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KC_Connection 05-16-2023 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16947756)
So I said Game 1 will tell me a lot of things. I don’t think the Lakers can get another 40 pt game from AD and hold Jokic to 4-5 pts n the 4th. Still think 5 maybe 6 games for Denver

Were you not watching the last 15 minutes of game time where the Lakers upped their defensive intensity, moved AD off of Jokic, and completely shut Denver down for that entire stretch outside of some ridiculous contested prayers?

The Lakers had no business being in that game based on their first half and they nearly pulled it off. If I'm Denver, I'm worried as hell about what just happened there.

KC_Connection 05-16-2023 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16947764)
If I block that ****ing dickrider on Twitter will his posts stop showing up when you mindlessly regurgitate his insecure drivel?

I'd rather listen to Quesadilla Joe talk about the broncos than see more goddamn handjobs from that one-note queer.

Pretty sure that won't work, no.

Al Bundy 05-16-2023 09:31 PM

lol Barry is making those stats up. BTW Even with AD carrying Lebum it still wasn't enough.

DJ's left nut 05-16-2023 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16947756)
So I said Game 1 will tell me a lot of things. I don’t think the Lakers can get another 40 pt game from AD and hold Jokic to 4-5 pts n the 4th. Still think 5 maybe 6 games for Denver

But you think Jokic will routine go 30-20-10 with Murray dropping 30 and Bruce Brown drilling massive shots?

Because the game simply couldn't have gone better for Denver for 43 minutes and they were still a James make from losing that one.

I'd leave that game a LOT more concerned than I entered it if I'm Denver.

KC_Connection 05-16-2023 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 16947771)
lol Barry is making those stats up. BTW Even with AD carrying Lebum it still wasn't enough.

Except they are didn't make up any of them. Look them up on basketball reference, they are all there for everyone to see.

Steph is literally one of the biggest chokers in the history of basketball.

KC_Connection 05-16-2023 09:37 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is every shot he’s taken in that situation. <br><br>Obviously add the 2 he missed vs the Lakers in G4 <a href="https://t.co/lwR8fnVE8g">pic.twitter.com/lwR8fnVE8g</a></p>&mdash; Omar �� (@omar_badaSS) <a href="https://twitter.com/omar_badaSS/status/1655803745798696960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 9, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KC_Connection 05-16-2023 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16947772)
But you think Jokic will routine go 30-20-10 with Murray dropping 30 and Bruce Brown drilling massive shots?

Because the game simply couldn't have gone better for Denver for 43 minutes and they were still a James make from losing that one.

I'd leave that game a LOT more concerned than I entered it if I'm Denver.

I don't know that anybody was watching that game too closely if they came away thinking that positively about Denver.

AD and LeBron can easily post those lines again (40-10-3 and 26-12-9). It's not like Denver's defense was stopping anybody. What I'd be less sure about is guys like Jamal Murray, KCP, and Porter hitting all those shots again.

dirk digler 05-16-2023 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16947772)
But you think Jokic will routine go 30-20-10 with Murray dropping 30 and Bruce Brown drilling massive shots?

Because the game simply couldn't have gone better for Denver for 43 minutes and they were still a James make from losing that one.

I'd leave that game a LOT more concerned than I entered it if I'm Denver.

I think Jokic will get his and as they say the others always play better at home. IMHO there is no difference between Murray\KCCP scoring and Reeves (23)\Hachimura (17) scoring.

Game 1 is always tight it seems then the blowouts start happening.

KC_Connection 05-16-2023 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16947792)
I think Jokic will get his and as they say the others always play better at home. IMHO there is no difference between Murray\KCCP scoring and Reeves (23)\Hachimura (17) scoring.

Game 1 is always tight it seems then the blowouts start happening.

Murray isn't going for 31 points every game of this series on 60% shooting. He's not that guy.

Iconic 05-16-2023 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16947757)
Except that isn't true at all. He has a 20-year knack for making the right play routinely in such spots (which is why idiots have criticized him for years and years for passing instead of shooting in the clutch).

He had an open 3 there to tie the game. He just missed it. I'll take my chances there given his propensity for clutch shot making in general.

Sure. Knack is probably not the best word choice, it's just something I have noticed happening frequently enough.

The shot itself was poor judgement though. He had Murray with 5 personals on him and he chose to pull up. Like let's just be honest, he's shooting near 25% from 3 right now, made 0 from deep all night, like no one actually believed for a second that shot was going in lmao.

KC_Connection 05-16-2023 09:51 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Jokic/Murray absurd wing 3s with zeros on clock were the difference, despite the Lakers playing their worst half of defensive basketball since the deadline. <br><br>It’s pretty clear what the Lakers defensive adjustment is. I’m not sure what the Nuggets defensive adjustment can be.</p>&mdash; nick wright (@getnickwright) <a href="https://twitter.com/getnickwright/status/1658673869635346432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

dirk digler 05-16-2023 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16947796)
Murray isn't going for 31 points every game of this series on 60% shooting. He's not that guy.

Not every game but look what he did against Phoenix

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KC_Connection 05-16-2023 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 16947805)
Sure. Knack is probably not the best word choice, it's just something I have noticed frequently enough to comment on.

The shot itself was poor judgement though. He had Murray with 5 personals on him and he chose to pull up. Like let's just be honest, he's shooting near 25% from 3 right now, made 0 from deep all night, like no one actually believed for a second that shot was going in.

I would have preferred his usual drive in that spot rather than a shot (the defense probably collapses to prevent him from getting to the rim and he might get Reaves another open three instead), but it was open and he does have a track record for making those. Given they were down three, I can live with it.

dirk digler 05-16-2023 09:55 PM

Reeves shot 90% from 3. You expect that every game?

KC_Connection 05-16-2023 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16947814)
Not every game but look what he did against Phoenix

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Shot 45% and averaged 24 a game. That's probably more what you can expect from him consistently and even that dropoff should be enough to get the Lakers to win if they can maintain that 2nd half effort.

KC_Connection 05-16-2023 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16947818)
Reeves shot 90% from 3. You expect that every game?

No, but I also expect Russell to do more than absolutely nothing in a few of these games too. As useless as he often is, he goes on streaks. He may go on one in game 2.

dirk digler 05-16-2023 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16947819)
Shot 45% and averaged 24 a game. That's probably more what you can expect from him consistently and even that dropoff should be enough to get the Lakers to win if they can maintain that 2nd half effort.

Lakers had 3 days rest and now are going to have to play every other day. I don't make predictions but I am thinking Game 2 is a blowout by Denver, I don't think the Lakers will have the legs after they gave Game 1 their best shot.

KC_Connection 05-16-2023 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16947828)
Lakers had 3 days rest and now are going to have to play every other day. I don't make predictions but I am thinking Game 2 is a blowout by Denver, I don't think the Lakers will have the legs after they gave Game 1 their best shot.

Lakers take game 2 comfortably. That 4th quarter was a disaster for Denver and it was the product of a Lakers adjustment defensively that will not be easily handled.

DrRyan 05-16-2023 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16947844)
Lakers take game 2 comfortably. That 4th quarter was a disaster for Denver and it was the product of a Lakers adjustment defensively that will not be easily handled.

Far more a product of them continuing to switch Murray onto James and getting backed into the paint. They also made the mistake of not making AD defend the pick and roll late in the 4th. Allowing him to play rim protector makes defense much easier than him playing 20 feet from the basket.

KC_Connection 05-16-2023 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 16947848)
Far more a product of them continuing to switch Murray onto James and getting backed into the paint. They also made the mistake of not making AD defend the pick and roll late in the 4th. Allowing him to play rim protector makes defense much easier than him playing 20 get from the basket.

Lakers targeted Murray all over the floor defensively in the 2nd half and they will continue to do so. Like Curry last series, you can’t really hide him anywhere.

AD also didn’t have to defend the pick and roll because he was guarding Gordon or Green for most of that quarter. If Denver wants to send one of those non shooters into ball screen actions rather than Murray and Jokic (which they are likely gonna have to do), the Lakers will take that trade off.

tyecopeland 05-17-2023 05:42 AM

According to the play by play, in the last 5 minutes lebron missed 2 free throws, 2 threes, 1 layup and had 1 turnover. 4 points, 2 assists, 2 rebounds. Tell me more about his clutch.

ARROW2 05-17-2023 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tyecopeland (Post 16947946)
According to the play by play, in the last 5 minutes lebron missed 2 free throws, 2 threes, 1 layup and had 1 turnover. 4 points, 2 assists, 2 rebounds. Tell me more about his clutch.



LOL

dirk digler 05-17-2023 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16947844)
Lakers take game 2 comfortably. That 4th quarter was a disaster for Denver and it was the product of a Lakers adjustment defensively that will not be easily handled.

The Nuggets scored 34 pts in the 3rd quarter and had 100 pts for the game at the end of the 3rd and scored a paltry 26 pts in the 4th.

The difference is the Lakers scored 20 more points in the 2nd half vs 1st half. They also shot 15% higher with the 3 ball then their playoff average and 6% higher for FG's while Denver played their normal game.

I also read that defense isn't something new for the Nuggets, the Wolves ran it with Goebert playing the AD role.

KC_Connection 05-17-2023 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16948027)
I also read that defense isn't something new for the Nuggets, the Wolves ran it with Goebert playing the AD role.

Keeping in mind that Gobert is no AD, how did Denver adjust then?

Pitt Gorilla 05-17-2023 01:03 PM

Was watching some videos yesterday about the defenses employed during the late 80s/early 90s and it was fascinating. Against the Jordan/Pippen Bulls, the perimeter was left almost completely wide open and the guys (Jordan, Pippen, Paxson) would NOT shoot. It was crazy. Literally wide-open 3pt jumpers and nobody seemed interested. The defense was packed as far into the lane as legally possible. I guess I'd forgotten how strange that period really was.

Mecca 05-17-2023 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16948418)
Was watching some videos yesterday about the defenses employed during the late 80s/early 90s and it was fascinating. Against the Jordan/Pippen Bulls, the perimeter was left almost completely wide open and the guys (Jordan, Pippen, Paxson) would NOT shoot. It was crazy. Literally wide-open 3pt jumpers and nobody seemed interested. The defense was packed as far into the lane as legally possible. I guess I'd forgotten how strange that period really was.

Just a different game, teams didn't shoot the 3 all that much.

Pitt Gorilla 05-17-2023 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 16947402)
The biggest **** in the NBA gets to coach him. **** the Spurs.

I don't think I'd considered it going in, but it's the perfect situation. I've never liked the Spurs, but it's difficult not to appreciate how good they've been at developing talent, especially international guys.

Honestly, I was hoping my Thunder or even the Pacers could sneak up and grab the #1, but I really didn't want Houston or Detroit to have ANOTHER bite at the apple, after getting so many high picks recently. So really, it worked out about as well as it could have, with Victor in a perfect organization to achieve his potential. I don't like the Spurs at all, but I may watch them now.

Pitt Gorilla 05-17-2023 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16948425)
Just a different game, teams didn't shoot the 3 all that much.

It certainly wasn't due to lack of opportunity. I'll see if I can find the video, as it was nuts. Imagine Pippen, Paxson, and even Jordan with nobody CLOSE to them beyond 3. They had to actively not want to shoot it.

KC_Connection 05-17-2023 01:35 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">These were the expectations for an 18 years old Lebron James <br><br>&quot;First ballot Hall of Famer or bust&quot; <a href="https://t.co/0WyjONjUdI">pic.twitter.com/0WyjONjUdI</a> <a href="https://t.co/rmUGJgouZZ">https://t.co/rmUGJgouZZ</a></p>&mdash; Mink Flow (@currypistonn) <a href="https://twitter.com/currypistonn/status/1658572853095157796?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 16, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What a question. I'd say LeBron responded well over the next 20 years.

BigCatDaddy 05-17-2023 01:50 PM

This guy has bust written all over him. A perimeter-built Shawn Bradley.

dirk digler 05-17-2023 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16948232)
Keeping in mind that Gobert is no AD, how did Denver adjust then?

Against the Lakers? From my cursory view they moved Gordan out to the 3 pt corner but he seemed to drive in a few times or actually he stayed down low which pulled AD in. Jokic had a couple of turnovers trying to make the pass inside.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2023/5...3-nba-playoffs

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With a little less than six minutes remaining in Game 1 of the Western Conference finals, Los Angeles Lakers coach Darvin Ham pulled his team into a huddle and reconsidered the most important decision in this series: who, exactly, would guard Nikola Jokic. For the majority of the night, that responsibility had fallen to Anthony Davis—possibly the best defensive player in the world, aptly demonstrated by a first-half possession in which he walled up the two-time MVP in the post and ended a Jokic hook shot before it had even left his hand. It was an absolutely sensational play. It was also one of just five shots that Jokic would miss all game long, and a footnote to what would ultimately be a 34-point, 21-rebound, 14-assist masterpiece.

That sort of dominance demands adjustment. So Ham, as an alternative, gave the job of stopping an unstoppable force to Rui Hachimura. “I wanted to take A off as being the initial line of defense, and hopefully Rui could turn him and make him go east-west a little bit more,” Ham told reporters after the game. On the 10 trips down the floor when Hachimura checked Jokic in the half court, the Nuggets scored six total points. Denver’s freewheeling offense broke down—not because Hachimura had any top-secret strategy to counter Jokic, but because him bodying up the superstar center meant that Davis didn’t have to. The kicker: AD never really stopped guarding Jokic, either, even while technically minding Aaron Gordon. The postseason’s leading shot blocker just tracked every play at an intimidating remove, forcing Jokic to account for his presence.

The strategy worked, and yet it wasn’t enough. Denver held on for a 132-126 win, though at one point LeBron James—who was in full-on bully ball mode, with Jamal Murray in his sights—led a run that shaved the Nuggets’ double-digit lead all the way down to three. There’s fair reason for Denver to be concerned about the way things bogged down. “They were just free safety-ing with Anthony Davis and letting him man the paint and making it look really crowded,” head coach Michael Malone said. “Our execution can be better.” And it will be. Some playoff adjustments shift the tectonic plates of a series, altering the facts on the ground to the point of changing everything about how the games are played. Other adjustments really just amount to a temporary annoyance—distracting and maybe even disruptive, but only until the opposing team bothers to swat them away. The Lakers’ big strategic play in Game 1 edged closer to the latter than the former, which is how losing a game they once trailed by 20-plus points can still wind up feeling like a missed opportunity.

Throwing Hachimura at Jokic worked precisely because it was counterintuitive. Ham had said long before Game 1 began that AD would guard Jokic, and stuck with that approach even after the Nuggets scored 72 points in the first half. But all along, the Lakers had prepped out the option for this sort of alternate matchup, and in a desperate moment Ham tipped his hand. “It was a part of our game plan, and we talked about it before the game,” Hachimura said. “The coaches told me that I’m gonna guard Jokic, too.” And he still will, in Game 2 and beyond. But every time he does, the Lakers risk overexposing him. The change in coverage during Game 1 forced a buzz saw offense to stop, think, and overthink. Jokic passed out of a few scoring opportunities and tried to force the action in others. The rhythms of creating offense completely changed with Davis clogging up the paint.

“It may be something we go to in Game 2,” Davis said. “Obviously, we’ve gotta go back and look at the film.” Unfortunately for the Lakers, Jokic and his teammates will be digging into the tape, too—and they won’t find any coverage they can’t crack. It’s all a matter of knowing what’s coming. When the Nuggets watch this sort of stunted possession back in a film session, they’ll map out ways to better space the floor for the next time Jokic calls for a clear-out:

Gordon parking himself in the dunker spot isn’t exactly helping—just look at how Davis can drift all the way over to Jokic without giving up much of anything. Murray is understandably trying to position himself as an outlet against a potential double-team, but sets up so close to Jokic that he practically creates one instead. If the other Nuggets aren’t going to move while Jokic picks on Hachimura, they at least need to give him room to operate. And when they do get moving, they have to know where and how their openings will materialize. When Murray—who hit incredible shots throughout Game 1 en route to 31 points—sees a possession like this one in the light of day, his missed connection with Jokic will jump off the screen.

Even elite players can be tempted to rush when they’re figuring things out on the fly against a scrambling, high-level defense. In retrospect, Murray could have slow-played that opportunity by stringing out the defense off the dribble instead of taking the first decent look he could find. (Though with the way Murray was shooting, one can understand why he might.) Hachimura isn’t just a target for Jokic to batter in the post; he’s clumsy defending the pick-and-roll, too. But wayward possessions like this one below are even more glaring:

It’s one thing to miss a read in the heat of a moment, with the gaps blurred by scrambling bodies and flailing limbs. But all night long, Denver had been able to create open 3-pointers on demand just by putting Jokic at the top of the floor and running a shooter into a handoff. Dennis Schröder locks up Murray to keep him from getting that kind of opening, but rather than pivot into that same action with Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (who was 3-for-8 from distance) or Michael Porter Jr. (who was 3-for-6), Jokic whirled through traffic and threw up a shot that never had a chance.

For defenses with size to spare, it’s fairly common practice to station the most intimidating shot blocker away from the action, where they can cast the longest possible shadow. ”We saw it before,” Jokic said. “We saw it against Minnesota. We saw it even in the season.” The fundamental difference—and what made the fourth quarter so jarring for the Nuggets—is the master class timing and vertical explosion Davis brings to the back line. He doesn’t even have to leave the restricted area to toss back Jokic’s runner. He doesn’t even really have to load up to leap for it. Davis simply waits out the drive and the spin, knocking the ball back as if Jokic had hurled his shot against a wall.

“[Jokic] shoots 70 percent on those little short-range chip shots and floaters and hooks and little one-leg fadeaways,” Ham said. “He scores them at an amazing rate. The idea was just to get A behind him a little bit, and have A as that big, long arm just ready to contest over the top of Rui.”

There will be a clamor for the Lakers to start Hachimura in Game 2, especially after their smaller lineup got absolutely smoked in the series opener. It probably wouldn’t hurt, and it certainly can’t get much worse than losing the rebound battle 22-6 in the first quarter. But leaning on Hachimura to defend Jokic on anything resembling a full-time basis just isn’t a viable option. He spaces out too often. He loses focus on his positioning. Throw him into the fire and he’ll commit silly fouls and fail to line up correctly in transition and forget to box out. The unfortunate truth for the Lakers is that their best chance to slow Jokic down with Hachimura has already come and gone. Earlier in the game, it took Jokic all of a few minutes to figure out what kinds of shots he could get off against Davis. But once he got a feel for the one-on-one matchup, Jokic barely missed again. The same would be true for going at Hachimura—which is really just going at Davis from a different angle.

There’s real matchup shock in attempting to maneuver around a rim protector like AD, just as there is for the Lakers in trying to keep a playmaker like Jokic under wraps. When you’re one of one, no opponent is ever fully ready for you. They might know your moves, or where you like to operate, or what you hope to accomplish. It’s just impossible to know what it really means to try to stick with Jokic through every fake or to somehow get past Davis on a drive until they’re living it. Hachimura handled his first test against Jokic with remarkable poise, contributing to a degree that cannot be ignored. In doing so, however, Hachimura has given the Nuggets everything they need—the film, the familiarity, the flat-out urgency—to make sure it never happens again.

KC_Connection 05-17-2023 03:06 PM

No, against the Wolves. I'm interested to know what they did to adjust to Gobert doing that.

Chief Pagan 05-17-2023 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16948436)
It certainly wasn't due to lack of opportunity. I'll see if I can find the video, as it was nuts. Imagine Pippen, Paxson, and even Jordan with nobody CLOSE to them beyond 3. They had to actively not want to shoot it.

It's hard to compare era's but it would be interesting to see Jordan if he had the openness and spacing to operate that today's three point shooters provide.

KC_Connection 05-17-2023 03:16 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;I went into the Western Conference Finals cautiously very optimistic. ... After watching Game 1, my caution is gone and my optimism is boundless. Boundless.&quot; ��<br><br>— <a href="https://twitter.com/getnickwright?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@getnickwright</a> explains: <a href="https://t.co/kgpQ2T7wBQ">pic.twitter.com/kgpQ2T7wBQ</a></p>&mdash; First Things First (@FTFonFS1) <a href="https://twitter.com/FTFonFS1/status/1658917359741181953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KC_Connection 05-17-2023 04:10 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I was in 7th grade when they was Hyping Bron on ESPN! Mf still at the top 20 years later … stop playing with dude bra… it’s gettin outa pocket</p>&mdash; Damian Lillard (@Dame_Lillard) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dame_Lillard/status/1658946874571718665?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

alpha_omega 05-17-2023 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16948689)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I was in 7th grade when they was Hyping Bron on ESPN! Mf still at the top 20 years later … stop playing with dude bra… it’s gettin outa pocket</p>&mdash; Damian Lillard (@Dame_Lillard) <a href="https://twitter.com/Dame_Lillard/status/1658946874571718665?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ok, I got the first part of that..."LeBron has been great for 20 years/memories, etc."

But what is the second part saying?

BWillie 05-17-2023 04:33 PM

The issue with Wembayama isnt that hes skinny. Actually slender NBA players are mostly less injury prone to big plodding ones. The issue is hes 7'5"

Id still draft him but if hes playing after 30 Ill be surprised

KC_Connection 05-17-2023 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by alpha_omega (Post 16948710)
Ok, I got the first part of that..."LeBron has been great for 20 years/memories, etc."

But what is the second part saying?

Google tells me that "Outta pocket is when a person is acting out of line or in a way that disrespects himself or someone else"

Essentially, Lillard is saying to stop knocking LeBron. By doing so, you're only disrespecting yourself.

KC_Connection 05-17-2023 06:21 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Charles Barkley goes off about the Ja Morant situation and &quot;some idiots, some fools, some jackasses on television that really just piss [him] off.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/HShZisdQqK">pic.twitter.com/HShZisdQqK</a></p>&mdash; Awful Announcing (@awfulannouncing) <a href="https://twitter.com/awfulannouncing/status/1658986975557468161?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sassy Squatch 05-17-2023 06:40 PM

LMAO Love Chuck.

Pablo 05-17-2023 08:04 PM

Boston really shit their pants this quarter

dirk digler 05-17-2023 08:39 PM

Celts need a few more stops

KC Hawks 05-17-2023 08:41 PM

****ing YouTube TV froze

KC_Connection 05-17-2023 08:42 PM

The more I watch the Celtics play, the more I think the Lakers will win it all. They may and likely will win this game/series over the Heat, but I don't think they've played well at any point this postseason considering their overall talent level.

Gary Cooper 05-17-2023 08:46 PM

Tatum and Brown are turnover machines late in games.

dirk digler 05-17-2023 08:46 PM

Cmon Tatum

Butler with the dagger

KC_Connection 05-17-2023 08:47 PM

Tatum chokes this one away. Couldn't even get shots off.

Gary Cooper 05-17-2023 08:48 PM

Boston only plays well when their back is against the wall. They have no killer instinct.

Plus, you have the best coach in the league versus one of the worst. This was always going to a challenge.

dirk digler 05-17-2023 08:49 PM

Jimmy has that dawg in him

KC_Connection 05-17-2023 08:52 PM

Smart with an amazing flop there when going for the rebound on the last shot down 7 points. He truly is a talent.

Iconic 05-17-2023 08:57 PM

another win for #teamHIMmy

ThaVirus 05-17-2023 09:05 PM

Hard not to root for Jimmy Butler.

Also hard not to hate any Boston sports team. **** the Celtics.

BWillie 05-17-2023 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16948961)
Smart with an amazing flop there when going for the rebound on the last shot down 7 points. He truly is a talent.

It is garbage the NBA allows this shit to continue when you can clean it up so easily

PAChiefsGuy 05-18-2023 12:52 AM

Butler is having an epic playoff run. Of course KC_LEBRONIE doesn't wants to talk about it in since it doesn't have to do w LeBron.

Never seen so many lower seeds have so much success in an NBA playoff.

BigCatDaddy 05-18-2023 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 16949075)
Butler is having an epic playoff run. Of course KC_LEBRONIE doesn't wants to talk about it in since it doesn't have to do w LeBron.

Never seen so many lower seeds have so much success in an NBA playoff.

The top teams just aren't that good so the league is pretty balanced.

tyecopeland 05-18-2023 06:32 AM

Which was the worst coached team, the sixers or the Celtics?

KC_Connection 05-18-2023 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 16949075)
Butler is having an epic playoff run. Of course KC_LEBRONIE doesn't wants to talk about it in since it doesn't have to do w LeBron.

Never seen so many lower seeds have so much success in an NBA playoff.

I know you only stop in to this thread to bash LeBron/me every couple of weeks, but here are a collection of posts by me referring to Butler from the past few weeks:

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16914927)
LMAO Butler

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16915193)
I think he's a major overachiever. There was really no rhyme or reason for him to be this good coming out of Marquette or even what he was early in his career with the Bulls. It almost feels like he has these performances through his sheer competitiveness. His bubble playoff performance nearly won a Heat team a championship that had no real business even being at that stage. Just a big game player.

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16915781)
Giannis has been hurt and Butler just played one of the greatest NBA playoff games of all time (which will obviously be difficult to replicate). Milwaukee is still in with a decent shot if Giannis gets back to close to 100%.

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16918172)
Butler LMAO

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16918807)
They could have had both, if I'm recalling correctly. It was effectively a choice of signing Harris to a long term deal versus letting Butler go.

The 2019 76ers were Embiid, Butler, Simmons (when he was still good and gave a shit), Harris, and Redick.

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16946715)
That might be because he's taken the Heat to the East Finals twice and the NBA Finals once over the past four years with a roster of basically only Jimmy Butler, Bam Adebayo and nearly washed 38 year old Kyle Lowry.


dirk digler 05-18-2023 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 16949112)
The top teams just aren't that good so the league is pretty balanced.

I love parity. Now if they could make the regular season meaningful maybe they can move closer to the NFL.

BigCatDaddy 05-18-2023 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16949174)
I love parity. Now if they could make the regular season meaningful maybe they can move closer to the NFL.

They have actually moved the other direction and watered it down. They need to reduce the number of playoff teams, not expand it. It's pretty much screwed.

KC_Connection 05-18-2023 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 16949178)
They have actually moved the other direction and watered it down. They need to reduce the number of playoff teams, not expand it. It's pretty much screwed.

They are starting an in-season tournament soon (I believe next year?), so it appears they've recognized the problem. It may not move the needle though.

dirk digler 05-18-2023 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 16949178)
They have actually moved the other direction and watered it down. They need to reduce the number of playoff teams, not expand it. It's pretty much screwed.

I really really like the play in games though. They need to shorten the regular season to 40-52 games and start at Christmas. Play 2x times a week or max 3 and no back to back games. That would eliminate "load management".

It will never happen though. This new regular season tournament they are going to do next season is going to be stupid

KC_Connection 05-18-2023 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16949188)
I really really like the play in games though. They need to shorten the regular season to 40-52 games and start at Christmas. Play 2x times a week or max 3 and no back to back games. That would eliminate "load management".

It will never happen though. This new regular season tournament they are going to do next season is going to be stupid

Yeah the owners are never going to give up the revenue that comes with all those regular season games (and certainly not that many).

Eureka 05-18-2023 08:15 AM

Miami going to win it all. That team has grit!

BigCatDaddy 05-18-2023 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16949183)
They are starting an in-season tournament soon (I believe next year?), so it appears they've recognized the problem. It may not move the needle though.

Yeah..sounds stupid.

KC_Connection 05-18-2023 03:32 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Crying myself to sleep while watching this on repeat… <a href="https://t.co/rAE92QnkHH">pic.twitter.com/rAE92QnkHH</a></p>&mdash; Josh Reynolds (@JoshReynolds24) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshReynolds24/status/1659035822732226565?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks pretty clear who was the leader on that 2019 76ers team. Still couldn't beat Kawhi though.

Miles 05-18-2023 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 16949279)
Yeah..sounds stupid.

I’m not sure what that is supposed to accomplish when the issue they have is vets on big contracts coasting through the regular season and sitting out whenever. Somehow I don’t think the proposed prize of 500k each is going to motivate or fix any of that.

dirk digler 05-18-2023 07:14 PM

Good 1st quarter

Pablo 05-18-2023 07:26 PM

Leballhandler

KC_Connection 05-18-2023 07:27 PM

You can blame LeBron now if they lose by two. LMAO

KC_Connection 05-18-2023 07:41 PM

I say this basically every other game, but AD might want to show up offensively at some point if the Lakers want to win this game.

BWillie 05-18-2023 07:45 PM

I swear a few years ago Shroder used to be pretty good.

dirk digler 05-18-2023 07:49 PM

So far Lakers are defying my expectations of this game. Rui is playing great

DJ's left nut 05-18-2023 08:07 PM

Running the offense through Reaves and Rui is...unexpected.

DJ's left nut 05-18-2023 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16949843)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Crying myself to sleep while watching this on repeat… <a href="https://t.co/rAE92QnkHH">pic.twitter.com/rAE92QnkHH</a></p>&mdash; Josh Reynolds (@JoshReynolds24) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshReynolds24/status/1659035822732226565?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks pretty clear who was the leader on that 2019 76ers team. Still couldn't beat Kawhi though.

Philly wanted a head on a stake and they weren't gonna blame their two young guys....

But excising Butler over Simmons probably cost them a banner. It's one of those all time gaffes that has stayed largely under the radar. Unless you're a Philly fan.

DJ's left nut 05-18-2023 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16950072)
So far Lakers are defying my expectations of this game. Rui is playing great

Game still feels like a coin flip. LA may not have another gear without Davis waking up and he just rarely does that in-game. Denver, OTOH, feels like they have more to give.

KC_Connection 05-18-2023 08:13 PM

Porter just runs right over Reaves who was set for an hour and it is somehow a defensive foul. Interesting.

BWillie 05-18-2023 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16950104)
Porter just runs right over Reaves who was set for an hour and it is somehow a defensive foul. Interesting.

That was the most obvious charge call I've ever seen.

KC_Connection 05-18-2023 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16950096)
Philly wanted a head on a stake and they weren't gonna blame their two young guys....

But excising Butler over Simmons probably cost them a banner. It's one of those all time gaffes that has stayed largely under the radar. Unless you're a Philly fan.

I'll always maintain that Philly was the best team the Raptors played in their 2019 run (out of the Warriors, Bucks, and 76ers). The fact that they broke that team up right after was bizarre to me, but you've probably hit on part of the reason for doing so.

And in effect, they chose Tobias Harris over Jimmy, not Simmons (who they were keeping no matter what):

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KC_Connection 05-18-2023 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16950113)
That was the most obvious charge call I've ever seen.

Some interesting calls the last few minutes to keep the game close for sure, Lakers could easily be up by double digits.

BWillie 05-18-2023 08:19 PM

The Lakers are just awful at transition defense. Half the battle is just giving a shit.


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