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O.city 03-14-2021 06:04 PM

The chiefs had to change up some things offensively due to the ol and their star young qb got the shit beat out of him all year

They ain’t doin that again

No way

UChieffyBugger 03-14-2021 06:06 PM

Imo we should try and get two expierienced tackles at modeat prices. And then draft a left tackle high so we have four tackles on the books who can battle for places.

Niang rt
Free agent rt
Draft lt
Free agent lt

This way we could have our two tackles moving forward whilst also having security with the two vets on short deals. It would also take the pressure off of the young tackles and let them develop through the season and learn...if they are ready then great, if not then it's not gonna kill our season hopefully.

-King- 03-14-2021 06:08 PM

I guess we're going to make the restructures/extensions as we go? I thought they'd clear more space by now.

OnTheWarpath15 03-14-2021 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15584382)
I guess we're going to make the restructures/extensions as we go? I thought they'd clear more space by now.

Yeah, I had kinda assumed he'd clear as much space as possible to be set up.

With that said, not worried a bit. It's nice having a goddamn magician as your GM.

O.city 03-14-2021 06:13 PM

Maybe they’ve done all the money moving and it just hasn’t reported yet?

RunKC 03-14-2021 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15584393)
Maybe they’ve done all the money moving and it just hasn’t reported yet?

They’re still over the cap and must be under by the 17th so I expect Patrick’s restructure to be announced tomorrow

O.city 03-14-2021 06:20 PM

I mean do we really think they’re gonna trot out something talent wise on the ol like they did in the sb?

There’s just no damn way

Chief Roundup 03-14-2021 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15584400)
They’re still over the cap and must be under by the 17th so I expect Patrick’s restructure to be announced tomorrow

No sir we are under by $12 Million.

Chief Northman 03-14-2021 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15584393)
Maybe they’ve done all the money moving and it just hasn’t reported yet?

They will make/report moves as they need them. Veach did this last year. As many free-agent plans as the Chiefs may have, remember the players do have the right to say no. If there’s a deal to be struck, the brass will make the necessary cap moves to accommodate.

Chris Meck 03-14-2021 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 15584418)
They will make/report moves as they need them. Veach did this last year. As many free-agent plans as the Chiefs may have, remember the players do have the right to say no. If there’s a deal to be struck, the brass will make the necessary cap moves to accommodate.

maybe it's all a part of the poker hand.

Don't let 'em know exactly what you've got.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-14-2021 06:57 PM

I fully expect Veach rn is talking to honey Badger and his agent. Hell Veach does t sleep, wouldn’t be surprised if tomorrow they announce a Honey Badger extension

-King- 03-14-2021 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15584425)
maybe it's all a part of the poker hand.

Don't let 'em know exactly what you've got.

What sense does that make?

The Franchise 03-14-2021 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15584467)
What sense does that make?

“The Chiefs don’t have the money to go after Trent Williams.”

Veach restructures a contract and signs Trent Williams.

Surprised Pikachu face.

duncan_idaho 03-14-2021 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15584467)
What sense does that make?


Negotiating power. Easier to negotiate deals when the agent can’t say “you have X of cap space.”

-King- 03-14-2021 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15584471)
“The Chiefs don’t have the money to go after Trent Williams.”

Veach restructures a contract and signs Trent Williams.

Surprised Pikachu face.

Yeah but who are they playing poker with in that analogy?

It just seems Veach will restructure contracts as he goes/when he needs to and doesn't want to do a bunch all at once unnecessarily.

-King- 03-14-2021 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15584475)
Negotiating power. Easier to negotiate deals when the agent can’t say “you have X of cap space.”

Do you think agents are dumb or something and don't know which contracts can and should be restructured?

If someone like Williams is interested in playing with the Chiefs, his agent already knows what moves the chiefs need to make to sign him. And on top of that, he's already talked to people, maybe even Veach himself to make sure the numbers will be right.

Chris Meck 03-14-2021 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15584480)
Do you think agents are dumb or something and don't know which contracts can and should be restructured?

If someone like Williams is interested in playing with the Chiefs, his agent already knows what moves the chiefs need to make to sign him. And on top of that, he's already talked to people, maybe even Veach himself to make sure the numbers will be right.

they absolutely know what contracts we CAN restructure, but can only speculate what contracts we WANT to restructure. They don't know what our plans are for 2021, let alone '22 or '23. They don't know who is in the future plans and who's not.

Knowing what the team has to spend and is WILLING to spend gives the agent ammunition.

Not knowing leaves it a guessing game.

You've never played poker I see.

New World Order 03-14-2021 07:46 PM

The calm before the storm...

-King- 03-14-2021 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15584500)
they absolutely know what contracts we CAN restructure, but can only speculate what contracts we WANT to restructure. They don't know what our plans are for 2021, let alone '22 or '23. They don't know who is in the future plans and who's not.

Knowing what the team has to spend and is WILLING to spend gives the agent ammunition.

Not knowing leaves it a guessing game.

You've never played poker I see.

Wed stand to lose more than gain in this scenario. The player could just be like, welp ok, I'll just go to the team that's willing to sign me for what I want/what's reasonable rather than the team that won't restructure obvious contracts to afford me. There's basically no plus side to doing this as a poker move. Any agent would be able to see right through the BS.

-King- 03-14-2021 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 15584504)
The calm before the storm...

Free agency > The draft IMO. I can't wait.

saphojunkie 03-14-2021 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15584368)
Remmers was actually one of 3 starting OTs that were in the top 10 of each in run and pass blocking

Remmers sucks

The Franchise 03-14-2021 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15584564)
Wed stand to lose more than gain in this scenario. The player could just be like, welp ok, I'll just go to the team that's willing to sign me for what I want/what's reasonable rather than the team that won't restructure obvious contracts to afford me. There's basically no plus side to doing this as a poker move. Any agent would be able to see right through the BS.

Veach is going to offer what they want to pay. If it doesn’t meet what Williams wants....then he’ll leave. It is what it is. How many contracts we have to restructure to do it doesn’t matter.

That’s always been FA.

saphojunkie 03-14-2021 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15584576)
Veach is going to offer what they want to pay. If it doesn’t meet what Williams wants....then he’ll leave. It is what it is. How many contracts we have to restructure to do it doesn’t matter.

That’s always been FA.

The Mahomes factor doesn't work on every free agent, no matter how much we want to believe it.

"Player X is over 30 years old, they want a ring!" ORRRR they want to cash in as big as they ****ing can before they retire at 35.

-King- 03-14-2021 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15584576)
Veach is going to offer what they want to pay. If it doesn’t meet what Williams wants....then he’ll leave. It is what it is. How many contracts we have to restructure to do it doesn’t matter.

That’s always been FA.

Yeah...that's basically what I said lol. That's why the poker thing didn't make any sense.

saphojunkie 03-14-2021 08:52 PM

Calling my shot that Trent Williams stays in SF, KC signs a different OL. Linsley goes somewhere stupid never to be heard from again. Honey Badger gets extended. Jones converts portion of roster bonus, freeing up more space. KC signs free agent linebacker. KC re-signs Dirty Dan.

We draft Rashod Bateman.

mkp785 03-14-2021 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 15584626)
Calling my shot that Trent Williams stays in SF, KC signs a different OL. Linsley goes somewhere stupid never to be heard from again. Honey Badger gets extended. Jones converts portion of roster bonus, freeing up more space. KC signs free agent linebacker. KC re-signs Dirty Dan.

We draft Rashod Bateman.

Love to get Thuney if we don't sign Williams for whatever reason. He's only 28 so he would be at elite level for the duration of a 5 year deal.

Chris Meck 03-14-2021 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15584564)
Wed stand to lose more than gain in this scenario. The player could just be like, welp ok, I'll just go to the team that's willing to sign me for what I want/what's reasonable rather than the team that won't restructure obvious contracts to afford me. There's basically no plus side to doing this as a poker move. Any agent would be able to see right through the BS.

Okay, I think I'm done trying to explain simple strategy.

Titty Meat 03-14-2021 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 15584626)
Calling my shot that Trent Williams stays in SF, KC signs a different OL. Linsley goes somewhere stupid never to be heard from again. Honey Badger gets extended. Jones converts portion of roster bonus, freeing up more space. KC signs free agent linebacker. KC re-signs Dirty Dan.

We draft Rashod Bateman.

If this happens we'll have an even better team than the last 2 years. Bateman is a stud and Williams is an elite tackle

Sofa King 03-14-2021 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15584697)
If this happens we'll have an even better team than the last 2 years. Bateman is a stud and Williams is an elite tackle

Williams wouldn't be here in that situation though.

Priest31kc 03-14-2021 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 15584626)
Calling my shot that Trent Williams stays in SF, KC signs a different OL. Linsley goes somewhere stupid never to be heard from again. Honey Badger gets extended. Jones converts portion of roster bonus, freeing up more space. KC signs free agent linebacker. KC re-signs Dirty Dan.

We draft Rashod Bateman.

Bateman is my draft crush so I approve of that very much

Titty Meat 03-14-2021 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 15584704)
Williams wouldn't be here in that situation though.

Yeah I misread the stays in SF part.

BossChief 03-14-2021 11:49 PM

SF just inked their FB for 5 years 27 million.

Wow

For a 30 year old fullback

duncan_idaho 03-15-2021 08:15 AM

I'm listening to the RGR podcast.

I don't think Derrick is being very creative in thought... when he says "I don't see how the Chiefs can afford Trent Williams" it just is silly.

He should understand what the Chiefs are able to create it cap room. Yeah, it would take roughly half of what the Chiefs CAN free up with the Kelce, Jones restructures and Mathieu extension (in AAV), but they certainly can afford Williams if they want to and he wants to be in KC to chase a ring.

MahomesMagic 03-15-2021 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15584860)
I'm listening to the RGR podcast.

I don't think Derrick is being very creative in thought... when he says "I don't see how the Chiefs can afford Trent Williams" it just is silly.

He should understand what the Chiefs are able to create it cap room. Yeah, it would take roughly half of what the Chiefs CAN free up with the Kelce, Jones restructures and Mathieu extension (in AAV), but they certainly can afford Williams if they want to and he wants to be in KC to chase a ring.

Yes, we didn't cut both tackles without a plan to add a big piece.

duncan_idaho 03-15-2021 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15584864)
Yes, we didn't cut both tackles without a plan to add a big piece.

I mean, maybe the plan is Villanueva or Reiff + Thuney. Or a trade/extension. Or something like that.

Rausch 03-15-2021 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 15584626)
Calling my shot that Trent Williams stays in SF, KC signs a different OL. Linsley goes somewhere stupid never to be heard from again. Honey Badger gets extended. Jones converts portion of roster bonus, freeing up more space. KC signs free agent linebacker. KC re-signs Dirty Dan.

If Dan is willing to take less he's good depth or box safety. I don't like him deep.

Veach doesn't seem to want to touch LB. We really need an upgrade at Weak and Mike, and I know the dead cap, but sometimes you have to eat the mistake...

MahomesMagic 03-15-2021 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15584901)
I mean, maybe the plan is Villanueva or Reiff + Thuney. Or a trade/extension. Or something like that.

Or tackle and Corey Linsley.

Chris Meck 03-15-2021 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 15584908)
If Dan is willing to take less he's good depth or box safety. I don't like him deep.

Veach doesn't seem to want to touch LB. We really need an upgrade at Weak and Mike, and I know the dead cap, but sometimes you have to eat the mistake...

whaddya mean? We just used a #2 pick last year.

Dante84 03-15-2021 08:57 AM

Here's Nick Jacobs on possible FA DE/EDGE targets:

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Romeo Okwara, Lions
Height: 6'4", Weight: 263, Age: 25

Okwara is built a lot like Taco Charlton but he packs a punch as a pass rusher. He is very athletic around the edge and has one of the best bends coming onto the market. He is a solid bull rusher but his deep and rip can be downright lethal. He is a high-energy edge rusher and is relentless in chasing down the ball carrier. Okwara is capable of rushing from both sides but going against the right tackle looks more natural for him. He has a minor hitch in his hips when he changes direction and accelerates, but once he gets turned he gets to the target quickly.


Trey Hendrickson, Saints
Height: 6'4", Weight: 270 , Age: 26

Hendrickson is a high energy football player. He has sneaky acceleration that offensive linemen don't realize at times until it is too late. He has a good dip and rip. Hendrickson is able to convert speed into power with his bull rushes. He can twist, loop and run games with the best of them. He does a good job of reading the fake before crashing down the line of scrimmage. A solid change of direction and a good feel for how to defeat the tackle. The downside of Hendrickson is that he rushed from the left tackle side and would likely need to play more of a leo role, which is currently occupied by Frank Clark. Hendrickson shines when he is allowed to show off his high energy and acceleration as an edge rusher. He will likely get a double-digit offer on the market with what he put on tape.

Jadeveon Clowney, Titans
Height: 6'5", Weight: 255, Age: 28

Clowney is another player coming off of injury. He had surgery on his left meniscus in early December. The Titans had him reading and reacting too much in their scheme while being a standup edge rusher. Clowney is at his best when he is allowed to use his speed and strength to attack upfield. He still had elite acceleration and closing speed before the knee injury. Clowney can still shoot a gap with the best of them and cause massive disruption in the backfield. The medicals will be crucial to get him a number he is likely looking for on the open market.

Matt Judon, Ravens
Height: 6'3", Weight: 260, Age: 28

Judon appears to be more comfortable rushing against the right tackle. He has solid acceleration and a good dip, rip and bend to go with it. He could hold the edge on both sides. Judon has to strength to overpower a tight end and hold his own against a tackle. He shoots the gap well on plays. Judon seems to be a little hesitant when diagnosing the run in the backfield. He doesn't give on plays though and is willing to chase down the ball carrier even if it is 20 yards downfield. He will likely get good money on the market and might be out of the price range of the role he would command in Kansas City.

Aldon Smith, Cowboys
Height: 6'5", Weight: 255, Age: 31

Smith isn't the same rusher he was in his prime. He still has good athletic ability and can maintain from the edge to the sideline but the overwhelming athletic ability didn't flash on tape. He still has a solid bull rush along with a good dip and rip. He is capable of rushing from multiple sides on the line. Smith still has good strength to keep offensive linemen at arm's length, disengage and make the tackle at the line. He could be a good rotational rusher but likely isn't a full-time starter.

Von Miller, Broncos
Height: 6'3", Weight: 250, Age: 31

The Broncos will likely have make a decision on Miller before the new league year begins. He is currently not a free agent, but the team can decline his option making him one. The evaluation is based on before his injury last season. Miller is capable of rushing from both sides on the line. His production is similar regardless of the side. Miller understands every rush move in the book and how to properly hand fight as well as use his leverage. He still has enough athletic ability in the tank to give tackles problems. He reads the backfield well and disengages from blocks to try and make a play. He isn't the elite rusher he once was but he still is better than what the Chiefs had opposite of Frank Clark last season when Taco Charlton wasn't in.

Bud Dupree, Steelers
Height: 6'4", Weight: 269, Age 28

Dupree is coming off an ACL injury at a less than ideal time. Teams will likely wonder how the injury has impacted his acceleration and ability to change directions. Those are massive parts of his game in both the run and pass. Dupree is stronger than expected with long arms. He is quick around the corner and has a good dip to go with it. He comes crashing hard down the line of scrimmage to blow up the ball carrier and can come a little bit uncontrolled around the edge at times. It will be interesting to see what price he gets on the open market. He primarily rushed against left tackles last season.

Solomon Thomas, 49ers
Height: 6'2", Weight: 280, Age: 25

Thomas is coming off a torn ACL sustained in September of last year. He is a solid run defender that has good strength. He has solid athletic ability running down the line of scrimmage for his size. He can hold the line of scrimmage and could likely hold the edge in the run game against a right tackle. Thomas was able to loop, twist and pull before the injury with effectiveness. He shouldn't break the bank but could provide the Chiefs a good run defender that could move around the line similar to Emmanuel Ogbah.

Olivier Vernon, Browns
Height: 6'2", Weight: 262, Age: 30

Vernon is coming off a ruptured Achilles in week 17. He had lost a step athletically but was able to make up for it with his strength and overall size. He looked comfortable rushing the right tackle. He is able to utilize more of a bull-rushing power style and maintain the edge before his injury. The medical will be important for when he could get back on the field and regain the ability he had before.

saphojunkie 03-15-2021 09:27 AM

Well, Jones restructured. Maybe there’s hope for my Bateman prediction!

saphojunkie 03-15-2021 09:28 AM

I’m less worried about edge because I am a believer in both Danna and Wharton taking another step forward and the DL getting better.

I’d prefer to see us not have three 100m men on the DL.

htismaqe 03-15-2021 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 15584908)
If Dan is willing to take less he's good depth or box safety. I don't like him deep.

Veach doesn't seem to want to touch LB. We really need an upgrade at Weak and Mike, and I know the dead cap, but sometimes you have to eat the mistake...

Willie Gay?

htismaqe 03-15-2021 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15584901)
I mean, maybe the plan is Villanueva or Reiff + Thuney. Or a trade/extension. Or something like that.

Villanueva isn't that good, though.

htismaqe 03-15-2021 09:32 AM

Here's the chart posted earlier in the thread, a couple of days ago.

Villanueva is actually TERRIBLE according to this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwT7RosX...jpg&name=large

OKchiefs 03-15-2021 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15584974)
Here's the chart posted earlier in the thread, a couple of days ago.

Villanueva is actually TERRIBLE according to this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwT7RosX...jpg&name=large

That same metric doesn’t exactly make Fisher look all that great either.

CasselGotPeedOn 03-15-2021 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15584974)
Here's the chart posted earlier in the thread, a couple of days ago.

Villanueva is actually TERRIBLE according to this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwT7RosX...jpg&name=large

God damn, Garett Bolles must've improved tenfold....

BossChief 03-15-2021 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 15584982)
God damn, Garett Bolles must've improved tenfold....

He was really good last year.

Sassy Squatch 03-15-2021 09:41 AM

Jets seem to be after the same thing we are, OL, WR, and DE. That's a bit annoying considering their cap space

htismaqe 03-15-2021 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 15584979)
That same metric doesn’t exactly make Fisher look all that great either.

Eric Fisher is a league average pass blocker and slightly below average run blocker according to that.

Vllianueva is slightly above average in run blocking but the 2nd-worst starting tackle in the league in terms of pass blocking.

The whole reason for these moves is to protect Mahomes. Somebody that is that bad at pass blocking has no business being signed.

BossChief 03-15-2021 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15584991)
Eric Fisher is a league average pass blocker and slightly below average run blocker according to that.

Vllianueva is slightly above average in run blocking but the 2nd-worst starting tackle in the league in terms of pass blocking.

The whole reason for these moves is to protect Mahomes. Somebody that is that bad at pass blocking has no business being signed.

You know who is good at pass blocking though?

Goldfinger

Hammock Parties 03-15-2021 09:46 AM

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VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-15-2021 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15584989)
He was really good last year.

I still remember Sneed straight up trucking Bolles

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-15-2021 10:00 AM

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duncan_idaho 03-15-2021 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15585028)
Jason LacanDouche

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We’re gonna miss you for the month you’re gone.

O.city 03-15-2021 10:36 AM

Go back to SF and block for Jimmy G or come to KC and play with Andy and Mahomes.

duncan_idaho 03-15-2021 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15585159)
Go back to SF and block for Jimmy G or come to KC and play with Andy and Mahomes.


Yeah, if the money is at all similar KC makes a really compelling case.

Better odds to win SB
Better QB
Lower state taxes

htismaqe 03-15-2021 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15585092)
We’re gonna miss you for the month you’re gone.

https://external-content.duckduckgo....260&f=1&nofb=1

MahomesKnows 03-15-2021 11:23 AM

If Veach can get Williams, Reddick and a guy like Jones in FA, we'd be able to do whatever we want in the draft.

duncan_idaho 03-15-2021 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesKnows (Post 15585328)
If Veach can get Williams, Reddick Von Miller/Aldon Smith/an actual LE and a guy like Jones in FA, we'd be able to do whatever we want in the draft.

FYP

BossChief 03-15-2021 11:35 AM

Williams
Linsley
Von

Hammock Parties 03-15-2021 11:43 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Look for number 71 because well people who wear 71 are next level. TAKE EM TO CHURCH Trent Williams. <a href="https://t.co/MtxVbUWzaV">pic.twitter.com/MtxVbUWzaV</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1371516813499113473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

htismaqe 03-15-2021 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 15585355)
Williams
Linsley
Von

Lindsey Vonn.

mkp785 03-15-2021 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkp785 (Post 15584657)
Love to get Thuney if we don't sign Williams for whatever reason. He's only 28 so he would be at elite level for the duration of a 5 year deal.

;););)

mkp785 03-15-2021 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkp785 (Post 15583368)
If we can't get TW, then 100% down for a Joe Thuney signing.

**** Yes!!

Let's go. Best guard available and makes it so we can move Allegretti to C. Making 2 spots better at the same time

Titty Meat 03-15-2021 02:29 PM

Hmm

https://mobile.twitter.com/MattVerde...93576295735297

KChiefs1 03-15-2021 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15585817)


Please!

Pitt Gorilla 03-15-2021 02:32 PM

Would love to get Linsley now.

BleedingRed 03-15-2021 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15585828)
Would love to get Linsley now.

Draft is deep with O-line this year and people dont value centers so we would be better off drafting one imo

KChiefs1 03-15-2021 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 15585847)
Draft is deep with O-line this year and people dont value centers so we would be better off drafting one imo


Meinerz

saphojunkie 03-15-2021 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 15584626)
Calling my shot that Trent Williams stays in SF, KC signs a different OL. Linsley goes somewhere stupid never to be heard from again. Honey Badger gets extended. Jones converts portion of roster bonus, freeing up more space. KC signs free agent linebacker. KC re-signs Dirty Dan.

We draft Rashod Bateman.

2 down

KChiefs1 03-15-2021 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 15585950)
2 down


You are a ****ing genius!

Dante84 03-15-2021 03:49 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Raiders address their biggest need with one of the best pure pass rushers available. If they can sign an interior rusher, they’ll likely draft a RT early. <a href="https://t.co/GDGzewh0x1">https://t.co/GDGzewh0x1</a></p>&mdash; Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) <a href="https://twitter.com/FB_FilmAnalysis/status/1371578886283173890?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dante84 03-15-2021 03:50 PM

Looks like they are going to have a formidable duo in him and Crosby, and after watching the SB, I'd sure as hell be investing in pass rushers if I was in the AFC West also.

All the more reason to bring in Williams.

htismaqe 03-15-2021 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15586097)
Looks like they are going to have a formidable duo in him and Crosby, and after watching the SB, I'd sure as hell be investing in pass rushers if I was in the AFC West also.

All the more reason to bring in Williams.

They wasted the 4th overall pick.

Raiders gonna Raider.

saphojunkie 03-15-2021 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15586085)
You are a ****ing genius!

Three down.

Linsley to chargers.

Chief Roundup 03-15-2021 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15586092)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Raiders address their biggest need with one of the best pure pass rushers available. If they can sign an interior rusher, they’ll likely draft a RT early. <a href="https://t.co/GDGzewh0x1">https://t.co/GDGzewh0x1</a></p>&mdash; Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) <a href="https://twitter.com/FB_FilmAnalysis/status/1371578886283173890?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ravens Pass Rush is gone.

Hoover 03-15-2021 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 15585828)
Would love to get Linsley now.

Linsley is a Charger

staylor26 03-15-2021 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 15586262)
Ravens Pass Rush is gone.

Yea it was already bad, now it’s non-existent.

Hoover 03-15-2021 05:02 PM

So the Titans and Ravens get worse. Pats and Chiefs improve

suzzer99 03-15-2021 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15584860)
I'm listening to the RGR podcast.

I don't think Derrick is being very creative in thought... when he says "I don't see how the Chiefs can afford Trent Williams" it just is silly.

He should understand what the Chiefs are able to create it cap room. Yeah, it would take roughly half of what the Chiefs CAN free up with the Kelce, Jones restructures and Mathieu extension (in AAV), but they certainly can afford Williams if they want to and he wants to be in KC to chase a ring.

These guys were sure the Chiefs wouldn't keep Jones. I like listening to them but I don't put a lot of stock in their free agency predictions.


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