-27-2012 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8575668)
We just used a 2nd round pick on a guy who's selling point was being able to play tackle and guard.

Nah, they announced him as a guard and he'll compete with Lilja to start. Loser backs up both guard spots, Stephenson backs up OT. Why is that so distressing? I had other preferences, but this does make some sense.

AustinChief 04-27-2012 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8575673)
They drafted a guy that could back up the tackle position in round 2

The guy who will be busy STARTING? What do you do, take him out of position and plug Lilja back in? That's just dumb.

Titty Meat 04-27-2012 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8575676)
2014.

ROFL Romeo will be what? 68? This off season has been a joke.

chiefs1111 04-27-2012 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 8575684)
Lamichael James please?!

He is long gone..............

KevB 04-27-2012 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8575692)
Yes, but if there is an injury, Lilja comes in and Allen kicks to tackle. :shrug:

Asking a lot of a rookie to be able to play both guard spots and both tackle spots.


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