ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Chiefs Rashee Rice suspected in connection with major accident in Dallas (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=352900)

Pablo 04-09-2024 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17476162)
Scumbag says what?

You need to scurry back to DC where people applaud your dumbass takes instead of getting roasted in the lounge for being a dipshit.

Pablo 04-09-2024 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17476164)
How would he react if our WR hurt Caitlin Clark's pussy?

He would cry and cry and cry.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-09-2024 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17476164)
How would he react if our WR hurt Caitlin Clark's pussy?

Depends on the State it happened, but my guess by the post on here it would be a 1st degree felony with a 20 year mandatory sentence event if it was a minor injury anywhere near her midsection...

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-09-2024 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17476166)
You need to scurry back to DC where people applaud your dumbass takes instead of getting roasted in the lounge for being a dipshit.

So, you bleed over DC to here and run this thread further into the ground...again classy.

Pablo 04-09-2024 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17476173)
So, you bleed over DC to here and run this thread further into the ground...again classy.

Look at Iowa getting all sensitive again.

Weak weak weak.

loochy 04-09-2024 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17476081)
**** the victims, the three-peat is more important. No punishment for Rashee!


This is really the bottom line here.

Otter 04-09-2024 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17476111)
learn to read, you must have missed the OR part... You know OR racing from point a to point b, which they may have been doing, but absent text messages or a confession from one of those involved, prosecutors are going to have very tough time charging or proving it was street racing.

This isn't that hard. Rashee's most likely going to get charged with traffic offenses and a misdemeanor leaving the scene of an accident. This will lead to no jail time, substantial fines and his insurance limits should handle the damages and liability. He was very lucky that no one was seriously hurt. other than some stitches, bumps and bruises. The NFL will give him between 2-4 games. This is just my opinion on the facts currently available.

As I stated before in this thread, Rice is very very lucky he didn't kill himself let alone kill or seriously injure innocent drivers. This was an extremely poor decision by a young man being stupid. Hopefully this is a wake up call and the bad decisions will be over.


You

Quote:

AGAIN, Street racing in Texas is defined as starting from a side by side spot, or racing from point A to Point B.

Me quoting TEXAS STATE LAW:

Quote:

Texas Transportation Code Section 545.420 - Racing on Highway
Texas law defines street racing broadly. It includes the use of one or more vehicles in an attempt to:
  • Outgain or outdistance another vehicle: Trying to be faster than another vehicle.
  • Prevent another vehicle from passing: Intentionally blocking or hindering another vehicle from overtaking.
  • Arrive at a given destination ahead of another vehicle: Racing to get somewhere first.
  • Test the physical stamina or endurance of a driver over a long-distance route: Endurance-based racing challenges.
Key Points and Examples:
  • It's not just drag racing: The definition goes beyond traditional drag racing and encompasses various competitive driving behaviors on public roads.
  • Examples include:
    • Two cars racing to see who's faster over a specific distance.
    • Aggressive driving to prevent someone from changing lanes or passing.
    • Several cars weaving through traffic to reach a destination the quickest.
  • Location: The offense applies to any public highway or road, not just designated racetracks.
Consequences
Street racing in Texas is a Class B Misdemeanor. Penalties can include:
  • Fines
  • Jail time
  • Driver's license suspension
Important Note: If someone is injured or killed due to street racing, the charges can be elevated to felonies with significantly more severe consequences.
Let me know if you would like more details about the specific penalties or have other related questions!

I think I'll go and try and teach my dog Algebra. It will be more productive and I'll at least enjoy the company.

Garcia Bronco 04-09-2024 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 17476150)
Iowa - gets really, really butthurt when you talk about Caitlin Clark's pussy

Iowa as well - victim blames when our WR hurts somebody

What would happen if someone was a victim of Clark's pussy?

crayzkirk 04-09-2024 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 17475696)

Number 4...

Wisconsin_Chief 04-09-2024 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 17476195)
This is really the bottom line here.

Get Bud Kilmer out there to the precinct and have him talk to those ol’ boys. We got us a 3-peat to chase officers, you wouldn’t want to stand in the way of that now would you???

It’s just boys being boys after all. :)

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-09-2024 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 17476214)
You




Me quoting TEXAS STATE LAW:



Here is the actual statute that was shared earlier:

Quote:

Sec. 545.420. RACING ON HIGHWAY; IMPOUNDMENT OF A VEHICLE. (a) A person may not participate in any manner in:

(1) a race;

(2) a vehicle speed competition or contest;

(3) a drag race or acceleration contest;

(4) a test of physical endurance of the operator of a vehicle; or

(5) in connection with a drag race, an exhibition of vehicle speed or acceleration or to make a vehicle speed record.

(b) In this section:

(1) "Drag race" means the operation of:

(A) two or more vehicles from a point side by side at accelerating speeds in a competitive attempt to outdistance each other; or

(B) one or more vehicles over a common selected course, from the same place to the same place, for the purpose of comparing the relative speeds or power of acceleration of the vehicle or vehicles in a specified distance or time.

(2) "Race" means the use of one or more vehicles in an attempt to:

(A) outgain or outdistance another vehicle or prevent another vehicle from passing;

(B) arrive at a given destination ahead of another vehicle or vehicles; or

(C) test the physical stamina or endurance of an operator over a long-distance driving route.

(c) [Blank]

(d) Except as provided by Subsections (e)-(h), an offense under Subsection (a) is a Class B misdemeanor.

(e) An offense under Subsection (a) is a Class A misdemeanor if it is shown on the trial of the offense that:

(1) the person has previously been convicted one time of an offense under that subsection; or

(2) the person, at the time of the offense:

(A) was operating the vehicle while intoxicated, as defined by Section 49.01, Penal Code; or

(B) was in possession of an open container, as defined by Section 49.031, Penal Code.

(f) An offense under Subsection (a) is a state jail felony if it is shown on the trial of the offense that the person has previously been convicted two times of an offense under that subsection.

(g) An offense under Subsection (a) is a felony of the third degree if it is shown on the trial of the offense that as a result of the offense, an individual suffered bodily injury.

(h) An offense under Subsection (a) is a felony of the second degree if it is shown on the trial of the offense that as a result of the offense, an individual suffered serious bodily injury or death.

(i) A peace officer shall require a vehicle used in the commission of an offense under Subsection (a) or an offense punishable under Section 42.03(d) or (e), Penal Code, to be taken to the nearest licensed vehicle storage facility unless the vehicle is seized as evidence, in which case the vehicle may be taken to a storage facility as designated by the peace officer involved. Notwithstanding Article 18.23, Code of Criminal Procedure, the owner of a vehicle that is removed or stored under this subsection is liable for all removal and storage fees incurred and is not entitled to take possession of the vehicle until those fees are paid.
Unless they have more evidence in text or testimony that they were racing to their destination. The only one that may fit is the bolded part, and that would be "tough to prove" as I have said over and over. While I think it is likely they were racing/showing off/driving stupidly, it is going to be hard for a prosecutor to charge/convict them with Street Racing unless there is evidence we aren't aware of existing. I take it you think they will be charged/convicted? It's just my opinion they won't with the current facts.

In58men 04-09-2024 10:33 AM

Morgan Wallen is facing 3 felonies for throwing a chair and almost hitting a couple cops.

He’ll get community service and will have to enter rehab.

Otter 04-09-2024 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17476256)
I take it you think they will be charged/convicted?


I NEVER inferred anything of the such you butt ****ing moron. You're making shit up AGAIN. Consider writing fairy tales. It seems it might be one of your few reliable attributes.

Rausch 04-09-2024 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17476081)
**** the victims, the three-peat is more important. No punishment for Rashee!

Well, it's not like they're Missourians...

loochy 04-09-2024 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 17476344)
Well, it's not like they're Missourians...

Yeah! Anyone not from Jackson County is a piece of shit! /CP stadium vote thread

raybec 4 04-09-2024 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17476268)
Morgan Wallen is facing 3 felonies for throwing a chair and almost hitting a couple cops.

He’ll get community service and will have to enter rehab.

What the **** does that have to do with this thread?

loochy 04-09-2024 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 17476356)
What the **** does that have to do with this thread?


the people spouting FELONY and mandatory prison time, etc

saphojunkie 04-09-2024 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17476081)
**** the victims, the three-peat is more important. No punishment for Rashee!

https://j.gifs.com/73LEAy.gif

saphojunkie 04-09-2024 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crayzkirk (Post 17475650)
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. A fool and his money soon part ways. One of the disadvantages of being successful is others will see it as a means to enrich themselves.

Lawyers... too bad we need them; like a lot of people in society, they make money from other people's loss.

so do roofers, plumbers, auto mechanics, hospice care workers, firefighters, police detectives, refrigerator repairemen, and the Kansas City Chiefs.

Megatron96 04-09-2024 01:07 PM

Anyone have an idea when Goodell is going to come to a decision on this? Is he waiting for the legal ruling first?


Also, have they released the highway cam video(s) yet? Gotta be some tape from those cams somewhere.

Wisconsin_Chief 04-09-2024 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17476430)
Anyone have an idea when Goodell is going to come to a decision on this? Is he waiting for the legal ruling first?


Also, have they released the highway cam video(s) yet? Gotta be some tape from those cams somewhere.

It’s very odd now little is trickling out, which makes me believe the Dallas PD is on board with making sure their SMU legend can play all 17 games in our 3-peat season! LFG!

Megatron96 04-09-2024 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17476431)
It’s very odd now little is trickling out, which makes me believe the Dallas PD is on board with making sure their SMU legend can play all 17 games in our 3-peat season! LFG!




I wondered if that would happen in this case. Guess we'll see eventually. Obviously, if they decide to soft pedal this and let Rice off with a slap on the wrist, that's great for the Chiefs in 2024.


Though a part of me wishes that one of these players finally gets more than just a slap on wrist; maybe serve as a warning that people won't put up with this kind of nonsense anymore. If it weren't a Chiefs player, I'd probably be a lot more adamant about it.

Marcellus 04-09-2024 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17476430)
Anyone have an idea when Goodell is going to come to a decision on this? Is he waiting for the legal ruling first?


Also, have they released the highway cam video(s) yet? Gotta be some tape from those cams somewhere.

He hasn't even been charged with anything yet let alone had it litigated.

Bearcat 04-09-2024 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17476431)
It’s very odd now little is trickling out, which makes me believe the Dallas PD is on board with making sure their SMU legend can play all 17 games in our 3-peat season! LFG!

Let's get to 5000 posts just to be sure though.

Wisconsin_Chief 04-09-2024 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17476447)
Though a part of me wishes that one of these players finally gets more than just a slap on wrist; maybe serve as a warning that people won't put up with this kind of nonsense anymore. If it weren't a Chiefs player, I'd probably be a lot more adamant about it.

Oh yeah, I'm completely fooling around here for the most part. The kid really needs to take this as the biggest lesson life has ever taught him so far. God only knows how close he was to killing someone else, or himself.

Megatron96 04-09-2024 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17476448)
He hasn't even been charged with anything yet let alone had it litigated.


i wasn't sure if he'd been charged yet. Not following this story very closely right now. Just kind of checking every once in a while.


As far as Goodell is concerned, I don't think he has any obligation to wait for any of that.

WilliamTheIrish 04-09-2024 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 17476221)
What would happen if someone was a victim of Clark's pussy?

Standard practice by PITLA is 9 days in bed. Apparently.

PHOG 04-09-2024 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17476430)
Anyone have an idea when Goodell is going to come to a decision on this? Is he waiting for the legal ruling first?


Also, have they released the highway cam video(s) yet? Gotta be some tape from those cams somewhere.

When's the toughest part of our schedule? Once that comes out, we'll have a clearer idea.

Megatron96 04-09-2024 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17476455)
Oh yeah, I'm completely fooling around here for the most part. The kid really needs to take this as the biggest lesson life has ever taught him so far. God only knows how close he was to killing someone else, or himself.



Yeah, something like that.


I mean, I wasn't a square as a kid; God knows I did my share of dumb things in HS up through my mid-twenties, and some of them in cars. Street racing included. Though racing during rush hour seems like a whole other level of reckless/stupid. Anyway, I'm not standing here on my soapbox preaching/whining about how terrible these kids are. They're kids; they're going to do dumb/immature things.

But it just seems like these incidents during the offseason are increasing in frequency and the risks seem to be increasing as well, in spite of the fact that they have more options to be safer about their thrill-seeking.


Maybe the NFL needs to get them to channel their energies into safer activities. Fly-fishing, for example. Pretty hard to kill/injure people fly-fishing at the local pond.

Dunerdr 04-09-2024 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17476454)
Let's get to 5000 posts just to be sure though.

IN!

loochy 04-09-2024 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17476454)
Let's get to 5000 posts just to be sure though.


Let's all post more copy and paste Texas law!

Wisconsin_Chief 04-09-2024 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 17476496)
IN!

LFG!

Megatron96 04-09-2024 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 17476465)
When's the toughest part of our schedule? Once that comes out, we'll have a clearer idea.



Lol, you're right. Forgot about that. nice catch.:D

Lzen 04-09-2024 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17476447)
I wondered if that would happen in this case. Guess we'll see eventually. Obviously, if they decide to soft pedal this and let Rice off with a slap on the wrist, that's great for the Chiefs in 2024.


Though a part of me wishes that one of these players finally gets more than just a slap on wrist; maybe serve as a warning that people won't put up with this kind of nonsense anymore. If it weren't a Chiefs player, I'd probably be a lot more adamant about it.

Wealthy people have been getting away with stuff that peasants don't for millennia.

Lzen 04-09-2024 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 17476505)
Let's all post more copy and paste Texas law!

Ask and you shall receive.

Quote:

No “Odor Emissions” in the Elevator
This is one of those laws you might wish was illegal in your town. In Port Arthur, TX, it’s illegal to “emit obnoxious odors” in the elevator. While that could mean any number of emissions, there’s one in particular that would be heinous in an enclosed space.

loochy 04-09-2024 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17476552)
Ask and you shall receive.


Damn man, I'm a freaking FELON.


lock me up

Lzen 04-09-2024 03:12 PM

One more, just for fun.

Quote:

No Eating Your Neighbor’s Garbage
This one doesn’t have context, but there are some towns in Texas where it is illegal to dig into your neighbor’s trash for food (or anything else). You can be charged with property theft, and even trespassing. Raccoons, take note.

FloridaMan88 04-09-2024 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17476556)
One more, just for fun.

Looks like that Reeruned life-fail Pablo should avoid Texas.

DavidB 04-09-2024 05:01 PM

Dallas LAW!!!

I think he was only driving a little too fast is all.

DavidB 04-09-2024 05:04 PM

He was driving along and suddenly he lost control of the car but did his best to avoid innocent people.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-09-2024 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17476455)
Oh yeah, I'm completely fooling around here for the most part. The kid really needs to take this as the biggest lesson life has ever taught him so far. God only knows how close he was to killing someone else, or himself.

Correct, he's going to pay a pretty heavy monetary penalty, but he was really lucky no one was killed. Hopefully he sees this as a gift and a chance to make better decisions moving forward. If, not, see ya.

dlphg9 04-09-2024 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17476135)
It's not victim blaming to say " I don't blame them for their position, that I would probably do the same." Those that think despite not being hospitalized, that are on bed rest 9 days later is 100% legit and not positioning for litigation is just being naive. If you ever have dealt with an accident lawyer this is standard practice.

You don't think a concussion could lead to bed rest? The lawyer says she is suffering from post concussive symptoms. Concussion symptoms can last weeks to months. Not everything is a money grab and I am giving her (the victim) the benefit of doubt.

DavidB 04-09-2024 10:16 PM

Man...what a srew up... should have stayed home and played video racing.... sorry.... he wasn't racing - just driving recklessly. Driving recklessly is not a felony.

DavidB 04-09-2024 10:17 PM

Mahomes really doesn't need great receivers any way - throw his @$$ in jail.

Katipan 04-09-2024 10:20 PM

You should go drive really fast.
Like, right now.

BigRedChief 04-10-2024 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 17476555)
Damn man, I'm a freaking FELON.


lock me up

Find Chiefaholic and you can buddy up, breakout and go on the run together.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-10-2024 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17476811)
You don't think a concussion could lead to bed rest? The lawyer says she is suffering from post concussive symptoms. Concussion symptoms can last weeks to months. Not everything is a money grab and I am giving her (the victim) the benefit of doubt.

No, I don't. Specifically after not being hospitalized after a detailed exam after the accident. Again, she and her lawyer are doing exactly what I would do, just don't be naive and think this is not a ruse.

Bl00dyBizkitz 04-10-2024 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17476467)
Yeah, something like that.


I mean, I wasn't a square as a kid; God knows I did my share of dumb things in HS up through my mid-twenties, and some of them in cars. Street racing included. Though racing during rush hour seems like a whole other level of reckless/stupid. Anyway, I'm not standing here on my soapbox preaching/whining about how terrible these kids are. They're kids; they're going to do dumb/immature things.

But it just seems like these incidents during the offseason are increasing in frequency and the risks seem to be increasing as well, in spite of the fact that they have more options to be safer about their thrill-seeking.


Maybe the NFL needs to get them to channel their energies into safer activities. Fly-fishing, for example. Pretty hard to kill/injure people fly-fishing at the local pond.

I think the NFL does plenty already. I bet there's plenty of speeches at the Combine, Rookie Minicamp, OTA's, etc about growing up and taking this opportunity seriously. Only bad things happen after 1, keep your friends and your work separate, be aware of your image and how you use it, all that stuff that basically equates to be a professional. The NFL has plenty of coaches and past players that give sound advice to rookies.

But even with all the sound advice in the world, these young 20 somethings with a ton of money are surrounded by temptation and peer pressure on all fronts. It requires a lot of inner discipline and maturity at that age to ignore it all, and some of these guys just don't have that. If there were character flaws before the money and fame, that all will just amplify it, and your flaws will eventually reveal themselves.

SurroundedByMorons 04-10-2024 08:35 AM

5k posts you say??

Otter 04-10-2024 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17476930)
Find Chiefaholic and you can buddy up, breakout and go on the run together.


I've developed an AI chat addiction.


Q: when someone is running from the law "is it on the lam" or "on the lamb" and what are the origins of this saying?

The correct phrase is "on the lam."


The origins of this phrase are a bit murky, but there are a few theories:

  • Old Norse Origin: The most likely origin comes from the Old Norse word "lam" meaning "to beat or cripple." This suggests someone is running away to avoid punishment or consequences for their actions.
  • Prison Break: Some suggest a connection to the 16th-century slang "to take a lam" which meant escaping jail.
  • Misheard Expression: Another theory is that the phrase could be a mishearing of "on the land," referring to someone staying out of sight and moving across the land.
It's important to note that the phrase has no connection to actual lambs, the animal!

loochy 04-10-2024 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 17476957)
I've developed an AI chat addiction.


Q: when someone is running from the law "is it on the lam" or "on the lamb" and what are the origins of this saying?

The correct phrase is "on the lam."


The origins of this phrase are a bit murky, but there are a few theories:

  • Old Norse Origin: The most likely origin comes from the Old Norse word "lam" meaning "to beat or cripple." This suggests someone is running away to avoid punishment or consequences for their actions.
  • Prison Break: Some suggest a connection to the 16th-century slang "to take a lam" which meant escaping jail.
  • Misheard Expression: Another theory is that the phrase could be a mishearing of "on the land," referring to someone staying out of sight and moving across the land.
It's important to note that the phrase has no connection to actual lambs, the animal!


I don't think I've ever heard that phrase. But hey, I learned something today! Maybe Ceedee Lamb will commit a crime so Lamb can be on the Lam

Mephistopheles Janx 04-10-2024 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17476933)
No, I don't. Specifically after not being hospitalized after a detailed exam after the accident. Again, she and her lawyer are doing exactly what I would do, just don't be naive and think this is not a ruse.

You would fake injuries to get more money out of someone than what is actually reasonable and commit insurance fraud because the other guy is loaded?

Stand up dude right there. LMAOLMAOLMAO

Otter 04-10-2024 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 17476987)
I don't think I've ever heard that phrase. But hey, I learned something today! Maybe Ceedee Lamb will commit a crime so Lamb can be on the Lam


Loochy, every time you break out that shtick it besoms more original and funny in your own head.

Go away, loser. Or at least find a new unfunny and unoriginal shtick to bore us with.

However, I hear temper tantrums can be healthy as opposed to holding it all in so roll with it maybe.



https://thewarrencenter.org/wp-conte...er-Tantrum.jpg

mabbott 04-10-2024 09:43 AM

OK, this thread made me wonder if I am being dismissive about this not being a big deal. Well, now that I have looked into statistics in Dallas.... it isn't a big deal. This occurs ALL the time there. In fact, Dallas averages 97 to 147 car accidents a day and 39% of those accidents involve injury or death. Specifically, accidents like this happen 64 times a day in Texas (speeding 25+ or more over the limit)... I have included the statistics below if you like copy pasta

According to TX DOT, the top crash-contributing factors across Texas in 2022 were:

Failure to Control Speed (too fast for conditions), causing 136,165 crashes, including 577 fatal crashes and 42,738 causing injuries.
Unsafe Speed (driving faster than 25 MPH over the posted speed limit), causing 23,633 crashes, including 457 fatal crashes and 8,297 injuries.
Speeding (driving over the posted speed limit), causing 2,599 crashes, including 299 fatal crashes and 1,627 injuries.
Driver Inattention (distracted driving), causing 84,887 crashes, including 332 fatal crashes and 24,943 causing injuries.
Unsafe Lane Changes, causing 45,833 crashes, including 91 fatal crashes and 8,558 causing injuries.
Failure to Drive in Single Lane, causing 45,632 crashes, including 830 fatal crashes and 13,194 causing injuries.
Failure to Yield Right of Way to Oncoming Traffic When Turning Left, causing 35,674 crashes, including 23 fatal crashes and 14,670 causing injuries.
Failure to Avoid a Collision, causing 21,735 crashes, including 273 fatal crashes and 7,451 causing injuries.
Following Too Closely (rear-end collision), causing 20,681 crashes, including 11 fatal crashes and 6,191 causing injuries.
Driving Under The Influence of Alcohol, causing 15,402 crashes, including 714 fatal crashes and 6,618 causing injuries.

DaFace 04-10-2024 09:46 AM

Been out for a few days - did he get the death penalty yet?

Mephistopheles Janx 04-10-2024 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mabbott (Post 17477024)
OK, this thread made me wonder if I am being dismissive about this not being a big deal. Well, now that I have looked into statistics in Dallas.... it isn't a big deal. This occurs ALL the time there. In fact, Dallas averages 97 to 147 car accidents a day and 39% of those accidents involve injury or death. Specifically, accidents like this happen 64 times a day in Texas (speeding 25+ or more over the limit)... I have included the statistics below if you like copy pasta

According to TX DOT, the top crash-contributing factors across Texas in 2022 were:

Failure to Control Speed (too fast for conditions), causing 136,165 crashes, including 577 fatal crashes and 42,738 causing injuries.
Unsafe Speed (driving faster than 25 MPH over the posted speed limit), causing 23,633 crashes, including 457 fatal crashes and 8,297 injuries.
Speeding (driving over the posted speed limit), causing 2,599 crashes, including 299 fatal crashes and 1,627 injuries.
Driver Inattention (distracted driving), causing 84,887 crashes, including 332 fatal crashes and 24,943 causing injuries.
Unsafe Lane Changes, causing 45,833 crashes, including 91 fatal crashes and 8,558 causing injuries.
Failure to Drive in Single Lane, causing 45,632 crashes, including 830 fatal crashes and 13,194 causing injuries.
Failure to Yield Right of Way to Oncoming Traffic When Turning Left, causing 35,674 crashes, including 23 fatal crashes and 14,670 causing injuries.
Failure to Avoid a Collision, causing 21,735 crashes, including 273 fatal crashes and 7,451 causing injuries.
Following Too Closely (rear-end collision), causing 20,681 crashes, including 11 fatal crashes and 6,191 causing injuries.
Driving Under The Influence of Alcohol, causing 15,402 crashes, including 714 fatal crashes and 6,618 causing injuries.

Rape happens all the time... still a big deal.

Murder happens all the time... still a big deal.

Breaks ins happen all the time... still a big deal.

Robbery happens all the time... still a big deal.

Assault happens all the time... still a big deal.

DaFace 04-10-2024 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17477028)
Rape happens all the time... still a big deal.

Murder happens all the time... still a big deal.

Breaks ins happen all the time... still a big deal.

Robbery happens all the time... still a big deal.

Assault happens all the time... still a big deal.

So death penalty then?

Mephistopheles Janx 04-10-2024 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17477031)
So death penalty then?

100%

Dude is lucky he didn't have kids or it would be a "sins of the father" type situation and they would have to be killed too.

Dartgod 04-10-2024 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17477026)
Been out for a few days - did he get the death penalty yet?

No, but this thread should.

LoneWolf 04-10-2024 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17477028)
Rape happens all the time... still a big deal.

Murder happens all the time... still a big deal.

Breaks ins happen all the time... still a big deal.

Robbery happens all the time... still a big deal.

Assault happens all the time... still a big deal.

Seriously, **** all the way off with this bullshit. Rape, murder, break ins, robbery, and assault all have a victim that is severely afffected by these actions. Nobody was seriously injured/affected due to Rice and his friends being stupid.

Mephistopheles Janx 04-10-2024 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 17477035)
Seriously, **** all the way off with this bullshit. Rape, murder, break ins, robbery, and assault all have a victim that is severely afffected by these actions. Nobody was seriously injured/affected due to Rice and his friends being stupid.

Lone... I need you to go back and re-read the post I replied to. In case it eludes you I'm still gonna break down my response.

The statement that was made was that it "wasn't a big deal" because "it happens all the time". The point I am making is that "it happens all the time" doesn't reduce the seriousness of anything. I'm not directly comparing those things to what happened with Rice. I'm pointing out that how often it happens has no bearing on how serious things are.

Hope that helped.

staylor26 04-10-2024 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17477031)
So death penalty then?

They're just trying to figure out whether it's lethal injection or the chair.

mabbott 04-10-2024 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17477041)
Lone... I need you to go back and re-read the post I replied to. In case it eludes you I'm still gonna break down my response.

The statement that was made was that it "wasn't a big deal" because "it happens all the time". The point I am making is that "it happens all the time" doesn't reduce the seriousness of anything. I'm not directly comparing those things to what happened with Rice. I'm pointing out that how often it happens has no bearing on how serious things are.

Hope that helped.

Car accidents are not a big deal. Your false equivalency isn't either... even though you made it but then said you didn't make it.

Mephistopheles Janx 04-10-2024 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mabbott (Post 17477047)
Car accidents are not a big deal.


Yes ma... this was your normal run of the mill missed a stop sign and bumped fenders.

Quote:

Your false equivalency isn't either... even though you made it but then said you didn't make it.
Yes... I am totally making murder and what Rice did equivalent. That makes far more sense that what I stated. :shake:

loochy 04-10-2024 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 17477016)
Loochy, every time you break out that shtick it besoms more original and funny in your own head.

Go away, loser. Or at least find a new unfunny and unoriginal shtick to bore us with.

However, I hear temper tantrums can be healthy as opposed to holding it all in so roll with it maybe.



https://thewarrencenter.org/wp-conte...er-Tantrum.jpg

WTF?

Schtick? What schtick?

I had never heard that phrase before. Now I have, plus I know its origin.

Maybe it's hard to believe, but just because I think you are a moron sometimes doesn't mean I think you are a moron all the time. I can still engage you in a normal conversation, and that's what I was doing there.

DJ's left nut 04-10-2024 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17477042)
They're just trying to figure out whether it's lethal injection or the chair.

I believe they're just putting the finishing touches on the Braveheart style guillotine and rack setup. Gonna really need to do this right - afterall, this is big shit in Dallas and they're gonna make an example of him.

Gotta do it right.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-10-2024 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17476994)
You would fake injuries to get more money out of someone than what is actually reasonable and commit insurance fraud because the other guy is loaded?

Stand up dude right there. LMAOLMAOLMAO

LMAO... I would let me lawyer handle the communication as this lady is... I'm sure she she was sore and it was easier to be in bed, and thus the communication which is not insurance fraud. If so, every accident lawyer in the country would be disbarred for recommending similar actions for their clients. Again, if she was the one at fault with the same injuries she would probably be out and about, but she's not so she can afford to rest in bed. It's not a real hard concept to grasp.

ThaVirus 04-10-2024 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 17477035)
Seriously, **** all the way off with this bullshit. Rape, murder, break ins, robbery, and assault all have a victim that is severely afffected by these actions. Nobody was seriously injured/affected due to Rice and his friends being stupid.

I remember you and I had a debate about drunk driving years back. You mentioned that you had a friend over for a BBQ (or something of the sort) who got a little too drunk and was going to drive home. You threatened that you would call the cops on him if he left, IIRC.

Just curious how you feel about Rice and his friends putting however-many lives at risk with their stupidity when you seem to have a zero tolerance for drunk driving? This is not me being a dick, by the way. I’m just asking.

mabbott 04-10-2024 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17477051)
Yes ma... this was your normal run of the mill missed a stop sign and bumped fenders.



Yes... I am totally making murder and what Rice did equivalent. That makes far more sense that what I stated. :shake:

This was a run of the mill accident. There were minor injuries. Had this not been an NFL player, this most likely would not have made the local news as this is occurs many times every day in Dallas. We don't have to agree, I am fine with that; however, just because you feel it is a big deal doesn't change the way I feel about it.

Mephistopheles Janx 04-10-2024 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mabbott (Post 17477066)
This was a run of the mill accident.

I disagree

Quote:

There were minor injuries.
Lucky

Quote:

Had this not been an NFL player, this most likely would not have made the local news as this is occurs many times every day in Dallas.

We don't have to agree, I am fine with that; however, just because you feel it is a big deal doesn't change the way I feel about it.
I'm not trying to change your mind. I am only refuting the statement that the frequency with which it happens makes it "not a big deal".

Garcia Bronco 04-10-2024 10:28 AM

A concussion is a major injury and specifically major trauma and the impact can be permanent, A small cut is a minor injury.

mabbott 04-10-2024 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco (Post 17477072)
A concussion is a major injury and specifically major trauma and the impact can be permanent, A small cut is a minor injury.

There are different levels of concussions; however, typically concussions are categorized as a "mild brain injury."

mabbott 04-10-2024 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17477071)
I disagree



Lucky



I'm not trying to change your mind. I am only refuting the statement that the frequency with which it happens makes it "not a big deal".

The severity of what occurs makes it a big deal or not. This was not a severe occurrence; therefore; it is not a big deal.

BigRedChief 04-10-2024 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17477055)
I believe they're just putting the finishing touches on the Braveheart style guillotine and rack setup. Gonna really need to do this right - afterall, this is big shit in Dallas and they're gonna make an example of him.

Gotta do it right.

Pay per view opportunity?

mabbott 04-10-2024 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17477078)
Pay per view opportunity?

I hope is is THIS IS SPARTA style!

Mephistopheles Janx 04-10-2024 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mabbott (Post 17477077)
The severity of what occurs makes it a big deal or not. This was not a severe occurrence; therefore; it is not a big deal.

:banghead:

I am only refuting the statement that the frequency with which it happens makes it "not a big deal".

-----

If your kid starts a fire outside that only singed the hair off your other child and only by luck did it not catch your house on fire... was that not a big deal?

No one was actually hurt and the house didn't burn down so... why would anyone care that one of your kids could have burned down your house and immolated your other kid? No bid deal right because the severity of what happened was actually nothing. The house wasn't damaged and hair re-grows... right?

Katipan 04-10-2024 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17477084)
:banghead:

I am only refuting the statement that the frequency with which it happens makes it "not a big deal".

-----

If your kid starts a fire outside that only singed the hair off your other child and only by luck did it not catch your house on fire... was that not a big deal?

No one was actually hurt and the house didn't burn down so... why would anyone care that one of your kids could have burned down your house and immolated your other kid? No bid deal right because the severity of what happened was actually nothing. The house wasn't damaged and hair re-grows... right?

I think it could potentially not be that big of a deal.

mabbott 04-10-2024 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17477084)
:banghead:

I am only refuting the statement that the frequency with which it happens makes it "not a big deal".

-----

If your kid starts a fire outside that only singed the hair off your other child and only by luck did it not catch your house on fire... was that not a big deal?

No one was actually hurt and the house didn't burn down so... why would anyone care that one of your kids could have burned down your house and immolated your other kid? No bid deal right because the severity of what happened was actually nothing. The house wasn't damaged and hair re-grows... right?

It is not a big deal because the house didn't burn down. Would I use this as a teachable moment, absolutely. Would I charge my child with arson and ruin their life for it because it could have burned the house down.. or in fact the whole town... why stop there... all life on the planet could have ended due to this heinous act... Wow, thanks for opening my eyes... this was a big deal. I hope I can sleep tonight and not worry about my kids burning earth from existence.

Mephistopheles Janx 04-10-2024 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mabbott (Post 17477097)
It is not a big deal because the house didn't burn down. Would I use this as a teachable moment, absolutely. Would I charge my child with arson and ruin their life for it because it could have burned the house down.. or in fact the whole town... why stop there... all life on the planet could have ended due to this heinous act... Wow, thanks for opening my eyes... this was a big deal. I hope I can sleep tonight and not worry about my kids burning earth from existence.

LMAO @ "burning the earth from existence" and "ruin their life"

Nothing like logical fallacies (Reducio Ad Absurdem) to brighten one's day.

Haveagoodone!

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-10-2024 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 17477084)
:banghead:


If your kid starts a fire outside that only singed the hair off your other child and only by luck did it not catch your house on fire... was that not a big deal?

No one was actually hurt and the house didn't burn down so... why would anyone care that one of your kids could have burned down your house and immolated your other kid? No bid deal right because the severity of what happened was actually nothing. The house wasn't damaged and hair re-grows... right?

Yes, you probably say to your kid, "this could have been a much bigger deal, you were lucky it didn't cause more issues. You then ground them for a week and make them do some chores. 20 years down the road, you can actually joke about it and how stupid their act was and how lucky they were. It would have been a big deal and devastating if they had burned down the house or severely burned their sibling. Everyone is saying Rice ****ed up and made a horrible decision, but he was lucky or this would have been a "much bigger deal"... but those things didn't happen, or it would still be on the news in a big way and Rice would be cut and facing serious jailtime.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:14 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.