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IowaHawkeyeChief 01-07-2023 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 16720678)
Christ Jones is the best interior d-lineman in the league. He's been top 2 or 3 over the last 5 years or so. We won't get the same value of 2 first round picks for him.

Correct, but you are also picking up $20 million plus in cap space on the rookie deal to spend elsewhere. It's a much bigger picture than just the draft picks.

Stryker 01-07-2023 11:06 PM

Are you serious? Jones is the man! Keep him, pay him!

dannybcaitlyn 01-07-2023 11:07 PM

There are only two DT’s in the league who can get sack numbers like DE’s and we have one of them. No way you let that go..

Eleazar 01-07-2023 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 16720678)
Christ Jones is the best interior d-lineman in the league. He's been top 2 or 3 over the last 5 years or so. We won't get the same value of 2 first round picks for him.

Not only that but you trade away players who are replaceable. Jones isn't replaceable.

Chiefspants 01-07-2023 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 16720601)
Do something in the playoffs and then we'll talk

He already did. There is a 99% probably we do not win a Super Bowl without him. Ready for a SCORCHING hot take? His 3 batted balls were just as critical as WASP.

mkp785 01-07-2023 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 16720691)
There are only two DT’s in the league who can get sack numbers like DE’s and we have one of them. No way you let that go..

This, and our pass rush already is lacking somewhat. Not only do I wanna keep him, I'd try and talk JJWatt into taking a small deal in order to ring chase.

OBJ is the big question though. No idea what to do there.

RunKC 01-07-2023 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 16720686)
Correct, but you are also picking up $20 million plus in cap space on the rookie deal to spend elsewhere. It's a much bigger picture than just the draft picks.

Honestly I don’t think this next FA class is that good. That makes a difference

CoMoChief 01-07-2023 11:28 PM

I'd be fine with either scenario, because he's a great player, but the keyboard GM in me says if the Chiefs are in a middle of a semi rebuild then let's get some 1sts to help that transition.

TomBarndtsTwin 01-07-2023 11:29 PM

The simple answer is your choosing between Jones and OBJ. IMO, you can’t pay both of those guys $25-30 mil. year with Pat’s contract continuing to rise going forward. That’s not even mentioning some of the other young guys we have coming due for contracts that aren’t gonna be cheap (Sneed, for instance).

I know who I’d extend and pay (Jones), but I have a feeling the Chiefs may go with the younger guy, who will also be a little cheaper, and honestly Jones would have way more trade value than OBJ. You may be able to land a second for OBJ, but Chris Jones would bring a minimum first and second.

I’d extend Jones, tag and trade OBJ, sign a stopgap for a year, draft a LT who excels at pass blocking and call it a day. But I’m not the Chiefs front office.

And I can understand the argument for why they might want to go the opposite direction, even if I don’t agree.

BossChief 01-07-2023 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16720542)
I just saw in the OP you think we get 2 firsts if we trade him? What????

You think a DT approaching 30 has meaningfully more value than Tyreek Hill?

I’d trade him for that without blinking. I think a mid first and a mid second would
be an amazing return and I’m desperate to keep him.

He’s currently 28 and is a DPOTY candidate.

I think it depends on the team trading for him on the pick. 2 firsts would be to a good team expecting to be picking in the 20s. Maybe a 1 snd 2 if it’s a little earlier.

Rain Man 01-08-2023 12:21 AM

What the h*** is happening in this thread? We're in the middle of a Super Bowl run. We don't talk about stuff like this.

And just for the record, Chris Jones is our best defensive lineman since Art Still in the early 1980s. He starts for our all-time team.

Megatron96 01-08-2023 02:36 AM

Veach will make him a fair offer, whatever that ends up looking like. And if CJ is really as loyal as he seems to KC and the Chiefs, he'll take the offer. Veach will not entertain a trade for CJ, unless Chris flat turns down the offer and/or asks to be traded.

scho63 01-08-2023 07:29 AM

Only in ChiefsPlanet Universe is it possible that 30 seconds after we finish 14-3, clinch our 7th straight AFC West Title, clinch home field advantage in the playoffs for the 3rd time in 5 years, have our 8th straight year in the playoffs which is currently the longest streak in the NFL, beat our #1 Divisional rival by 18 points, record 6 sacks with no turnovers, do we have someone decide that now would be a good time and idea to talk about trading our #1 Defensive player, who just recorded 2.5 sacks in the game.

Did the OP suffer a concussion during the game? :hmmm:

kcclone 01-08-2023 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 16720706)
He already did. There is a 99% probably we do not win a Super Bowl without him. Ready for a SCORCHING hot take? His 3 batted balls were just as critical as WASP.

We should not be paying him in 2023 and beyond based on what he did in Super Bowl LIV

MahomesMagic 01-08-2023 07:45 AM

We need to keep him.


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