I dont even think this D has peaked yet.

So Billay and this ****ing moron were allowed to call me out a few weeks into the season because I was a “fan” of the Spags hire, but I’m not allowed to do the same now that there’s actually been enough time to evaluate him?

Go **** yourself.

Of course you’d say this. You still think Spags sucks because you’re reeruned.

Please tell me outside of 2 seasons on Spags’ track record makes you think he’s a good hire.

Is this a serious question?

It’s pretty obvious he was a good hire 13 games into the season. There’s no need to even talk about the past. Have you watched the Chiefs at all?

Given Spygate 2.0 and Spags' proven success against Belicheat, it's looking like a pretty good hire. Of course a few weeks ago there was a lot of despair about the defense after the Titans game. Guess time will tell over the long haul. Hopefully they can get some better linebackers in the draft.

Sample size.

And POs haven’t happened yet.

Bullshit. The improvement is very clear 13 games in. Whether it’s coaching, scheme, adjustments, communication etc. it’s been a significant improvement across the board.

They deactivated Pennel for that game. Huge mistake. Spags appears to have learned from it

Dude. Spags has been a huge improvement from last year.

It's silly to say otherwise.

We get it. Spags was a terrible head coach, and you had to suffer through the brunt of it. Sorry to hear that.

He's not a head coach here. He's a defensive coordinator. And through his DC record outside of NY looks pretty pitiful, he's a clear ****ing upgrade over Sutton. I think coaches evolve and a lot of it depends on support, both from the rest of the coaching staff as well as the players.

Spagnuolo CAN field a great defense. He's had trouble more often than not, but he's demonstrated before that he can do it, and it really wasn't all that long ago when he did it.

In the meantime, what we have to judge him is that YES the defense in KC is unequivocally improved from last year, and the scheme/system appears to be a better fit moving forward in terms of finding the talent to play within the scheme and make it work. The LBs are FAR less of a liability this year, and the defensive line is drastically improved. I think it would have been a lot harder to keep Sutton and magically procure a starting NT, new ILBs, new safeties, and new CBs who didn't suck in his shitty 3-4 that Tony Romo could call out and predict doom upon in the goddamn AFC Championship.

It has definitely improved but we'll see how they do in the playoffs. If they do good rest of the season but then in the playoffs get lit up it won't mean much.

So while I am as excited as anyone here I'm cautious because we all know the history of this franchise in the postseason. Lets see how the rest of the season plays out. So far so good but I've seen this story before. Hopefully the ending is different this time.

You are spot on my friend !!!:thumb: This defense only gets better because these players are now starting to get Spags schemes down and what he wants specifically each game. You can really see that they are truly a solidified unit out there playing as a team and for each other.

What a difference a year makes

Saw these tweets randomly on twitter.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There is zero accountability on that side of the football. Zero. Justin Hamilton calling out Houston and it&#39;s December and no can get aligned. No accountability from Andy to Bob to the position coaches to the players. Embarrassing. <a href="https://t.co/v1w8TKrfWp">https://t.co/v1w8TKrfWp</a></p>&mdash; Kent Swanson (@kent_swanson) <a href="https://twitter.com/kent_swanson/status/1073592277828861953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 14, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs 2019 defensive DVOA ratings compared to last year<br><br>2018:<br> Total rank -26th<br> Pass defense -12th<br> Run defense -32nd<br> Schedule strength -14th<br> Points allowed -24th<br><br>2019:<br> Total rank -13th<br> Pass defense -6th<br> Run defense -30th<br> Schedule strength -1st<br> Points allowed -14th</p>&mdash; Kansas City Media (@KansasCityMedia) <a href="https://twitter.com/KansasCityMedia/status/1204906884651798529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

In regards to the 30th ranked run defense, they’ve gotten much better there as the season has progressed. 8 weeks ago they were awful. Since the Denver game they are 12th in the league in run defense.

102 yards per game since the Denver game

83 not counting TEN

Tell me more about sweet Bob, Billay...

How about the games with Pennel and without him?

They need to give the guy a 2-3 year extension.

Plus he's always been a huge Chiefs fan!

How bout we see how we do in the playoffs?

I'm a Spaggot.

Spags looks like he can handle the job. He's already shown himself to be a ton better than Sutton.

https://relevantmagazine.com/wp-cont...9.10.48-AM.png

Bro, you're cousins?

Spags is sexy.

He’s helped bring some much needed edge to this defense (as has HB and Clark).

Love the attitude I’ve been seeing on the field from the defense the last few weeks.

Yeah I don't believe we need to do that but okay.

Spags has been a difference maker. The defense believes.

Competence, the ability to concentrate, and staying awake during games are very important!

For the fourth time in his career Steve Spagnuolo has taken a bad/average defensive unit and turned them into something significantly better. With less talent than what the previous DC had at his disposal. Tip of the hat . . .

Spags can stick around. Love the dude's passion, and clearly the players do too. Chiefs made the absolute best of their offseason!

this is what I was saying.

People were all like-well, sometimes he's good, sometimes he's shit.

But context is everything.

Everywhere he's gone, his defense gets better, and usually within a year or so.

The only exceptions were unstable head coaching/front office situations.

We're stable here. Perfect situation for Spags to flourish.

Tied for 10th in points allowed after struggling early. Amazing

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Through 15 weeks of the season (MNF won&#39;t matter, both teams already have more points scored than KC), the Chiefs defense is officially Top 10 in points per game.<br><br>They&#39;re tied with Denver at 20.3 PPG on the season. <a href="https://t.co/n3hm4ljcyi">https://t.co/n3hm4ljcyi</a></p>&mdash; Craig Stout (@barleyhop) <a href="https://twitter.com/barleyhop/status/1206593454572216322?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Spags may just of been the biggest hire in Chiefs history in the past 7 years

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just rewatched the <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/Broncos?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Broncos</a> <br><br>The Chiefs 1-53 and/or both sides of the ball may be the fastest team in the league. And this was on snow...<br><br>Their defense runs to the ball with SPEED</p>&mdash; Dan Orlovsky (@danorlovsky7) <a href="https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/status/1206638582460489728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Few DCs are miracle workers. I don't think Spags is a miracle worker, but he's an experienced coordinator who tries lots of new things and knows how to get a group of players to play team defense. And I think a lot of people just looked at the stints with that abortion post-bountygate Saints team and the talentless Giants teams from 2015-2017 and just assumed the guy couldn't coach.

Back when we were waiting for Sutton to get fired, people brought up how scheme/coordinator are kind of irrelevant if the talent and the culture of rock solid defense is there on the team, and how if those things AREN'T in place, pretty much any DC is going to struggle. It's clear right now that KC has enough talent in place to not suck on defense, but Spags still deserves a ton of credit for getting that talent to buy in and play as a team-- it's something Sutton CLEARLY struggled to maintain in his time here.

Again, they're not the greatest defense ever, but they're playing up to the expectations we had-- and probably way above that. It's been YEARS since our run defense looked this good. A whole bunch of the Sutton "leftovers" like Ward, Sorensen, Kpassagnon, Nnadi, and even Ragland have really improved and stepped up in the midst of this transition. Just about every new addition is a positive contributor to this team when they get snaps-- Wilson, Okafor, Pennel, Saunders, Honey Badger, Breeland, and... yes, I'll say it... as of late, Frank Clark. That's also not including someone like Ogbah who was one of our best pass rushers until he went on IR.

Yeah, I'd say he's pretty good. Maybe he did lose his way for a bit there, but he's clearly found it again after taking that year off from coaching.

Somebody get this man a cookie

And nobody's close to getting old except Sorenson who speed was never part of his game anyway.

Clearest thing about Spags is that he can communicate and players like him. Has a lot of energy.

Sutton was old and out of touch.

I’m just a ****ing homer what do I know :D

You gave positions on both sides of the fence regarding Spags and Veach

Oh go **** yourself.

I was critical early on because there was reason to be. That’s it.

I'll eat crow on Spags, I'm still worried about run defense, but pass defense and pass rush has been pretty damn good.

We all were. But many people when the hiring was announced just said, "He's had shitty defenses in New Orleans and most recently with the Giants. He sucks. Bad hire. Chiefs lose again."

Granted, he's got an all-world assemblage of position coaches helping him out. Is the improved run defense more about Spags or our "run game coordinator" Brandon Daly? If the Chiefs keep improving and playing defense like this, many of these coaches are going to get promotions and leave the team, and then we'll see how valuable they were.

But until then, everything's coming up Spags.

I will and when I finish can I do it on your chest?

What about this weekend worries you about the run defense?

Clancy Pendergast spouting mother****er ROFL

Bronco's are not a dominate run team, so using a good game vs them is not going to hold weight in my estimation.

I worry about us falling behind and a team grinding out the clock vs us.

If i've said it once i've said it a thousand times....

SPAGS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Deal with it Bitches!

It's the exact thing that happened Texan/Colts games. (Tenn was Special Teams - and GB Clearly no Mahomes)

We got out to leads in both games, but they just kept running. It worries me, if a team has a talented runner with decent enough O-line keeping Mahomes on bench.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Crazy stat of the day: <br><br>The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Patriots</a> ‘historic’ secondary has allowed 138 receptions to wide receivers this season.<br><br>The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> have allowed a league-low 132. <br><br>Spags has completely turned this defense around (via <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeClayNFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MikeClayNFL</a>) <a href="https://t.co/KiiVrQobCI">pic.twitter.com/KiiVrQobCI</a></p>&mdash; The Reid Option (@ReidOptionKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ReidOptionKC/status/1206678686776385536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Flying under the radar is how amazing Ward has been this year.

Careful. Detoxing will steal this as his avatar in reference to Brittany.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AZCardinals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AZCardinals</a> pass-rusher Terrell Suggs was claimed by the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>, source said.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1206682003426435080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 16, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

No Rapshert????????????? really? WOW

guess it's legit nice move.

Yeah he got ****ed yesterday on that piss poor call against him. Wards going to be great

I haven't been this excited about our secondary since Hasty/Carter - and even going back to the big 4 - Lewis/Burrus/Cherry/Ross.

It's hard to say for sure but you have to assume there's a major coaching component to the ascendance of Ward and Fenton, and the secondary getting better and better every week. Also HB's leadership.

Bad thing is, that he's going to have to pretty much do a minor rebuild again this off-season. Off the top of my head, our free agents list on defense is kinda long. I believe that Fuller, Claiborne, and Breeland are all FA in the corner group, Sorenson may have one year left, the other safeties are good for longer, linebackers, Ragland I believe is a FA. Seems like Wilson and/or Lee may be one year guys. But linebackers need fresh blood anyway. On the line, the obvious one is Jones. Will we be able to keep him or will he be tagged and traded? We know that he wants, and has earned, a big contract. Kpass is in his final year. I believe that Okafor and Ogbah were one year guys too. We obviously are going to lose several guys.

Keep Breeland and sign Jones imo. Everyone else is expendable unless you can get a team-friendly deal.

Pennel and Ragland only played 11 snaps apiece and we still stopped the run reasonably well.

This defense is awesome.

I love at the end of the Bears game- Spags is running a corner blitz to try to close it out instead of sitting back in the prevent letting Tribs pile up junk yards on us.

That is the way you close out a game!

Did you guys notice how the Bears came out running read options, and after the first two plays the Chiefs shut that shit down the rest of the night?

We are going to be WELL PREPARED for the Ravens.

They made Tribisky pay for it every time he ran. I think after the 3rd hard tackle it really took the steam out of Tribs to keep running up the middle. They were tagging him pretty good.

LMAO

Not that Turdbiski is anywhere near the runner Lamar is, I hope we punish Lamar every time he tucks it.

Facing the Bills with Allen would be a good practice game to get them ready for Lamarvelous. If the Bills were smart they’d have Allen run more.

That was ****ing awesome, we never run that prevent d bullshit anymore

Exactly, now all these guys that just look at stats can not try to change the narrative, which was, the Chief's D dominated that game.

Tribs getting a junk TD at the end would have gave them some hope that he did not suck as bad as he did- but Spags was having none of it. It was great to see that Killer Instinct to close out a game.

your mom is boring

Pats were clearly working on a lot of deceptive and power run plays vs. the Bills. They know Brady dropping back 50 times is suboptimal. I hope Spags is ready.

Discuss Thrower with a shit take per usual LMAO

this ****

About to cum thinking of how this defense will be even BETTER next year and the years to come

We're about to have a top 10 defense and top 10 offense for the next 3-4 seasons.

Our window is NOW.

HOLD THIS L

Hamas has yet to eat crow on Spags or even give him credit, but he was quick to judge a few weeks in. I can’t stand that ****ing guy.

That loser preferred John ****ing Pagano ROFL

Great hire!


https://youtu.be/ctcVhjG9fVc

Spags is gonna be ready for Lamar’s running bullshit.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">KC played a lot of dime to deal with Trubisky&#39;s legs, and the read options they use<br><br>CHI tried running at it, but KC held them to 66 yards on 15 carries (4.4 YPC)<br><br>1. Clark holds edge<br>2. Fuller is outside contain player, holds block from tackle<br>3. Suggs comes scraping across play <a href="https://t.co/23p7rAscwz">pic.twitter.com/23p7rAscwz</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@NateCh479) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateCh479/status/1209303932595580933?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Spags ran this front a lot against BAL in week 3. We’re much better at setting edge with Reggie and Harris this time. Keep an eye out on this trend <a href="https://t.co/c0n1PBflFT">https://t.co/c0n1PBflFT</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@NateCh479) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateCh479/status/1207639090516107272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's PFF good instead of their usual grasping at straws bad.

Watching Spags blitzes are so fun. He makes it so hard for QB’s to know exactly what the hell we are doing pre-snap.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Spags sent A LOT at Trubisky in coverage this week, but one of his favorite cover shells was calling this Tampa 2 type coverage<br><br>Putting guys near the LoS forces the QB to switch to a different protection call, putting more guys in, and the Tampa 2 keeps everything deep contained <a href="https://t.co/wEzORp7vNN">pic.twitter.com/wEzORp7vNN</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@NateCh479) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateCh479/status/1209310359049383936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It wasn&#39;t just coverages, also the blitzes as well<br><br>1. Protection sent to right to deal with MIKE LB<br>2. Sorenson crashes inside B gap<br>3. Clark contain player<br>4. Breeland comes flying off edge, gets easy pressure <a href="https://t.co/6dT68QedAQ">pic.twitter.com/6dT68QedAQ</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@NateCh479) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateCh479/status/1209313178385031169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I didn’t notice this but Spags has played Fuller deep at safety more often and a lot of the time he does that he’s having Honey Badger roaming up front

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kendall Fuller played a really good game on Sunday on some rewatches<br><br>He was around the ball a lot, looked explosive downhill, and was communicating the coverage calls well. He wasn&#39;t asked to cover as a CB much, but as a S, he&#39;s found a nice role</p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@NateCh479) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateCh479/status/1209320063360290816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kendall Fuller played his best game he had played all season, mainly at deep safety<br><br>Does a nice job against this Mesh route over the middle, screaming down alley for a tackle<br><br>Fuller brings more range than Sorenson, quick change of ability speed. He&#39;s found a home at safety <a href="https://t.co/bfOj1m5CNM">pic.twitter.com/bfOj1m5CNM</a></p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@NateCh479) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateCh479/status/1209311381876592640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Spags is a ****ing genious.

The fact we can stop the run with our front 7 now allows us to get super creative with the back end.