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Pepe Silvia 01-27-2024 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17366104)
This mother****er is getting cut or going to the practice squad all year next year

We can hope.

OneWinningDrive 01-27-2024 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17366005)
Re: the actual game, I am not concerned about Mahomes, or Kelce handling the confusing stuff the Ravens throw at them.

I wouldn't be concerned about Kelce being confused by the Ravens' scheme either. He's one of the smartest guys to ever play tight end.

I would be more worried about the existence of Kyle Hamilton. He was drafted in large part to be a guy who erases tight ends. Hamilton's role has expanded beyond that since then and he is usually asked to do more than just cover a tight end. But if in this game he is pretty much glued to Kelce's hip, Kelce doesn't have a mismatch like he usually does. Hamilton is as big, physical, and smart as any defensive back in the NFL.

duncan_idaho 01-27-2024 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366069)
I'm not discounting the Chiefs' pass protection or Mahomes' elusiveness. They're both great. And the Ravens will blitz. What I was addressing is the suggestion that the Ravens cannot get home without blitzing and so will be forced to blitz more than they want to/should.

The Dolphins game two weeks ago was an example of a team that had no choice but to run the same blitzes repeatedly against the Chiefs. They had so many injuries that even though the blitz is a known death sentence against Mahomes, doing so was still better than not getting any pressure whatsoever with four and just letting Mahomes carve them up.

The Ravens are in a completely different position. They get to the QB with four.

Of course, that won't be enough. If all you ever did was bring four, that wouldn't amount to nearly enough pressure. So they will need to blitz occasionally. But it's not like any kind of blitz is prima facie dead on arrival against Mahomes. The thing you can't do is give him looks he has already seen on tape or in the game. But the Ravens have as deep and diverse of a playbook as there is in the league, and they will give him looks he hasn't seen before. He might still beat them, but it's not going to be spamming of the same blitz packages that he easily recognizes and brushes off.

Styles and matchups matter.

Yes, the Ravens have, over the course of the season, had success getting to the QB with just 4 pass rushers. In the aggregate.

That does not mean they will have success against the Chiefs' offensive line, which is one of the better pass blocking units in the NFL, and arguably the best - complete - pass blocking unit the Ravens have played (you could put the Lions ahead of them, probably, at full strength).

I hope the Ravens send their core 4 against the Chiefs and try to get home with 4 consistently. The Chiefs are better against that than most teams the Ravens have played or in the NFL period.

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Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17366052)
The only issue with this is that you cherry pick how the Ravens beat an injured Texans team while in the same breath lauding the Chiefs for beating two teams whose defense were depleted by injuries.

I have not been lauding the Chiefs for beating the Bills or the Dolphins or pointing that out as a reason the Chiefs will win. All those games tell us is that for the first time this season (a trend that started after the Christmas Day debacle, when they simplified the playcalls and narrowed down the personnel being used) the Chiefs are showing the ability to avoid penalties and drops stalling and killing drives.

You guys keep pointing to the wins against 10-win teams thing, which is an interesting factoid but not reliably predictive of anything (especially when looking at the context of those wins). It would be far more effective to just talk about crushing the 49ers on the road and Lions at home. That's far more influential and predictive of the Ravens having success tomorrow than anything else (and even then, it's not an apples-to-apples comparison).

Chief_N_Bama 01-27-2024 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366116)
I wouldn't be concerned about Kelce being confused by the Ravens' scheme either. He's one of the smartest guys to ever play tight end.

I would be more worried about the existence of Kyle Hamilton. He was drafted in large part to be a guy who erases tight ends. Hamilton's role has expanded beyond that since then and he is usually asked to do more than just cover a tight end. But if in this game he is pretty much glued to Kelce's hip, Kelce doesn't have a mismatch like he usually does. Hamilton is as big, physical, and smart as any defensive back in the NFL.

It’s weird how ravens get so much credit for something they haven’t done yet but the Chiefs get no credit for a 3-1 record against your qb and holding him to a 78 passer rating. His second worst of any opponent he’s played at least twice.

duncan_idaho 01-27-2024 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366116)
I wouldn't be concerned about Kelce being confused by the Ravens' scheme either. He's one of the smartest guys to ever play tight end.

I would be more worried about the existence of Kyle Hamilton. He was drafted in large part to be a guy who erases tight ends. Hamilton's role has expanded beyond that since then and he is usually asked to do more than just cover a tight end. But if in this game he is pretty much glued to Kelce's hip, Kelce doesn't have a mismatch like he usually does. Hamilton is as big, physical, and smart as any defensive back in the NFL.

It will be an interesting matchup, for sure. TEs have put up pretty good numbers against the Ravens defense despite the presence of Queen and Smith and Hamilton. What gives on that?

Hamilton might match up really well against Kelce. We'll find out tomorrow. KC is not above using Kelce as a decoy to create opportunities and big plays for other plays, like TE2 Noah Gray, or Rashee Rice, or for deep shots, or even for a RB on a screen.

OneWinningDrive 01-27-2024 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17366120)
Styles and matchups matter.

Yes, the Ravens have, over the course of the season, had success getting to the QB with just 4 pass rushers. In the aggregate.

That does not mean they will have success against the Chiefs' offensive line, which is one of the better pass blocking units in the NFL, and arguably the best - complete - pass blocking unit the Ravens have played (you could put the Lions ahead of them, probably, at full strength).

I hope the Ravens send their core 4 against the Chiefs and try to get home with 4 consistently. The Chiefs are better against that than most teams the Ravens have played or in the NFL period.

Sure. None of us know what will happen. The point is just that the Ravens have shown better than any other team in the league that they can get home with four. Whether that actually happens against the team best at combating that is unknown. My original post wasn't a prediction as to what will or won't happen; I was just fact checking a poster who spams the same misinformation.

A larger point that here is that I think this Ravens team was constructed with the knowledge that the Ravens would likely need to go through the Chiefs at some point if they were to get to the Super Bowl. They fired Wink Martindale, whose calling card was to blitz and who failed against the Chiefs for that reason in the games people here love to cite. They built a d-line that gets pressure with four. And they drafted Kyle Hamilton to have a shot at containing Kelce.

You say that matchups matters, and I agree; the problem for the Chiefs is that the Ravens have been purpose built in certain ways to match up with the Chiefs.

UChieffyBugger 01-27-2024 06:20 PM

People can talk about Kyle Hamilton and he is a good player but Kittle torched the Ravens and several TE's have put up good numbers. It's another area where that defense have issues if you look at the stats.

OneWinningDrive 01-27-2024 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17366128)
It will be an interesting matchup, for sure. TEs have put up pretty good numbers against the Ravens defense despite the presence of Queen and Smith and Hamilton. What gives on that?

Hamilton might match up really well against Kelce. We'll find out tomorrow. KC is not above using Kelce as a decoy to create opportunities and big plays for other plays, like TE2 Noah Gray, or Rashee Rice, or for deep shots, or even for a RB on a screen.

I think it's like I mentioned that Hamilton isn't actually used on tight ends in practice nearly as much as people talk about him being a tight end eraser in theory. He has become such a versatile piece that they don't want to waste him shadowing Evan Engram or Pat Friermuth. They use Hamilton at literally every position on the defense (including a snap at nose tackle once). But Travis Kelce is in an entirely different universe than those other TEs and might merit Hamilton's sole focus. The decoy idea is very interesting; this matchup could be epic if Reid and Macdonald are both in their bag.

Chris Meck 01-27-2024 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366132)
Sure. None of us know what will happen. The point is just that the Ravens have shown better than any other team in the league that they can get home with four. Whether that actually happens against the team best at combating that is unknown. My original post wasn't a prediction as to what will or won't happen; I was just fact checking a poster who spams the same misinformation.

A larger point that here is that I think this Ravens team was constructed with the knowledge that the Ravens would likely need to go through the Chiefs at some point if they were to get to the Super Bowl. They fired Wink Martindale, whose calling card was to blitz and who failed against the Chiefs for that reason in the games people here love to cite. They built a d-line that gets pressure with four. And they drafted Kyle Hamilton to have a shot at containing Kelce.

You say that matchups matters, and I agree; the problem for the Chiefs is that the Ravens have been purpose built in certain ways to match up with the Chiefs.

I'm sure what you're saying is correct. However, I'm just as sure that everyone in the AFC has been building their team to beat The Chiefs for years now.

Maybe you guys get it done. Maybe not. We'll see.

OneWinningDrive 01-27-2024 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17366135)
People can talk about Kyle Hamilton and he is a good player but Kittle torched the Ravens and several TE's have put up good numbers. It's another area where that defense have issues if you look at the stats.

You can't cover everyone on San Francisco. You have to account for CMC, Aiyuk, Deebo, and Kittle. Something has to give, and for a few plays, it was Kittle.

OneWinningDrive 01-27-2024 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17366138)
I'm sure what you're saying is correct. However, I'm just as sure that everyone in the AFC has been building their team to beat The Chiefs for years now.

Maybe you guys get it done. Maybe not. We'll see.

Absolutely. I'm sure the other AFC West teams go into every draft thinking about which players will help them beat the Chiefs. It's a fact of life for them that they know they'll need to go through KC. I know that has happened in the AFC North with the other teams drafting to contain Lamar, which is why they tend to fare far better against the Ravens than the field.

duncan_idaho 01-27-2024 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366132)
Sure. None of us know what will happen. The point is just that the Ravens have shown better than any other team in the league that they can get home with four. Whether that actually happens against the team best at combating that is unknown. My original post wasn't a prediction as to what will or won't happen; I was just fact checking a poster who spams the same misinformation.

A larger point that here is that I think this Ravens team was constructed with the knowledge that the Ravens would likely need to go through the Chiefs at some point if they were to get to the Super Bowl. They fired Wink Martindale, whose calling card was to blitz and who failed against the Chiefs for that reason in the games people here love to cite. They built a d-line that gets pressure with four. And they drafted Kyle Hamilton to have a shot at containing Kelce.

You say that matchups matters, and I agree; the problem for the Chiefs is that the Ravens have been purpose built in certain ways to match up with the Chiefs.

All well and good. Here's another key point that you probably don't want to consider if you are not a Chiefs fan:

The Ravens front is NOT as good at pressuring the QB with 4 as the Eagles front we saw last season. By a decent measure.

And the Chiefs OL, for all that the T have been maligned for their penalties, is BETTER at pass blocking than it was last year, because Taylor and Smith are better pass blockers as a duo than Orlando Brown and Andrew ****ing Wylie. In 2022, the Chiefs had to give help consistently to Wylie and Brown on pass sets. They often were running chips on both ends using a TE and a RB. This year, they have been more traditional and chipping a single side as needed, because both T are able to hold up on an island against outside pass rushes.

Yes, the penalties have been an issue. Each has been pretty clean in that regard the past few weeks.

I think most AFC teams are building their squads with an eye on how to beat the Chiefs, and agree with you that the changes the Ravens have made give them a better matchup than they previously had.

StalkRavenMad 01-27-2024 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17366090)
I don't know if anyone has seen the numbers but there is a CLEAR WEAKNESS in the Ravens defense that no-one is really talking about. And what is it you may ask?

QB RUNS!!

Cj Stroud= 4 carries, 20 yards, 5 yards per carry

DTR= 4 carries, 24 yards, 6 yards per carry

Pickett= 1 carry, 16 yards

Willis= 3 carries, 17 yards, 5.7 per carry

Dobbs= 6 carries, 26 yards, 4.3 yards per carry and a TD

Watson= 8 carries, 37 yards, 4.6 yards per carry

Browning= 4 carries, 40 yards, 10 yards per carry ( plus Burrow had one carry for 7 yards before getting hurt so it was 5 carries for 47 yards total in that game between the qb's)

Herbert= 4 carries, 47 yards, 11.8 yards per carry

Lawrence= 4 carries, 41 yards, 10.2 yards per carry

Darnald= 1 carry, 9 yards

Tua= 2 carries, 14 yards, 7 yards per carry

Obviously one scramble here and there can tilt the stats but look at those Browning, Herbert and Lawrence stats!!..and those are guys that are pocket passers mainly :eek: . I also remember watching that Browns game and Watson's runs late in the game to convert 3rd downs demoralised that defense.

Other than Dobbs and Watson Pat will be the BEST runner they have faced this year...FACT. Meanwhile the Chiefs have faced FIELDS, HURTS AND ALLEN (TWICE!!). We also saw Browning, Herbert and Lawrence like the Ravens. So in reality we've had plenty of reps against tough running QB's, and also the ones who gave the Ravens problems.

I honestly think Pat's runs could do a lot of damage tomorrow. Especially as Chris Simms already pointed out the Ravens DL haven't been great just rushing four. So they may need to send more guys which could open up rushing lanes.

And lastly all three of their loses were at home. Is it a coincidence that the four times teams put pressure on them in that building they lost three and was taken to OT in the other? We'll see.

Well we last the 1st Pitt game in the road The 2nd Pitt fans wax against backups

Chris Meck 01-27-2024 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366140)
Absolutely. I'm sure the other AFC West teams go into every draft thinking about which players will help them beat the Chiefs. It's a fact of life for them that they know they'll need to go through KC. I know that has happened in the AFC North with the other teams drafting to contain Lamar, which is why they tend to fare far better against the Ravens than the field.

Not just the AFC West, though, you see? It's different. EVERYONE in the AFC knows that if you want to go to the Super Bowl, you're going to have to beat The Chiefs. So every serious contender is gunning for KC and has been for six years now.

FloridaMan88 01-27-2024 06:34 PM

Ravens DC Mike Macdonald is still relatively inexperienced… just his second season as an NFL DC and this will be his second playoff game.

Let’s see him try to gameplan and adjust vs Andy.

OneWinningDrive 01-27-2024 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17366144)
All well and good. Here's another key point that you probably don't want to consider if you are not a Chiefs fan:

The Ravens front is NOT as good at pressuring the QB with 4 than the Eagles front we saw last season. By a decent measure.

And the Chiefs OL, for all that the T have been maligned for their penalties, is BETTER at pass blocking than it was last year, because Taylor and Smith are better pass blockers as a duo than Orlando Brown and Andrew ****ing Wylie. In 2022, the Chiefs had to give help consistently to Wylie and Brown on pass sets. They often were running chips on both ends using a TE and a RB. This year, they have been more traditional and chipping a single side as needed, because both T are been able to hold up on an island against outside pass rushes.

Yes, the penalties have been an issue. Each has been pretty clean in that regard the past few weeks.

I think most AFC teams are building their squads with an eye on how to beat the Chiefs, and agree with you that the changes the Ravens have made give them a better matchup than they previously had.

No disagreement with any of that. To be clear, the Ravens' strength is not their front. To put things in perspective, their front is the weakest part of the defense. They haven't even tried to get a dominant edge beyond taking Oweh in the 1st in that trade between the Chiefs and Ravens for Orlando Brown Jr. Instead, they built the d-line from the inside out. But even there, they didn't spend high-end draft picks on their DTs like the Eagles did; Madubuike and Jones are both 3rd rounders, and Michael Pierce was a cheap signing/UDFA.

The strengths of the Ravens' defense are the secondary and ILBs. And both of those units are significantly better than what the Eagles had. The Ravens' YPA through the air are the lowest in the NFL this year, and through much of the season it was the lowest in several decades. The Smith/Queen ILB duo were both all pros this year.

So while the Ravens' front might not be as good as the Eagles' front, the Ravens' everything else is way better than the Eagles' everything else. And even still, the Ravens' led the league in sacks with four rushers, so the front is perfectly fine.

I think the Eagles were a wildly overrated team last year and going into this, and I don't like the comps people like making here between them and the Ravens. The Eagles won a lot of close games, but they played a Charmin soft schedule. Their collapse this year speaks volumes about who they are.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-27-2024 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17366110)
The responses to that Tweet are great. LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Don’t throw him a party, he’ll drop it.</p>&mdash; EveryMorning Quarterback (@EMQpodcast) <a href="https://twitter.com/EMQpodcast/status/1751264004578722195?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He's not playing and going through something personal...My god you are a scumbag to take glee in their responses. You can hate his play, and be glad hes out, but he is still a Chief that helped us win a Superbowl. Weird...

Chief_N_Bama 01-27-2024 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366132)
Sure. None of us know what will happen. The point is just that the Ravens have shown better than any other team in the league that they can get home with four. Whether that actually happens against the team best at combating that is unknown. My original post wasn't a prediction as to what will or won't happen; I was just fact checking a poster who spams the same misinformation.

A larger point that here is that I think this Ravens team was constructed with the knowledge that the Ravens would likely need to go through the Chiefs at some point if they were to get to the Super Bowl. They fired Wink Martindale, whose calling card was to blitz and who failed against the Chiefs for that reason in the games people here love to cite. They built a d-line that gets pressure with four. And they drafted Kyle Hamilton to have a shot at containing Kelce.

You say that matchups matters, and I agree; the problem for the Chiefs is that the Ravens have been purpose built in certain ways to match up with the Chiefs.

Wink consistently fielded elite defenses. Couldn’t beat the Chiefs. McDonald fields an elite defense and it’s automatically assumed that he will? Because a second year coordinator is gonna throw looks at Mahomes he’s never seen before?

It’s amazing how much credit ravens get for things they haven’t accomplished yet.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-27-2024 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366116)
I wouldn't be concerned about Kelce being confused by the Ravens' scheme either. He's one of the smartest guys to ever play tight end.

I would be more worried about the existence of Kyle Hamilton. He was drafted in large part to be a guy who erases tight ends. Hamilton's role has expanded beyond that since then and he is usually asked to do more than just cover a tight end. But if in this game he is pretty much glued to Kelce's hip, Kelce doesn't have a mismatch like he usually does. Hamilton is as big, physical, and smart as any defensive back in the NFL.

Derwin James says hi...

OneWinningDrive 01-27-2024 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama (Post 17366152)
Wink consistently fielded elite defenses. Couldn’t beat the Chiefs. McDonald fields an elite defense and it’s automatically assumed that he will? Because a second year coordinator is gonna throw looks at Mahomes he’s never seen before?

It’s amazing how much credit ravens get for things they haven’t accomplished yet.

Wink was and is a good defensive coordinator. His scheme worked against most teams in the league. But it was heavily reliant on the blitz. And it was/is painfully clear that doesn't work against Mahomes.

There was actually a game against KC where Wink didn't blitz at all, that MNF game in Baltimore. He totally changed his scheme to accommodate for Mahomes being a blitz breaker. It didn't work at all and Mahomes ate it up in a different way.

I think the Ravens moved on from Wink in large part because while he could field good defenses, he was never going to beat Mahomes, and as is clear, Mahomes is going to be there somewhere along the line in the playoffs. Macdonald is much better suited for that as he is one of the most innovative minds on the defensive side and doesn't rely on the blitz or recycled concepts. We'll see whether that means anything tomorrow.

TwistedChief 01-27-2024 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama (Post 17366152)
Wink consistently fielded elite defenses. Couldn’t beat the Chiefs. McDonald fields an elite defense and it’s automatically assumed that he will? Because a second year coordinator is gonna throw looks at Mahomes he’s never seen before?

It’s amazing how much credit ravens get for things they haven’t accomplished yet.

Come on, dude. Don’t compare MacDonald to Martindale. It’s not even close. Wink is stupid vanilla whereas MacDonald is young Spags with a versatile defense very similar to what we’re doing now.

Mahomes might carve them up tomorrow because he’s Mahomes but it’s not going to be a paint-by-number Wink Martindale blitz scheme Mahomes will overcome.

duncan_idaho 01-27-2024 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366149)
No disagreement with any of that. To be clear, the Ravens' strength is not their front. To put things in perspective, their front is the weakest part of the defense. They haven't even tried to get a dominant edge beyond taking Oweh in the 1st in that trade between the Chiefs and Ravens for Orlando Brown Jr. Instead, they built the d-line from the inside out. But even there, they didn't spend high-end draft picks on their DTs like the Eagles did; Madubuike and Jones are both 3rd rounders, and Michael Pierce was a cheap signing/UDFA.

The strengths of the Ravens' defense are the secondary and ILBs. And both of those units are significantly better than what the Eagles had. The Ravens' YPA through the air are the lowest in the NFL this year, and through much of the season it was the lowest in several decades. The Smith/Queen ILB duo were both all pros this year.

So while the Ravens' front might not be as good as the Eagles' front, the Ravens' everything else is way better than the Eagles' everything else. And even still, the Ravens' led the league in sacks with four rushers, so the front is perfectly fine.

I think the Eagles were a wildly overrated team last year and going into this, and I don't like the comps people like making here between them and the Ravens. The Eagles won a lot of close games, but they played a Charmin soft schedule. Their collapse this year speaks volumes about who they are.


While obviously Smith and Queen and Hamilton are outstanding and would be starters for the 22 Eagles squad, other than Marcus Williams I don’t think anyone else starts for the Eagles.

Both of the defenses the Chiefs overcome in the Super Bowl were viewed as historically great defenses and pass defenses.

That’s why we’ll need to see it to believe it.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-27-2024 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366132)
Sure. None of us know what will happen. The point is just that the Ravens have shown better than any other team in the league that they can get home with four. Whether that actually happens against the team best at combating that is unknown. My original post wasn't a prediction as to what will or won't happen; I was just fact checking a poster who spams the same misinformation.

A larger point that here is that I think this Ravens team was constructed with the knowledge that the Ravens would likely need to go through the Chiefs at some point if they were to get to the Super Bowl. They fired Wink Martindale, whose calling card was to blitz and who failed against the Chiefs for that reason in the games people here love to cite. They built a d-line that gets pressure with four. And they drafted Kyle Hamilton to have a shot at containing Kelce.

You say that matchups matters, and I agree; the problem for the Chiefs is that the Ravens have been purpose built in certain ways to match up with the Chiefs.

Is that a Chiefs problem, or a "if we can't win this year, we are in trouble problem"? If the Chiefs are in contention into the 3rd quarter the pressure is going to be so immense on the Ravens and their fans. Epic.

Chief_N_Bama 01-27-2024 06:46 PM

The eagles were #2 in pressured and #1 in sacks last year while blitzing only 22% of the time. The ravens are 23rd in pressure rate and #1 in sacks while blitzing 19.5%.


Your pass rush is nothing Mahomes and the Chiefs can’t handle.

ReynardMuldrake 01-27-2024 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama (Post 17366152)
Wink consistently fielded elite defenses. Couldn’t beat the Chiefs. McDonald fields an elite defense and it’s automatically assumed that he will? Because a second year coordinator is gonna throw looks at Mahomes he’s never seen before?

It’s amazing how much credit ravens get for things they haven’t accomplished yet.

https://imgur.com/xKqpQPR.jpg

OneWinningDrive 01-27-2024 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17366153)
Derwin James says hi...

Great talent. Night and day difference between the Ravens and Chargers. Literally every player on their defense regressed this year, including James.

DrRyan 01-27-2024 06:49 PM

Watching last week's game now. Texans played a good first half and melted down in the second. Seemingly, making no adjustments when things turned bad. Spags is one of the best in the league at adjusting at the half and on the fly. They had good pressure and contained lamar pretty well in that first half.

I'm really hoping to see Spags bring 5 (occasionally 6) at a high frequency and leaves Sneed and McDuffie on an island. With more focus on containing and collapsing the pocket than sacks. Make him throw it sooner than he'd like and if he can win that way, so be it.

In Pat I trust in a game the outcome is on the QBs arms.

BWillie 01-27-2024 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17366151)
He's not playing and going through something personal...My god you are a scumbag to take glee in their responses. You can hate his play, and be glad hes out, but he is still a Chief that helped us win a Superbowl. Weird...

You are naive

Chief_N_Bama 01-27-2024 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17366158)
Come on, dude. Don’t compare MacDonald to Martindale. It’s not even close. Wink is stupid vanilla whereas MacDonald is young Spags with a versatile defense very similar to what we’re doing now.

Mahomes might carve them up tomorrow because he’s Mahomes but it’s not going to be a paint-by-number Wink Martindale blitz scheme Mahomes will overcome.

So, if Mahomes carves up Macdonald it’s because of Mahomes not because of Macdonald. But when Mahomes carved up Wink it was because of wink even though no one else carved Wink up?


Ok… if that makes sense to you.

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MMXcalibur 01-27-2024 06:53 PM

Ravens are 4.5 point favorites.

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, NFL?!?!?

StalkRavenMad 01-27-2024 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17366147)
Ravens DC Mike Macdonald is still relatively inexperienced… just his second season as an NFL DC and this will be his second playoff game.

Let’s see him try to gameplan and adjust vs Andy.

I'm 2 years Mike Mac has had 1 game where we questioned if he's been ready. Thats was last season against the Dolphins where we blew a 21 pt lead in the 4th qtr. This season Mike has been spot on. Youvgu6svsay those TOs against SF was luck but that was a result of getting Purdy off rythmn. I trust Mike Mc. Will have a good gameplan tomorrow.

|Zach| 01-27-2024 06:59 PM

Watched this interesting video on our defense that I thought was well done. Eye opening stat that we leaders in the NFL in unblocked pressures. Spags doing so many things well not sure he gets the credit he deserves.

Even if the Ravens have success I believe in our ability to adjust just like you saw against the Bills.
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OneWinningDrive 01-27-2024 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17366161)
While obviously Smith and Queen and Hamilton are outstanding and would be starters for the 22 Eagles squad, other than Marcus Williams I don’t think anyone else starts for the Eagles.

Both of the defenses the Chiefs overcome in the Super Bowl were viewed as historically great defenses and pass defenses.

That’s why we’ll need to see it to believe it.

The Ravens' secondary doesn't necessarily jump off the page when you do a back-of-the-napkin breakdown of player by player. It's more so the collection of guys together. Hamilton/Williams/Stone are all top-tier safeties in the NFL (Stone was 2nd in the NFL in interceptions). Humphrey is who he is. Stephens/Maulet aren't well known outside of Baltimore, and I'm not going to sit here and tell you they're elite players, but they've been excellent this year. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts, and that's evidenced by the Ravens' YPA, which is better than the '22 Eagles (or any other team in '22).

The Ravens know how to construct defenses. They've been doing it for 25 years. There's a difference between a defense that puts up good statistics against lower competition but can't perform when push comes to shove and one that has the depth to account for everything that is thrown at them in the playoffs. This Ravens defense strikes me as the latter, but playing the Chiefs is the ultimate test of that.

TLO 01-27-2024 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMXcalibur (Post 17366175)
Ravens are 4.5 point favorites.

How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, NFL?!?!?

Good. Let the money flow in on the Ravens behalf.

UChieffyBugger 01-27-2024 07:01 PM

THE RAVENS DEFENSE IS 26TH IN YARDS PER CARRY ALLOWED.

Vs Colts= 139 rush yards

Vs Titans= 129 rush yards

Vs Arizona= 129 rush yards

Vs Browns= 178 rush yards

Vs Bengals= 136 rush yards

Vs Rams= 128 rush yards

Vs Niners= 121 rush yards

Vs Dolphins= 154 rush yards

Teams have ran on that defense.

UChieffyBugger 01-27-2024 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrRyan (Post 17366169)
Watching last week's game now. Texans played a good first half and melted down in the second. Seemingly, making no adjustments when things turned bad. Spags is one of the best in the league at adjusting at the half and on the fly. They had good pressure and contained lamar pretty well in that first half.

I'm really hoping to see Spags bring 5 (occasionally 6) at a high frequency and leaves Sneed and McDuffie on an island. With more focus on containing and collapsing the pocket than sacks. Make him throw it sooner than he'd like and if he can win that way, so be it.

In Pat I trust in a game the outcome is on the QBs arms.

They moved the ball well then killed their drives with penalties. 11 penalties for 70 yards is brutal.

TLO 01-27-2024 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17366188)
THE RAVENS DEFENSE IS 26TH IN YARDS PER CARRY ALLOWED.

Vs Colts= 139 rush yards

Vs Titans= 129 rush yards

Vs Arizona= 129 rush yards

Vs Browns= 178 rush yards

Vs Bengals= 136 rush yards

Vs Rams= 128 rush yards

Vs Niners= 121 rush yards

Vs Dolphins= 154 rush yards

Teams have ran on that defense.

I'd be fine running the ball, controlling the clock, and finishing drives with TDs. Our defense will probably struggle with the Ravens offense at times, but I think we can pressure Lamar into some mistakes.

Otter 01-27-2024 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17366196)
I'd be fine running the ball, controlling the clock, and finishing drives with TDs. Our defense will probably struggle with the Ravens offense at times, but I think we can pressure Lamar into some mistakes.


Lamar has a bad short passing game but a good long one. Take away the big plays and we win.

StalkRavenMad 01-27-2024 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama (Post 17366171)
So, if Mahomes carves up Macdonald it’s because of Mahomes not because of Macdonald. But when Mahomes carved up Wink it was because of wink even though no one else carved Wink up?


Ok… if that makes sense to you.

We lost plenty games because Wink refused to adjust. In 21 we had our entire secondary onnIR. Those that re0laced the replacement were on the field and Wink continues to blitz and leave thise guys on islands. Mac will adjust his team to fit his personnel where as Wink would force the square peg into the round hole or die trying.

FloridaMan88 01-27-2024 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17366180)
I'm 2 years Mike Mac has had 1 game where we questioned if he's been ready. Thats was last season against the Dolphins where we blew a 21 pt lead in the 4th qtr. This season Mike has been spot on. Youvgu6svsay those TOs against SF was luck but that was a result of getting Purdy off rythmn. I trust Mike Mc. Will have a good gameplan tomorrow.

He’s going up against Andy Reid in an AFC Championship Game.

That’s the deepest of the deep end of the pool.

Raiderhater 01-27-2024 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by digger (Post 17366173)
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I saw a clip earlier of Snoop Dog on McAfee not only picking the Chiefs, but saying the Ravens were the real underdogs in the game.

Who’d a thought that Snoop actually smokes LESS dope than the media and Baltimore fans? :)

OneWinningDrive 01-27-2024 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17366188)
THE RAVENS DEFENSE IS 26TH IN YARDS PER CARRY ALLOWED.

Vs Colts= 139 rush yards

Vs Titans= 129 rush yards

Vs Arizona= 129 rush yards

Vs Browns= 178 rush yards

Vs Bengals= 136 rush yards

Vs Rams= 128 rush yards

Vs Niners= 121 rush yards

Vs Dolphins= 154 rush yards

Teams have ran on that defense.

This is true. The Ravens' have almost always had a top-tier run defense, but not this year. It's not a bad run defense, it's just not one of the best in the league. I would argue it's by design. They are willing to let teams run a bit as long as they don't do anything through the air.

The bigger question here is do the Chiefs have a good enough running game to take advantage of this? Will they stick to it even if they're behind in the game? All of the teams you cited above prioritize their running game. Do the Chiefs? The Texans had 38 rushing yards last week.

TwistedChief 01-27-2024 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama (Post 17366171)
So, if Mahomes carves up Macdonald it’s because of Mahomes not because of Macdonald. But when Mahomes carved up Wink it was because of wink even though no one else carved Wink up?


Ok… if that makes sense to you.

Uhhh, ok. If the Ravens were running a basic Wink defense, they wouldn’t have had nearly the same success this year. They’re a team that tailors their schemes to their opponents rather than relying upon classic scheme or talent to get it done. This isn’t the same Ravens from 2019-2021 or the Eagles from last SB.

Mahomes might very well be good enough to conquer this defense. That’s why he’s Mahomes.

Hope that makes some sense to you.

FloridaMan88 01-27-2024 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17366151)
He's not playing and going through something personal...My god you are a scumbag to take glee in their responses. You can hate his play, and be glad hes out, but he is still a Chief that helped us win a Superbowl. Weird...

Figures that a miserable bundle of sticks such as yourself can’t take a joke.

Take your Reeruned self less seriously and lighten up.

BWillie 01-27-2024 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366202)
This is true. The Ravens' have almost always had a top-tier run defense, but not this year. It's not a bad run defense, it's just not one of the best in the league. I would argue it's by design. They are willing to let teams run a bit as long as they don't do anything through the air.

The bigger question here is do the Chiefs have a good enough running game to take advantage of this? Will they stick to it even if they're behind in the game? All of the teams you cited above prioritize their running game. Do the Chiefs? The Texans had 38 rushing yards last week.

Thats exactly how you should defend really. If you can get the other team to run the ball more...well that is a less effective way to score.

|Zach| 01-27-2024 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17366212)
Having worked at Goldman Sachs for a decade about 30 feet from the people in this space, this is pretty fairly accurate. (GS of course did just fine in the implosion.)

The lesson: Ravens are the housing market. Mahomes is the cataclysm coming. Watch the **** out on Sunyday.

Haha! Yea just switched out the wrong embed.

TwistedChief 01-27-2024 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 17366213)
Haha! Yea just switched out the wrong embed.

I had to delete my post because I realized you ****ed up. ROFL

But I loved the parallel nonetheless!

TwistedChief 01-27-2024 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17366204)
Figures that a miserable bundle of sticks such as yourself can’t take a joke.

Take your Reeruned self less seriously and lighten up.

Hey, Ravens fans: just want to say… this guy is one of the most pathetically miserable Chiefs fans out there. He has taken great joy in fading the team this year and it’s very rich that he’s now battling all of you as if he’s the optimistic savior of CP. Don’t take him or his overuse of emojis seriously and sorry if you’ve wasted time jousting with him.

FloridaMan88 01-27-2024 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17366220)
Hey, Ravens fans: just want to say… this guy is one of the most pathetically miserable Chiefs fans out there. He has taken great joy in fading the team this year and it’s very rich that he’s now battling all of you as if he’s the optimistic savior of CP. Don’t take him or his overuse of emojis seriously and sorry if you’ve wasted time jousting with him.

Hey Ravens fans, this guy will bet you his life savings that Caleb Williams will be the next Patrick Mahomes.

LMAO

BigRedChief 01-27-2024 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17366104)
This mother****er is getting cut or going to the practice squad all year next year

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17366151)
He's not playing and going through something personal...My god you are a scumbag to take glee in their responses. You can hate his play, and be glad hes out, but he is still a Chief that helped us win a Superbowl. Weird...

I’m still happy with the 3rd and 6th we gave up. I’m not so Blaise that winning a SB is just okay. Without his runback, who knows if we win that SB. Well worth 3rd/6th.

Chief_N_Bama 01-27-2024 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StalkRavenMad (Post 17366199)
We lost plenty games because Wink refused to adjust. In 21 we had our entire secondary onnIR. Those that re0laced the replacement were on the field and Wink continues to blitz and leave thise guys on islands. Mac will adjust his team to fit his personnel where as Wink would force the square peg into the round hole or die trying.

Im pretty sure you went 13-3 with wink with Lamar his first full year starting. Macdonald is in his first year. His best stuff is just now on film.

Like I said, it’s amazing how much credit ravens get for things they haven’t accomplished yet.

UChieffyBugger 01-27-2024 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366202)
This is true. The Ravens' have almost always had a top-tier run defense, but not this year. It's not a bad run defense, it's just not one of the best in the league. I would argue it's by design. They are willing to let teams run a bit as long as they don't do anything through the air.

The bigger question here is do the Chiefs have a good enough running game to take advantage of this? Will they stick to it even if they're behind in the game? All of the teams you cited above prioritize their running game. Do the Chiefs? The Texans had 38 rushing yards last week.

We'll see. What's interesting is five of those eight games I referenced above were on the Ravens home field.

Chief_N_Bama 01-27-2024 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17366203)
Uhhh, ok. If the Ravens were running a basic Wink defense, they wouldn’t have had nearly the same success this year. They’re a team that tailors their schemes to their opponents rather than relying upon classic scheme or talent to get it done. This isn’t the same Ravens from 2019-2021 or the Eagles from last SB.

Mahomes might very well be good enough to conquer this defense. That’s why he’s Mahomes.

Hope that makes some sense to you.

So… again… Winks loses to the Chiefs were on Wink but if Macdonald loses to Mahomes it’s because Mahomes is so great?

Just want you on record with this take…

TwistedChief 01-27-2024 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17366222)
Hey Ravens fans, this guy will bet you his life savings that Caleb Williams will be the next Patrick Mahomes.

LMAO

And this pussy misrepresents everything ever posted on here and doesn’t have the balls to literally put up or shut up with anything. It’s so classic.

Where were you supporting this team during the regular season when the chips were down, little girl? Or were most of your interactions on here playing hopscotch with TEX as you bitched about this team and its shortcomings endlessly?

TwistedChief 01-27-2024 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama (Post 17366229)
So… again… Winks loses to the Chiefs were on Wink but if Macdonald loses to Mahomes it’s because Mahomes is so great?

Just want you on record with this take…

You’re confusing.

If we were playing a Wink defense tomorrow, it would be much easier and Mahomes would have an easier task.

We’re not doing that. It’s a taller task.

If we win tomorrow, it’s far, far more impressive given the DC and what he’s been able to accomplish.

BigRedChief 01-27-2024 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17366220)
Hey, Ravens fans: just want to say… this guy is one of the most pathetically miserable Chiefs fans out there. He has taken great joy in fading the team this year and it’s very rich that he’s now battling all of you as if he’s the optimistic savior of CP. Don’t take him or his overuse of emojis seriously and sorry if you’ve wasted time jousting with him.

And don’t mention vaccines to him. :rolleyes:

FloridaMan88 01-27-2024 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17366230)
And this pussy misrepresents everything ever posted on here and doesn’t have the balls to literally put up or shut up with anything. It’s so classic.

Where were you supporting this team during the regular season when the chips were down, little girl? Or were most of your interactions on here playing hopscotch with TEX as you bitched about this team and its shortcomings endlessly?

Sounds like someone is backing away… like a fraudulent bitch… from their embarrassing Caleb Williams hype from earlier this season.

You sound triggered. LMAO

TwistedChief 01-27-2024 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17366234)
Sounds like someone is backing away… like a fraudulent bitch… from their embarrassing Caleb Williams hype from earlier this season.

You sound triggered. LMAO

What in the world? You said he would be a complete bust like Mark Sanchez. You’re so ****ing ridiculous. I offered up a bet that he would be voted to the Pro Bowl in his first three seasons, not as an alternate. You were so afraid of that and won’t take it now either.

You might be the biggest pussy on here. The star of Caleb Williams has dimmed and I’ll still take the bet with you. And we can do a ban bet for a year instead of money if you’d like.

Bearcat 01-27-2024 07:34 PM

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FloridaMan88 01-27-2024 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17366235)
What in the world? You said he would be a complete bust like Mark Sanchez. You’re so ****ing ridiculous. I offered up a bet that he would be voted to the Pro Bowl in his first three seasons, not as an alternate. You were so afraid of that and won’t take it now either.

You might be the biggest pussy on here. The star of Caleb Williams has dimmed and I’ll still take the bet with you. And we can do a ban bet for a year instead of money if you’d like.

You posted on here your excitement about attending the USC/Notre Lame game to watch Caleb Williams light up Notre Lame… only to have your golden boy crash and burn with 3 INT’s in that game. LMAO

Oh and speaking of someone who selectively jumps off and on the sane train… up your meds so this version of yourself can post more consistently…

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17286356)
Gotta be honest. I don’t think anyone is wrong for doubting this team at this point in a GDT. I still think we’re plenty capable of winning the AFC and the SB, but we’re past the point of blindly giving them the benefit of the doubt. The team isn’t quite the same as in prior years from an inevitability standpoint, so some honest and genuine doubt when they seem to be slipping seems reasonable.


TwistedChief 01-27-2024 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17366243)
You posted on here your excitement about attending the USC/Notre Lame game to watch Caleb Williams light up Notre Lame… only to have your golden boy crash and burn with 3 INT’s in that game. LMAO

Oh and speaking of someone who selectively jumps off and on the sane train… up your meds so this version of yourself can post more consistently…

Ah, okay. So, 1/ you’re a pussy and won’t take the bet? and 2/ feeling like people who were frustrated after the Raiders game didn’t need to be called out is akin to what you’ve literally done this entire season until you just became a fronrtunner?

Yup. Find where I said the team was doomed and had no chance at any point. You were on that tip since week 1, weak-minded bitch.

FloridaMan88 01-27-2024 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17366247)
Ah, okay. So, 1/ you’re a pussy and won’t take the bet? and 2/ feeling like people who were frustrated after the Raiders game didn’t need to be called out is akin to what you’ve literally done this entire season until you just became a fronrtunner?

Yup. Find where I said the team was doomed and had no chance at any point. You were on that tip since week 1, weak-minded bitch.

You backtracked from proclaiming Caleb Williams to be a generational QB… i.e. in the Mahomes-sphere to now just someone who will make the Pro Bowl. LMAO

Sucks that you had to waste your $$$ to buy a ticket to the USC/Notre Lame game to get that reality check about Caleb Williams.

You are a Caleb Williams-fan boy who was Reeruned enough to compare him to Mahomes… no need to insult you further.

TwistedChief 01-27-2024 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17366253)
You backtracked from proclaiming Caleb Williams to be a generational QB… i.e. in the Mahomes-sphere to now just someone who will make the Pro Bowl. LMAO

Sucks that you had to waste your $$$ to buy a ticket to the USC/Notre Lame game to get that reality check about Caleb Williams.

You are a Caleb Williams-fan boy who was Reeruned enough to compare him to Mahomes… no need to insult you further.

Lots of made-up stuff here from the classic CP pussy. Sorry, Ravens fans, that you’ve spent time responding to him. Just laugh at the sad clown and move on.

Coochie liquor 01-27-2024 07:56 PM

Does nut know he’s doing the GDT?

Pasta Little Brioni 01-27-2024 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366140)
Absolutely. I'm sure the other AFC West teams go into every draft thinking about which players will help them beat the Chiefs. It's a fact of life for them that they know they'll need to go through KC. I know that has happened in the AFC North with the other teams drafting to contain Lamar, which is why they tend to fare far better against the Ravens than the field.

Bullshit ROFL No one is building around building a team around defending a guy with a 2 to 3 year shelf life ROFL

PHOG 01-27-2024 08:00 PM

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Bearcat 01-27-2024 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17366263)
Does nut know he’s doing the GDT?

Not 100% sure... he posted in another thread earlier soon after I mentioned it..... just replied to let him know.

Bowser 01-27-2024 08:09 PM

I love ChiefsPlanet when it's in the middle of tying one off!

Rausch 01-27-2024 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17366263)
Does nut know he’s doing the GDT?

I figured it was the default for all playoff games.

Some one text the guy or something...

Rausch 01-27-2024 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 17366274)
I love ChiefsPlanet when it's in the middle of tying one off!

I've missed this place...

FloridaMan88 01-27-2024 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17366259)
Lots of made-up stuff here from the classic CP pussy. Sorry, Ravens fans, that you’ve spent time responding to him. Just laugh at the sad clown and move on.

Take the L and move on… you can’t run from what you posted on the record here.

RunKC 01-27-2024 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366132)
Sure. None of us know what will happen. The point is just that the Ravens have shown better than any other team in the league that they can get home with four. Whether that actually happens against the team best at combating that is unknown. My original post wasn't a prediction as to what will or won't happen; I was just fact checking a poster who spams the same misinformation.

A larger point that here is that I think this Ravens team was constructed with the knowledge that the Ravens would likely need to go through the Chiefs at some point if they were to get to the Super Bowl. They fired Wink Martindale, whose calling card was to blitz and who failed against the Chiefs for that reason in the games people here love to cite. They built a d-line that gets pressure with four. And they drafted Kyle Hamilton to have a shot at containing Kelce.

You say that matchups matters, and I agree; the problem for the Chiefs is that the Ravens have been purpose built in certain ways to match up with the Chiefs.

Your DL does not get consistent pressure with 4. They were 22nd in pressures this year and last week they got some pressure but never sacked Stroud and hit him once a quarter.

That's not gonna be good enough to stop Mahomes all game

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-27-2024 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17366204)
Figures that a miserable bundle of sticks such as yourself can’t take a joke.

Take your Reeruned self less seriously and lighten up.

**** off... seriously, you just can't leave that shit alone even when they aren't playing.

FloridaMan88 01-27-2024 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17366292)
**** off... seriously, you just can't leave that shit alone even when they aren't playing.

He’s not playing because he had his first child tonight… lighten up.

IowaHawkeyeChief 01-27-2024 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17366280)
Take the L and move on… you can’t run from what you posted on the record here.

You're such a miserable reeruned cuck...

FloridaMan88 01-27-2024 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17366298)
You're such a miserable reeruned cuck...

See for yourself…

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IowaHawkeyeChief 01-27-2024 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17366295)
He’s not playing because he had his first child tonight… lighten up.

So that's all the more reason not take glee in others being assholes to the guy. The negative energy you carry must be exhausting to anyone who thinks of you as a friend or is related to you.

OneWinningDrive 01-27-2024 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17366283)
Your DL does not get consistent pressure with 4. They were 22nd in pressures this year and last week they got some pressure but never sacked Stroud and hit him once a quarter.

That's not gonna be good enough to stop Mahomes all game

No yeah you're right. Leading the league by a huge margin in sacks when rushing four definitely means they can't get to the QB without blitzing. Brilliant take.

tredadda 01-27-2024 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneWinningDrive (Post 17366137)
I think it's like I mentioned that Hamilton isn't actually used on tight ends in practice nearly as much as people talk about him being a tight end eraser in theory. He has become such a versatile piece that they don't want to waste him shadowing Evan Engram or Pat Friermuth. They use Hamilton at literally every position on the defense (including a snap at nose tackle once). But Travis Kelce is in an entirely different universe than those other TEs and might merit Hamilton's sole focus. The decoy idea is very interesting; this matchup could be epic if Reid and Macdonald are both in their bag.

Only player that I have ever seen have success against Kelce was Derwin James. Even then Travis got his. His knowledge of the game, ability to improvise (which Andy is fine with), and ability to find holes in a defense have made him one of the best to ever do it. That’s why he’s such a matchup nightmare. The most common phrase you hear about him from other fans is “Why is he always open”? It’s not like he’s forgotten about by the defense. I am genuinely curious as to how well Hamilton does against him if he indeed does play him man to man.


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