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staylor26 03-10-2022 04:18 PM

When they zig, you zag.

The last few years not having 1st round picks and watching the Broncos and Chargers stack up on young talent has frustrated me.

Now, it’s us with the opportunity to use the draft while those teams go all-in.

And the best part is we can just as easily come out on top.

BossChief 03-10-2022 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 16184583)
Sure as shit would have given our 2nd and 3rd rounder for Von Miller last year. If Von Miller was wearing red in January/February last year Mahomes and Reid have their 2nd ring.

**** that.

I’ll keep Bolton and Creed if it’s all the same to you.

-King- 03-10-2022 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16184590)
Not having cost controlled players with those picks is eventually going to **** that team over.

And so far…all they got out of it was one ring. Just like us.

The Rams have a younger roster than us...

https://www.phillyvoice.com/ranking-...-2021-edition/

The Franchise 03-10-2022 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16184597)
The Rams have a younger roster than us...

https://www.phillyvoice.com/ranking-...-2021-edition/

What does age have to do with cost controlled players that are starters?

The Franchise 03-10-2022 04:22 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chargers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chargers</a> are taking on all of Mack’s contract — three years at $63.9M. The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bears?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bears</a> move on with the picks. <a href="https://t.co/hDXR9qZa1Z">https://t.co/hDXR9qZa1Z</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1502046671542308870?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

threebag 03-10-2022 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 16184542)
AFCW in panic mode now that Russ is in the division.

You been reading Marty and Clays bullshit too?

staylor26 03-10-2022 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16184597)
The Rams have a younger roster than us...

https://www.phillyvoice.com/ranking-...-2021-edition/

How many Nick Bolton, Creed Humphrey, Trey Smith caliber players do they have on rookie deals? How many will they have?

It’s not just about the roster being young. It’s about cost controlled talent.

ForeverIowan 03-10-2022 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16184594)
When they zig, you zag.

The last few years not having 1st round picks and watching the Broncos and Chargers stack up on young talent has frustrated me.

Now, it’s us with the opportunity to use the draft while those teams go all-in.

And the best part is we can just as easily come out on top.

You take that attitude you are likely to end up the Seahawks or even Packers for that matter. Never willing to take a gamble to put your franchise over the top. That in turn will be a really damn good way to piss off Mahomes. Dude takes an enormous team friendly deal and the front office never gets truly aggressive to pile up rings. HOF coaches and HOF pass catchers dont grow on trees have to strike in the next 2-3 years! Regroup from there.

duncan_idaho 03-10-2022 04:23 PM

Well damn. That seems like a steal for Mack.

rabblerouser 03-10-2022 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16184535)

And lowkey, I feel more pull for a capable RB to take pressure of the passing game.

Not saying we need to sell the farm or draft one early, but... we need the run game to be consistently successful moving forward.

So, low-key want to point out that CEH and McKinnon combined for over 100 yards and almost 5 ypc in the Bengals playoff loss.

Wouldn't matter if Walter Payton in his prime is back there if Andy won't run the ****ing ball.

Spoiler!

staylor26 03-10-2022 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 16184609)
You take that attitude you are likely to end up the Seahawks or even Packers for that matter. Never willing to take a gamble to put your franchise over the top. That in turn will be a really damn good way to piss off Mahomes. Dude takes an enormous team friendly deal and the front office never gets truly aggressive to pile up rings. HOF coaches and HOF pass catchers dont grow on trees have to strike in the next 2-3 years! Regroup from there.

I literally said they should make a big splash this offseason.

Those teams ended up the way they did because they didn’t draft well enough.

Also, the Packers aren’t a good example considering talent hasn’t at all been the problem the last few years.

TomBarndtsTwin 03-10-2022 04:26 PM

Not sure what Mack’s salary cap number is, but wish we could have made that trade . . . . .

The Franchise 03-10-2022 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 16184615)
Not sure what Mack’s salary cap number is, but wish we could have made that trade . . . . .

2022 - $17.5 million
2023 - $22.7 million
2024 - $23 million

DJ's left nut 03-10-2022 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16184605)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chargers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chargers</a> are taking on all of Mack’s contract — three years at $63.9M. The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bears?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bears</a> move on with the picks. <a href="https://t.co/hDXR9qZa1Z">https://t.co/hDXR9qZa1Z</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1502046671542308870?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

There's no guaranteed money left on his deal and the signing bonuses all appear to have converted. So he'll carry cap hits of $17.75, $22.9 and $23.25 million over the next 3 years with the Chargers looking at zero risk as they can cut him with no harm done.

The one issue I could see with the contract is that the base salaries are already pretty high so they can't really wiggle out of much there absent turning it into bonus that will then start to make things difficult to move on from him if they chose to. Then again, if it knocks his year 1 hit down, it makes rollover that forward pays it anyway.

Similar to the Ben Grubbs extension when we traded for him. We immediately extended him and pushed some salary into bonus, but his year 1 cap got so low it created a lot of rollover that essentially covered the dead money when we ended up releasing him when it turned out he was a broke-dick.

BryanBusby 03-10-2022 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16184610)
Well damn. That seems like a steal for Mack.

Is it? I'm not sure. He has played with a very good Robert Quinn lately and hasn't really impressed.

Maybe Bosa taking the attention will change things.


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