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njchiefs 01-17-2021 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 15487047)
He got knocked the **** out dude. lol. "dizziness"...

No if you watch it carefully he may not have been “knocked” out. He may have briefly lost consciousness from transient interruption of blood flow to the brain from carotid compression. It would certainly cause him to stagger when he tried to stand up. It looked like he was dragged briefly by the neck, maybe choked. Important difference though because the risk from concussion is related to the traumatic bruise which doesn’t occur in a transient choking.

SupDock 01-17-2021 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 15487086)
Jelly legs. That's a sure sign the brain stem got wobbled. But I digress. It was just dizziness.

A wobbled brain stem?

Bearcat 01-17-2021 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by njchiefs (Post 15487106)
No if you watch it carefully he may not have been “knocked” out. He may have briefly lost consciousness from transient interruption of blood flow to the brain from carotid compression. It would certainly cause him to stagger when he tried to stand up. It looked like he was dragged briefly by the neck, maybe choked. Important difference though because the risk from concussion is related to the traumatic bruise which doesn’t occur in a transient choking.

Yeah, it's very clear on the replays. No helmet to helmet or even head contact... no hard contact with the turf. And someone in the GDT with an actual medical background was guessing neck compression type of issues.

Standing up and wobbling all over the place, it certainly looked like he had gotten knocked out, but he didn't.

GloryDayz 01-17-2021 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 15487034)
A couple people in the GDT mentioned something along the lines of "neck compression"... not a concussion, but something that can cause dizziness.

I watched that replay several times and there wasn't helmet to helmet contact and I'm pretty sure his head didn't make contact with the turf.

I'm sure their protocols side on extreme caution.

Cool, that's kind of what I saw too.

Pants 01-17-2021 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 15487127)
Yeah, it's very clear on the replays. No helmet to helmet or even head contact... no hard contact with the turf. And someone in the GDT with an actual medical background was guessing neck compression type of issues.

Standing up and wobbling all over the place, it certainly looked like he had gotten knocked out, but he didn't.

Mack Wilson's forearm slammed into his neck where I think the carotid artery runs.

petegz28 01-17-2021 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 15487135)
Mack Wilson's forearm slammed into his neck where I think the carotid artery runs.

The kneebuckle when he stood up obviously was not good but from the sounds of it he probably could have gone back in. Not saying he should have but probably could have. Doesn't seem like it was any kind of concussion.

njchiefs 01-17-2021 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 15487135)
Mack Wilson's forearm slammed into his neck where I think the carotid artery runs.

Right, so I suspect he’ll have some kind of arteriography, CTA or MRA or at least an ultrasound to confirm that he hasn’t done any damage (ie dissection) to the carotids.

SupDock 01-17-2021 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by njchiefs (Post 15487184)
Right, so I suspect he’ll have some kind of arteriography, CTA or MRA or at least an ultrasound to confirm that he hasn’t done any damage (ie dissection) to the carotids.

I bet he gets MRI/MRA because of the injury.
Might as well look at the noodle too

None of it is probably necessary though

htismaqe 01-17-2021 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 15486837)
The guy has to run enough as is on designed passes. As said, He's not backing off any call. You have running backs to get "tough yards". They're not called tough yards for nothing.

Mahomes throws the ball. He's the best on the planet. So until you have someone behind him that can do what he can, you leave the route running, and the plowing headlong into the teeth of the defense to the guys on your roster paid to ****ing do that.

If you watched both games today, you saw more than one QB sneak.

Just stop.

Pablo 01-17-2021 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 15487109)
A wobbled brain stem?

Yeah, you just slide a folded cigarette box under one side and it's gonna even itself out. Easy peasy.

petegz28 01-17-2021 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15487236)
If you watched both games today, you saw more than one QB sneak.

Just stop.

I get what you're saying but sneaks are nothing like the kind of runs Patrick usually does or the one he got hurt on today. In fact he is the only QB I have ever seen get hurt on a sneak and that was a complete fluke.

Deberg_1990 01-17-2021 10:15 PM

Starting to be a Little concerned Mahomes is injury prone. Protect his ass.

He’s certainly no ‘Ironman’ Favre, Rivers or Manning.

petegz28 01-17-2021 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15487253)
Starting to be a Little concerned Mahomes is injury prone. Protect his ass.

He’s certainly no ‘Ironman’ Favre, Rivers or Manning.

I think today's injury was a bit fluky and I wouldn't call him "injury prone". Dude is tough and takes some hits.

But go back to the Miami game and probably even before but they beat the shit out of him. New Orleans beat the shit out of him. Atlanta beat the shit out of him.

Dude has taken a lot of hits from poor protection this season and especially late in the season.

penguinz 01-17-2021 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15487253)
Starting to be a Little concerned Mahomes is injury prone. Protect his ass.

He’s certainly no ‘Ironman’ Favre, Rivers or Manning.

You continue to show your football ignorance. Both injuries have been odd contact injuries. That does not make him injury prone.

alanm 01-17-2021 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 15486950)
The Chiefs have already removed the QB sneak play from their playbook that every other team runs... it’s a contact sport and shit happens.

And that was a overreaction too. Pat's a big boy he should be able to line up behind center and get 1 yrd when need be. You can't treat him like he's a ****ing china doll. :harumph:


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