Training wheels?

You make it seem like the guy doesn't play.

If Remmers injury is serious, then we really need to consider bringing in additional tackle depth. Maybe someone like Rick Wagner? I think Okung is still out there too?

Niang and Long will be options. Schwartz could be an emergency add later when healthy.

We're kidding ourselves if we don't think the Chiefs also consider Wylie an "option".

My point is that they clearly babied him most of last year coming off his injury. At this point he’s over a year and a half removed from the injury, he needs to be let loose with zero limitations. By this point in his career he should just about be rounding into form as the type of player he’ll become, one way or another.

I’m not counting on Long ever playing for the Chiefs. His injury history is pretty bad.

Maybe Schwartz is an option at some point. Hard to bank on that.

Obviously Niang is starting right now. Remmers’ injury worries me. I really don’t want to see Wylie playing any meaningful snaps at tackle.

I just think it might be smart to snag someone else for depth. Or maybe Remmers injury just isn’t serious.

And that’s what really scares me. One injury and he’s starting right now, since Remmers and Long are already hurt.

They had him play through injury his rookie season and he blew an ACL, for Thronhill it's a trust issue with his body and coaching staff

"Didn't I tell you to put a block on the phone witcha black ass?!?"

"He's talking bout 'yeah yeah yeah you livin witcha mama'. I don't wanna hear that shit!"

LMAO Man, that clip brought me back.

Have never seen, nor heard of this movie, but enjoyed the clip. Having zero context I agreed with the guy, you don't get to talk shit about life choices from a prison phone.

I'm with you about Long. He's not going to be ready by the start of the season, so maybe it's time to let go. I'm not sure Schwartz is an option, either. And I never want to see Wylie at T again. I'm not even sure I want to see him ever suit up again.

So where does that leave us? We have Prince Whatever and Miller, but I thought we had another guy. Durant maybe?

If the Remmers injury is serious at all, I think we sign Rick Wagner for depth. He’s started like 100 games in his career. Started 9 games last year for the Packers too and I think he was healthy for all 16.

Thornhill running with the 3's today.

Is he a surprise cut?

Just watched the replays of several of the plays from the 1’s.

It’s fun to watch each play and focus on each OL. It used to be depressing to do that.

You can definitely see the OL getting real push. It’s very encouraging.

Granted, they aren’t playing against stars. But it’s still obvious the talent is there.

Wouldn't be cut until next year.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jody Fortson’s with the 1’s. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/brD6HPo4Gw">pic.twitter.com/brD6HPo4Gw</a></p>&mdash; Harold R. Kuntz (@HaroldRKuntz3) <a href="https://twitter.com/HaroldRKuntz3/status/1427291412702253056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In next set of 11s, Thornhill is occasionally mixing in with the 1s for the first time today.</p>&mdash; Sam McDowell (@SamMcDowell11) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamMcDowell11/status/1427292538646454272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Was Thornhill that bad on Saturday? I was surprised at how much he played, and I don't recall him sticking out in a bad way.. but now he's with the 3s?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thornhill is working back in with the ones in the long drive drill but he&#39;s on and off. <a href="https://t.co/F4uYye9jEg">https://t.co/F4uYye9jEg</a></p>&mdash; Joshua Brisco (@jbbrisco) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbbrisco/status/1427292695052001284?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Quick seem catch for Fortson<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsCamp?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsCamp</a></p>&mdash; Ryan - Locked On | Athletic Matrix™ | RGR Football (@RyanTracyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/RyanTracyNFL/status/1427290643974459398?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Saunders, Danna, Baker getting a few reps with 1s<br>Pushing for bigger roles<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsCamp?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsCamp</a></p>&mdash; Ryan - Locked On | Athletic Matrix™ | RGR Football (@RyanTracyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/RyanTracyNFL/status/1427294106607394817?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I kinda figured they were just working on getting him to trust his leg and get back in game shape. I know it can take awhile after a major injury.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mahomes to Kelce <a href="https://t.co/qhlwKLIZ08">pic.twitter.com/qhlwKLIZ08</a></p>&mdash; Eddie High (@EddieHigh) <a href="https://twitter.com/EddieHigh/status/1427286247899336708?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tyreek in the backfield 👀 <a href="https://t.co/WvsBgow3GT">pic.twitter.com/WvsBgow3GT</a></p>&mdash; Eddie High (@EddieHigh) <a href="https://twitter.com/EddieHigh/status/1427285836098330628?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They are most likely just getting looks at players that are on the bubble of being cut.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/oknBfzlhBo">pic.twitter.com/oknBfzlhBo</a></p>&mdash; Eddie High (@EddieHigh) <a href="https://twitter.com/EddieHigh/status/1427295372163141633?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In today&#39;s long drive drill, the first-team defense has clearly been Mathieu/Sorensen as the first two safeties and Hitchens/Gay as the two linebackers. Mike Hughes started as CB3 but Deandre Baker has worked in.</p>&mdash; Joshua Brisco (@jbbrisco) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbbrisco/status/1427294876580814856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I initially wasnt worried but if the season rolls around and he still isnt getting in much i would have to wonder if he just doesnt understand the concepts or something. Even hurt he was as talented as Dan.

Man, if Hughes & Baker both work out well, we will have a great rotation of CB's. 4 deep, fresh legs all game long and depth if someone goes down so we don't have to trade the farm or pick up an elderly FA midseason.

LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Look away if you&#39;re still having Super Bowl flashbacks but Mike Remmers is working today as the second string LT. Hasn&#39;t worked at RT yet today. Could mean Chiefs have settled on Niang at RT</p>&mdash; Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) <a href="https://twitter.com/adamteicher/status/1427280805819260930?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

4? More like 5.

Ward, Sneed, Fenton, Baker, Hughes

If Keyes is your 6th and a ST ace, then damn. That’s a solid room.

But Veach still hates corners.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Gordon to Fortson deep down the sideline. ��</p>&mdash; Eddie High (@EddieHigh) <a href="https://twitter.com/EddieHigh/status/1427297083590127617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fortson split out and takes pass to the house 80 yd with the threes<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsCamp?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsCamp</a></p>&mdash; Ryan - Locked On | Athletic Matrix™ | RGR Football (@RyanTracyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/RyanTracyNFL/status/1427297171859193865?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">JODY FORTSZN. Long bomb touchdown. Play of the day. Put this man on the roster.</p>&mdash; Joshua Brisco (@jbbrisco) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbbrisco/status/1427297153748135939?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good to see him back at practice. With Niang starting, he can rest and stay healthy. I was getting a bit nervous about tackle depth.

I was actually going to post something similar. Its probably less about Thornhill dropping and more to do with getting looks at other players. Somebody has to drop to get a look at another guy.

Thornhill isn't going anywhere, nor should he.

Andy has always put different OL all over the place in camp. Teicher has been to camp every year and still doesn’t get this.

Amazing

Baker can beat out Hughes for that spot

Nah

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thornhill is working back in with the ones in the long drive drill but he&#39;s on and off. <a href="https://t.co/F4uYye9jEg">https://t.co/F4uYye9jEg</a></p>&mdash; Joshua Brisco (@jbbrisco) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbbrisco/status/1427292695052001284?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don't think you can take too much away from Thornhill with the 3s and Watts with the 1s. I'd think Watts is the player on the bubble fs anyone is.

Even with Remmers back, I'm still a little nervous about our Ts. What's the consensus about Prince Whatever's performance Sat.?

I don't think you put bubble players in with the 1's. Bubble players aren't starters.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid says Juan Thornhill is &quot;just working back in,&quot; says he wouldn&#39;t take anything from where he&#39;s getting his snaps right now. <a href="https://t.co/2y8AKrqpJN">pic.twitter.com/2y8AKrqpJN</a></p>&mdash; Joshua Brisco (@jbbrisco) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbbrisco/status/1427302097834360836?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

HOpefully this is it.

:arrow:GO CHIEFS!:arrow:

Oh no

That's good, you idiot.

I mean, that's what he said, so it IS it.

Yeah…with all the quality OL starters and depth the team acquired this offseason, the back up LT remains the pain point…

Andy would never steer us wrong with coachspeak right?


I mean, I don't want this joke to imply that I'm worried about Thornhill, rather that Andy says things like this all the time without actually saying anything.

For instance, Mahomes is going to play the first quarter. Eric Berry is day to day. No problem with Le'Veon Bell.

If both work out...in conjunction with Sneed being the top-rated rookie CB for a 4th round pick...it might Veech's most impressive accomplishment so far.

2 former 1st round CBs for essentially nothing...

Chiefs will have spent almost nothing for their entire starting CB room...while the Donks use the 9th overall pick, passing on a potential franchise QB, to get just one.

See this is why Petro's narrative about not trading draft picks fails. Veach routinely picks guys up that should be first or second round picks.

I mean Wharton based on his play should at least be a second rounder. Trey Smith a first. Sneed a first.

Who cares if Veach trades a late round pick to move up and select Gray? Petro thinks it needs to be a numbers game throwing the most picks at players because Petro can't actually evaluate talent like Veach can.

He's a wizard.

He sure is.

Trade late 1st round picks for established players that you keep for long periods of time (as core players). Get picks in late rounds/UDFA that play "Up" significantly in your system.

Profit.

It's a great/maximized way to use both resources, IMO.

I don't know why anyone would listen to Petro. Worst sports personality in KC and it isn't even close.

Disagree. I'd say he's second best after SSJ. (But only when he is NOT doing "Stump the Chumps", which is boring and bad.)

He is also fat and weird looking

His whole show is bad. Has been for a long time. SSJ is even worse. Even Clinkscale was a better listen.

There’s only one serious and respectable voice in Kansas City Sports Radio. Only one man is such an artist with his words and provides such thought-provoking commentary that our respect is not only deserved but required. Bob Fescoe.

Thornhill has had some weird tweets this afternoon. Probably nothin but they came right after Reid did his presser?

Feel like expounding?

He said your mother was a hamster and your farther smelt of elderberries.

All I see is a "Continue to Rise" tweet and and tweet with the :hmmm: emoji.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Started the preseason in the win column. <a href="https://t.co/DiqD4E42qI">pic.twitter.com/DiqD4E42qI</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1427358744107634694?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 16, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He said he transgender and identifies as a basketball.

This is a joke? Right???

Gotta be because Fescoe is awful and stupid. He went on boycott the Chiefs rants when we traded Peters and Smith.

It’s either a joke or I’m Fescoe’s CP burner account

I'm afraid to even ask who you think is "good".

I thought this thread was about ****ing training camp!!!!!!!

I'm planning on making it about eating ass tomorrow

Obviously take this with a large pinch of salt, or dose of "this is bullshit", but PFF rookie grades were:

Chiefs Rookies
Player PFF grade Off/Def Snaps
S Zayne Anderson 69.0 15
LB Nick Bolton 63.8 20
CB Dicaprio Bootle 60.5 22
QB Shane Buechele 54.7 24
WR Cornell Powell 54.3 22
Edge Joshua Kaindoh 51.6 49
CB Marlon Character 51.2 15
TE Noah Gray 41.3 33
S Devon Key 37.4 28
LB Riley Cole 29.1 38

Of the non-rookies there's an SI article I can't link to that reckoned Wharton and Saunders had high grades, with Baker also doing well. Have to say I did think Wharton looked pretty good.

lol "pretty good"?


better than pretty good.

No one in this market is good.

They left out o-line?

Don’t hate because she wouldn’t crawl up your ass, even after you begged.

Gotta second that. Wharton was a dominant force. It was a very impressive outing for him. He'll be in the rotation when the season starts.

I can't believe that Wharton was an UDFA. Like, just astounding.

I can't believe Trey Smith was a sixth round draft pick.

I can't believe Sneed was a fourth rounder.

I can't believe the Chiefs got Harrison Butker from another team's scrap heap, along with two first round corners that other teams had given up on erroneously.

How are NFL teams so bad at this

You're right, he was excellent. I actually thought I'd get less grief by being understated. Lesson learned

Think they had some dumb min. snap limit and Smith and Creed only got 11 snaps or something. They probably have some rating somewhere but I'm not paying to see it!

Ah, that explains it. Seems like that would really limit visibility to the rookies who are penciled in as starters. Hopefully they can do some kind of cumulative score once more snaps are gotten.

This is no place for that. I already declared Trey Smith a HOF player after watching practice.

You gotta go for it and call someone an AIDS fire if they disagree with you

I believe 'die in a flaming AIDS tree fire' is the appropriate colloquialism here.