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Pitt Gorilla 01-26-2016 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12050665)
It was wrong, then. Missouri was never connected to him.

Losing Newman sucks, though.

I thought Newman was the guy that few liked, given his initial low ranking.

Saul Good 01-26-2016 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12050653)
Are you going to answer the question? Why was he reinstated if Odom knew he was a cocaine user?

It was a 2 year old video. Who gives a shit? It shouldn't be a life sentence for doing blow at a party.

OmahaChief 01-26-2016 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 12050675)
It was a 2 year old video. Who gives a shit? It shouldn't be a life sentence for doing blow at a party.

It should be if you can't even snort a line properly.

The Franchise 01-26-2016 01:57 PM

Who ****ing films themselves snorting cocaine?

WhawhaWhat 01-26-2016 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12050696)
Who ****ing films themselves snorting cocaine?

Not Maty Mauk it seems. Looks like someone else did it which is an obvious party foul.

Pepe Silvia 01-26-2016 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12050696)
Who ****ing films themselves snorting cocaine?

http://i866.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1306439431

Perineum Ripper 01-26-2016 02:29 PM

http://i.imgur.com/utdwtR6.gif

http://imgur.com/gAcuf.gif

Sully 01-26-2016 02:33 PM

I don't mean to be totally dismissive, and I know the guy has been going through shit that would buckle anyone...


But all this distraction for a guy who is a pretty shitty player. it's not like we are talking about a star like DGB. he's a bad QB who was close to being beat out by a true freshman. Pinkel/Odom did what they could to help the kid, and if this video is proven to be old and he is walking the clean path, should continue to do so. But if he's still using, he's had enough chances.

Red Dawg 01-26-2016 02:34 PM

Pretty clear that he is done as done gets. Mauk the idiot.

Sully 01-26-2016 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12050745)
Pretty clear that he is done as done gets. Mauk the idiot.

If this video is 2 years old, i don't see why.

KCUnited 01-26-2016 02:45 PM

Only in a safe space would you use a butter knife to cut lines of coke.

Prison Bitch 01-26-2016 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 12050675)
It was a 2 year old video. Who gives a shit? It shouldn't be a life sentence for doing blow at a party.

We agree: not a big deal. One last time: why was he suspended again today if this is info Odom already knew???

blake5676 01-26-2016 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12050778)
We agree: not a big deal. One last time: why was he suspended again today if this is info Odom already knew???

I would imagine for the same reason we see this sort of reaction to numerous other similar scenarios.

In politics, in sports, etc.

Purely PR. It looks bad when it's out in the public, so it's an attempt to save face or at least give the appearance of consequence. You're not stupid, PB.

RustShack 01-26-2016 04:36 PM

I can see why you tried hiring Matt Campbell, he's been great for Iowa State so far.

WhawhaWhat 01-26-2016 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 12050942)
I can see why you tried hiring Matt Campbell, he's been great for Iowa State so far.

He's had some huge wins.

WhawhaWhat 01-26-2016 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12050778)
We agree: not a big deal. One last time: why was he suspended again today if this is info Odom already knew???

Do you have a point without all the passive aggressive leading questions?

duncan_idaho 01-26-2016 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 12050942)
I can see why you tried hiring Matt Campbell, he's been great for Iowa State so far.


You have to actually offer a guy a job to "try hiring him."

SAUTO 01-26-2016 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12050696)
Who ****ing films themselves snorting cocaine?

No one I've ever hung out with

SAUTO 01-26-2016 06:37 PM

And videoing anything where people MIGHT snort anything could get you killed in some places

RustShack 01-26-2016 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12051028)
You have to actually offer a guy a job to "try hiring him."

He was Mizzous top choice, but it's cool if you want to pretend it wasn't offered now.

duncan_idaho 01-26-2016 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 12051174)
He was Mizzous top choice, but it's cool if you want to pretend it wasn't offered now.


Absolutely false. Unless you're spelling Tom Herman's name wrong by accident.

RustShack 01-26-2016 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12051230)
Absolutely false. Unless you're spelling Tom Herman's name wrong by accident.

That's actually hilarious if you guys actually thought you had any type of chance with Herman.

duncan_idaho 01-26-2016 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 12051286)
That's actually hilarious if you guys actually thought you had any type of chance with Herman.


What's hilarious is that a simple google search for "Matt Campbell Missouri" links you to football scoop articles in which sources are quoted as basically saying Campbell would take the Missouri job if offered, but you somehow think he had an actual offer on the table from Missouri and spurned it.

Rhoades tried to work his former relationship with Herman to make it happen and waited a while for a final "no" from him before moving on.

His initial list was:
Herman
Fuente
Odom

He interviewed a lot of guys to be thorough and to buy time on his No. 1 target's decision. The perceived vulnerability of Charlie Strong at Texas was a big factor in Herman staying put, as was Houston's booster group ponying up SEC-level cash to keep him.

Campbell was about Missouri's 5th/6th choice. He's a good coach and he'll do good things at Iowa State for a few years, which will lead to him taking a step up to a school with more natural advantages.

Be happy with that. But you're absolutely wrong about his relationship with Missouri.

Discuss Thrower 01-26-2016 08:42 PM

There's a Nixa baller (Terry Allen's son) that's getting recruiting visits from Harbaugh among other B1G programs.

I'm presuming he won't be playing for Mizzou ever.

DJ's left nut 01-27-2016 01:45 PM

Good ol' Rustshack.

Campbell was our first choice now? Uh...no.

I like Campbell, but he was never ahead of Odom and Odom was always a given to accept if offered. Knowing that, it's pretty apparent that Campbell was never an actual consideration.

DJ's left nut 01-27-2016 01:46 PM

Good for Wolfe:

http://www.abc17news.com/news/former...ation/37666968

Man is not governed by angels and Wolfe didn't handle this mess as well as he could've, but he got absolutely railroaded and good for him for finally coming back at the University and the cowards who threw him under the bus.

Pepe Silvia 01-27-2016 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac459 (Post 12050737)

ROFL

Captain Obvious 01-27-2016 02:21 PM

Already have to find a new DL coach.

Pepe Silvia 01-27-2016 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Obvious (Post 12052625)
Already have to find a new DL coach.

Someone put a Voo Doo hex on this school recently.

Sully 01-27-2016 02:36 PM

Two consecutive Tweets...

Keyshon Camp visiting Mizzou this week after decommitting from USC. lead recruiter at both spots was Chris Wilson.


Chris Wilson leaves Mizzou to join Eagles staff.


I guess the good news is that he can't be recruited to Philly.

Pepe Silvia 01-27-2016 02:44 PM

Odom already has two big strikes against him.

DJ's left nut 01-27-2016 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 12052663)
Odom already has two big strikes against him.

Losing a DL coach to an NFL job is a strike against Odom?

Pepe Silvia 01-27-2016 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12052673)
Losing a DL coach to an NFL job is a strike against Odom?

Yes, he hired a shady **** instead of keeping Kul, shows bad judgement.

DJ's left nut 01-27-2016 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 12052674)
Yes, he hired a shady **** instead of keeping Kul, shows bad judgement.

A guy took a promotion and that makes him shady?

And by all accounts, he didn't elect not to keep Kuligowski. Kuligowski left of his own accord.

20 years at Mizzou and he never even made the DC post despite being arguably the best DL coach in the country - it's safe to say he'd hit his ceiling here and time to move on.

Sometimes people just make the decisions that are best for them and their family and there's little that can be done about it. That's pretty obviously the case with both of the decisions that you're trying to hang around Odom's neck here.

Sully 01-27-2016 02:55 PM

This isn't a strike, and I'm not sure what the other strike could possibly be.

patteeu 01-27-2016 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12052555)
Good for Wolfe:

http://www.abc17news.com/news/former...ation/37666968

Man is not governed by angels and Wolfe didn't handle this mess as well as he could've, but he got absolutely railroaded and good for him for finally coming back at the University and the cowards who threw him under the bus.

Amen. I'm glad to read that. The University seems like they've dug a pretty deep hole for themselves.

Al Bundy 01-27-2016 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12052555)
Good for Wolfe:

http://www.abc17news.com/news/former...ation/37666968

Man is not governed by angels and Wolfe didn't handle this mess as well as he could've, but he got absolutely railroaded and good for him for finally coming back at the University and the cowards who threw him under the bus.

So they let people who had NO business being on the campus of Missouri run their business? It was probably that ****wad DeRay.

HonestChieffan 01-27-2016 06:54 PM

MU is ****ing over students left and right. Sad damn deal. Watch research money dry up. Cash will run to safe havens.

Jerm 01-28-2016 01:01 PM

Maty Montana dismissed from the team today...about time...

DJ's left nut 01-28-2016 01:41 PM

I hope they found something new, otherwise this is just more reactionary bullshit from a team that you would think has learned its lesson by now.

If that's a 2 year old video and he's actually cleaned himself up, I think the team owed him a better hand here. They knew about his coke problem and if they're ditching him because an old video surfaced, then it's a PR move and nothing more. It also means that the "Mizzoumade" thing - molding players into productive young men - is largely bullshit.

Either they should've shitcanned him once the coke problem initially came to light (defensible), or they should've stood by him here once evidence surfaced publicly about a problem they already knew about.

This, OTOH, is just more capitulating to the mob.

Saul Good 01-28-2016 02:10 PM

Odom said that he hasn't been holding up his end of the bargain lately.

Sully 01-28-2016 02:29 PM

I liked Mauk's handwritten letter. He takes responsibility. The former university pres could learn a lesson from him.

DJ's left nut 01-28-2016 02:39 PM

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2016/01/28/0...mauk-tmz-4.jpg

Bowser 01-28-2016 02:47 PM

The he rolled that letter up and ripped another rail.*









*stolen from Facebook

NewChief 01-28-2016 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12053887)

He needs to up his stationery game. Damn.

Gotta roll like Brady with some Crane and Co.

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...33&oe=57385FFC

gblowfish 01-28-2016 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12053887)

Say goodnight to the bad guy......

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/-Pl52xo0ox8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-02-2016 10:42 PM

Odom managed to flip Brendan Scales, a TE from Lafayette in St. Louis, who was an Alabama commit. Consider that we couldn't do that last year w/ Hentges.

They have made some nice additions to this class in the last few days.

NewChief 02-03-2016 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 12061389)
Odom managed to flip Brendan Scales, a TE from Lafayette in St. Louis, who was an Alabama commit. Consider that we couldn't do that last year w/ Hentges.

They have made some nice additions to this class in the last few days.

Saw that on tRant. That's pretty impressive, especially considering the shit show that's going on at Mizzou right now.

Congrats.

Hogs NSD is shaping up to be a bust, I'm afraid. We really went hard for some top players, but we're going to lose out in the end, unfortunately.

duncan_idaho 02-03-2016 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 12061389)
Odom managed to flip Brendan Scales, a TE from Lafayette in St. Louis, who was an Alabama commit. Consider that we couldn't do that last year w/ Hentges.

They have made some nice additions to this class in the last few days.


Had some help from Saban, who tried to get Scales to greyshirt. But still a nice flip.

I like the Mason kid they from GA. Very fast and looks like a sleeper at CB (which he didn't play until this year... Saw an opposing fan talking about how he shut down a big-time WR recruit in his district whose name escapes me, in single man coverage. The WR is being fought for by UGA/Bama, I believe.

Sully 02-03-2016 09:01 AM

Jacobs chose Bama.

Sully 02-03-2016 01:27 PM

I just love the direction Odom has taken with the coaching hires. Got Shipp today, top 25 recruiter and previous winner of assistant coach of the year. Essentially his 3rd option, but still looks like a very good hire.

I love the emphasis on recruiting in his hires, and I think the Xs and Os are pretty good, too (love Cross, ok with Heupel). Will be meeting a few of them next month at a clinic, and I'm very excited.

Mike in SW-MO 02-03-2016 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 12053015)
MU is ****ing over students left and right. Sad damn deal. Watch research money dry up. Cash will run to safe havens.

I am an MU homer.
Graduated there. Met my wife there. She graduated there.

My daughter is a straight A student & an All-State musician.

MU has been categorically eliminated as a college destination.

Yeah. This BS has consequences. I suspect we are not the only ones.
(No there will not be pics.)

bowener 02-03-2016 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike in SW-MO (Post 12062505)
I am an MU homer.
Graduated there. Met my wife there. She graduated there.

My daughter is a straight A student & an All-State musician.

MU has been categorically eliminated as a college destination.

Yeah. This BS has consequences. I suspect we are not the only ones.
(No there will not be pics.)

Did your daughter decide that?

Mike in SW-MO 02-03-2016 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 12062641)
Did your daughter decide that?

With some help. She was pretty disgusted,too.

Discuss Thrower 02-03-2016 08:17 PM

Can't imagine you're going to do any better than Mizzou in the state... outside of Wash U.

duncan_idaho 02-03-2016 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike in SW-MO (Post 12062877)
With some help. She was pretty disgusted,too.


Disgusted by what?

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-03-2016 09:54 PM

What happened with Marvin Terry?

Mike in SW-MO 02-03-2016 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12062939)
Disgusted by what?

The way a bunch of students got school administrators canned followed by the quad scene.

Mike in SW-MO 02-03-2016 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12062893)
Can't imagine you're going to do any better than Mizzou in the state... outside of Wash U.

UMKC has an outstanding music program and she is already pretty tight with the vocal group at Missouri State. MIZZOU'S program actually has a meh rep.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-03-2016 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike in SW-MO (Post 12063133)
UMKC has an outstanding music program and she is already pretty tight with the vocal group at Missouri State. MIZZOU'S program actually has a meh rep.

So, your thought is that you don't want to subsidize the University of Missouri-Columbia, so your daughter will instead attend another school that is part of the same system?

Seems well thought out.

ChiefsCountry 02-03-2016 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike in SW-MO (Post 12062505)
I am an MU homer.
Graduated there. Met my wife there. She graduated there.

My daughter is a straight A student & an All-State musician.

MU has been categorically eliminated as a college destination.

Yeah. This BS has consequences. I suspect we are not the only ones.
(No there will not be pics.)

She needs to be a Bear. Congrats I made her choice for her.

Pitt Gorilla 02-03-2016 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike in SW-MO (Post 12063133)
UMKC has an outstanding music program and she is already pretty tight with the vocal group at Missouri State. MIZZOU'S program actually has a meh rep.

Go with the best program. If that's in Columbia, go there. If not, go elsewhere.

Discuss Thrower 02-03-2016 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12063226)
She needs to be a Bear. Congrats I made her choice for her.

Missouri State isn't immune to the BLM insanity. Their Latino diversity coordinator is apparently in hot water.

WhawhaWhat 02-04-2016 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike in SW-MO (Post 12062505)
I am an MU homer.
Graduated there. Met my wife there. She graduated there.

My daughter is a straight A student & an All-State musician.

MU has been categorically eliminated as a college destination.

Yeah. This BS has consequences. I suspect we are not the only ones.
(No there will not be pics.)

Probably wants to get away from home.

Al Bundy 02-04-2016 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike in SW-MO (Post 12062505)
I am an MU homer.
Graduated there. Met my wife there. She graduated there.

My daughter is a straight A student & an All-State musician.

MU has been categorically eliminated as a college destination.

Yeah. This BS has consequences. I suspect we are not the only ones.
(No there will not be pics.)

Send her to UCF, wonderful campus, good music program, and no snow.

duncan_idaho 02-04-2016 09:41 AM

I'm not going to dive back into cs1950 stuff. Mike, hope your daughter does well, wherever she attends.

Let's talk about recruiting instead. This is a small class and it ranks low, but there are still several guys I'm excited about.

Tre Williams - real jewel of the class, IMO. Consensus opinion is that he is more explosive and has more upside than Nate Howard, who played well as a true freshman. Think Williams is the next really big star DE after Harris.

Demarea Crockett. I watch the guy's film and see a big, fast back who is best when he can make one cut and go. Actually reminds me a lot of Knile Davis coming out of Hs in that he doesn't have great vision or balance, but he's really fast and can be devastating when he builds a head of steam.

Trystan Castillo. Think he's going to be a good, nasty interior lineman. Wish they'd been able I hang on to Royce Newman to pair with him. I'd feel pretty good about this OL class in that case.

Demetrius Mason - under radar, but I like the speed/size/instincts at CB. Think he will significantly outplay his 2 -star rating.

Marvin Terry - I think he's in qualification limbo right now, but if he makes it, I love his explosiveness and ability to play OLB effectively as a rush end or in space. That's nice flexibility to have and would let Mizzou switch up fronts without subbing, which Odom seems to want to do

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-04-2016 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12063521)
I'm not going to dive back into cs1950 stuff. Mike, hope your daughter does well, wherever she attends.

Let's talk about recruiting instead. This is a small class and it ranks low, but there are still several guys I'm excited about.

Tre Williams - real jewel of the class, IMO. Consensus opinion is that he is more explosive and has more upside than Nate Howard, who played well as a true freshman. Think Williams is the next really big star DE after Harris.

Demarea Crockett. I watch the guy's film and see a big, fast back who is best when he can make one cut and go. Actually reminds me a lot of Knile Davis coming out of Hs in that he doesn't have great vision or balance, but he's really fast and can be devastating when he builds a head of steam.

Trystan Castillo. Think he's going to be a good, nasty interior lineman. Wish they'd been able I hang on to Royce Newman to pair with him. I'd feel pretty good about this OL class in that case.

Demetrius Mason - under radar, but I like the speed/size/instincts at CB. Think he will significantly outplay his 2 -star rating.

Marvin Terry - I think he's in qualification limbo right now, but if he makes it, I love his explosiveness and ability to play OLB effectively as a rush end or in space. That's nice flexibility to have and would let Mizzou switch up fronts without subbing, which Odom seems to want to do

ESPN is really down on this class compared to Rivals and 247. That's somewhat worrisome given their recent improvement in their recruiting coverage and hiring people like Crabtree, but this was never going to be the 2010 class.

duncan_idaho 02-04-2016 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 12063541)
ESPN is really down on this class compared to Rivals and 247. That's somewhat worrisome given their recent improvement in their recruiting coverage and hiring people like Crabtree, but this was never going to be the 2010 class.


It's a small class, but I do think there is still potential to get 3-4 impact guys out of it.

Coming off of the large (and well-ranked) 2015 class, it won't kill them as long as they pick things back up for the 17 class.

Discuss Thrower 02-04-2016 10:09 AM

Also the Bama WR transfer, but I'm guessing he's ineligible this year.

Sully 02-04-2016 10:12 AM

He's eligible as a graduate transfer.

Discuss Thrower 02-04-2016 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 12063572)
He's eligible as a graduate transfer.

http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-conten...HIEFS-FANS.gif

DJ's left nut 02-04-2016 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12063521)
I'm not going to dive back into cs1950 stuff. Mike, hope your daughter does well, wherever she attends.

Let's talk about recruiting instead. This is a small class and it ranks low, but there are still several guys I'm excited about.

Tre Williams - real jewel of the class, IMO. Consensus opinion is that he is more explosive and has more upside than Nate Howard, who played well as a true freshman. Think Williams is the next really big star DE after Harris.

Demarea Crockett. I watch the guy's film and see a big, fast back who is best when he can make one cut and go. Actually reminds me a lot of Knile Davis coming out of Hs in that he doesn't have great vision or balance, but he's really fast and can be devastating when he builds a head of steam.

Trystan Castillo. Think he's going to be a good, nasty interior lineman. Wish they'd been able I hang on to Royce Newman to pair with him. I'd feel pretty good about this OL class in that case.

Demetrius Mason - under radar, but I like the speed/size/instincts at CB. Think he will significantly outplay his 2 -star rating.

Marvin Terry - I think he's in qualification limbo right now, but if he makes it, I love his explosiveness and ability to play OLB effectively as a rush end or in space. That's nice flexibility to have and would let Mizzou switch up fronts without subbing, which Odom seems to want to do

Can Tyler Howell play T?

Because that dude almost certainly has the slowest feet I have ever seen. I guess simple mass will force guys to take an extra step to get around him, but I feel like those long arms and slow feet are just holding problems waiting to happen. I don't see any way he'll be able to get guys into his body to finish them. He'll be lunging as players fly by him (or simply getting flagged as he holds on for dear life).

I know he was technically last year's recruit but he's part of this class, IIRC. If he can truly be a keystone LT for us, he'll be the most important recruit in the class. I was just stunned by how slow the guys feet seem to be.

Mason was the guy that most were recruiting as a WR, right? The one that didn't play DB as a senior so he flew under the radar. If that's the same guy, I'm with you there - looks like he could be a real nice developmental candidate at CB. Probably a RS this year but it's good to see them putting some talent on that side of the ball if they shift him over.

duncan_idaho 02-04-2016 10:29 AM

With Black, the JUCO WR, and redshirts Justin Smith and Jon Johnson, there will be a lot of new faces in the mix at WR.

Can't hurt. I like the deep threat potential of Smith. Johnson and Black can hopefully make them more explosive in the slot and return games.

duncan_idaho 02-04-2016 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12063598)
Can Tyler Howell play T?

Because that dude almost certainly has the slowest feet I have ever seen. I guess simple mass will force guys to take an extra step to get around him, but I feel like those long arms and slow feet are just holding problems waiting to happen. I don't see any way he'll be able to get guys into his body to finish them. He'll be lunging as players fly by him (or simply getting flagged as he holds on for dear life).

I know he was technically last year's recruit but he's part of this class, IIRC. If he can truly be a keystone LT for us, he'll be the most important recruit in the class. I was just stunned by how slow the guys feet seem to be.

Mason was the guy that most were recruiting as a WR, right? The one that didn't play DB as a senior so he flew under the radar. If that's the same guy, I'm with you there - looks like he could be a real nice developmental candidate at CB. Probably a RS this year but it's good to see them putting some talent on that side of the ball if they shift him over.


I don't have huge hopes for Howell, especially as a LT. I could see him playing RT and being effective (especially as a run blocker)

My main hopes on the OL rest with guys not getting favored treatment "just because" and actually playing the best guys.

You're correct about Mason. Very speedy (looks like a 4.4 kid on film), played at a great GA program, moved to D as a senior (or at least focused there for the first time).

He's good in the open field, so he also might be someone you look at in the return game.

DJ's left nut 02-04-2016 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12063601)
With Black, the JUCO WR, and redshirts Justin Smith and Jon Johnson, there will be a lot of new faces in the mix at WR.

Can't hurt. I like the deep threat potential of Smith. Johnson and Black can hopefully make them more explosive in the slot and return games.

Darius White (similar situation as Black) ended up being a little underwhelming in terms of pure stats but I think his contributions as the #3 WR were a little overlooked if for no other reason than how bad this offense looked when he went down.

It seemed as though it was absolutely vital that the system have 3 quality WRs to function and when White was lost and our TE was never truly a pass catching threat, suddenly our ability to find space just evaporated. Sasser and especially Hunt looked much better when they had White out there with them drawing some attention. And obviously last season's WR corps never came together either. God...what an abortion of an offense we had last season. We have to go back to Daugherty/Farmer to even get close to that bad and frankly, last season was almost certainly worse.

Getting Black in here, even if he doesn't set the world on fire, will be huge because he's simply one more credible Division I WR and given our complete inability to generate separation last year, that was much needed. Obviously the offense will be a different animal than what we've seen in the recent past, but getting an experienced pass catcher in here for Lock has to be seen as a huge plus.

duncan_idaho 02-04-2016 11:09 AM

I see it as a plus. I see black as the slot guy, smith perhaps playing the X and being the primary deep threat with his size/speed/leaping ability (this was what White brought to the table, IMO) and Johnson being used as the second slot guy or in the Z spot.

duncan_idaho 02-04-2016 11:17 AM

I also think it will be a plus to have a guy calling plays who has more short patterns in his offense than outs (slants, drags, hot routes)

DJ's left nut 02-04-2016 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12063676)
I see it as a plus. I see black as the slot guy, smith perhaps playing the X and being the primary deep threat with his size/speed/leaping ability (this was what White brought to the table, IMO) and Johnson being used as the second slot guy or in the Z spot.

You think Brown and Moore will get stepped over that quickly?

They were disappointing, to be sure. But you really think they'll both lose their starting gigs to RSs?

WhawhaWhat 02-04-2016 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12063521)
Marvin Terry - I think he's in qualification limbo right now

I'd call it a long shot at this point.

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Dallas linebacker Marvin Terry was the first high school recruit to pledge a verbal commitment to Missouri after Barry Odom was hired as head coach, but he didn’t sign a national letter of intent with the Tigers Wednesday — or with any school.

He’s in jail.

duncan_idaho 02-04-2016 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12063706)
You think Brown and Moore will get stepped over that quickly?



They were disappointing, to be sure. But you really think they'll both lose their starting gigs to RSs?


Moore? Possibly.

I was thinking a 4-WR set, with Brown as the 4th. But Heupel will probably use the TE more.


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