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Calcountry 09-08-2005 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by KC Kings
How is it ridiculous? The people suffering weren't the rich owners of the bars, strip clubs, or casinos. If God punished them they were guilty only by association. Any religous leader that believes that God targeted the victims merely because of association better watch out themselves because knowing the sinful things that were going on and doing nothing to stop it make you just as guilty.
Why do you think Chiefs Planet overloads so much?

KC Kings 09-08-2005 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowser
KC Kings...are you saying you agree with what was put up on that sign, and that New Orleans had to be "punished" or "cleansed"?

Not at all. The people that suffered and died were not the ones responsible for or benifitting from the sinfull activities that NO is known for. A poverty stricken eldery grandmother is no more responisble for the sins of the Big Easy than a Texas preacher is for knowing what went on and not doing anything to stop it. If God specifically setout to drown grandmothers in sewage water to pay for the sins of NO, then the preacher better watch his steps because he is just as guilty.

Simplex3 09-08-2005 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowser
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but I don't think saying this sign is bullshit makes us hypocrites, unless we're going to his church and telling this nut and his followers that they should go to New Orleans so they can marry voodoo women and live in sin.
Anyone who "feels" for these "poor people who had to read this sign" but don't feel for the church members who have to view scenes and hear stories from NO, which is equally offensive to them, is a hypocrite. Those people have made a decision about who they care about being offended and who they don't based on who-knows-what criteria.

keg in kc 09-08-2005 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla
Are we going to turn into salt for watching it on TV?!?
I'd lick myself. Although I guess my tongue would be salt, too. Mmm, salt.

kepp 09-08-2005 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by luv2rite
I know that part of being a pastor is telling people things that they may not want to hear. But that is to his people who choose to go to that church. I would think they would want a sign that attracks people to the church. Well, this one did, I guess. People calling, news crews, etc. He's probably loving it. While what he said may be true. There is sin in EVERY city in the US. Why point out this city at a time when the wounds are still fresh? I think it was tactless. He could share the same message later, when things have calmed down. People are way too emotional at this point. Good message, bad timing. IMO.
I agree completely. The message of the sign is not, IMO, incorrect. But a sign is not the way to get the message across and his timing shows lack of judgement and respect. Of course, when you read the Bible, God's prophets and preachers didn't sugarcoat His message for fear of it not being received well...

Bowser 09-08-2005 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Phobia
I thought there was some sarcasm there, but I could be wrong. I think it's best that I just leave this thread alone because I'm a real dumbass.
Good point.

About the thread, not you being a dumbass. :D

luv 09-08-2005 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla
That is interesting. What else could one put on a sign? Nudity? Swearing? Sex-acts?
I've seen several trucks that have the outlines of naked women on them, people pissing, and you've never seen a bumper sticker that had a cuss word on it?

keg in kc 09-08-2005 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Simplex3
Anyone who "feels" for these "poor people who had to read this sign" but don't feel for the church members who have to view scenes and hear stories from NO, which is equally offensive to them, is a hypocrite. Those people have made a decision about who they care about being offended and who they don't based on who-knows-what criteria.
What's this "offended" shit? Why the hell don't people get a clue. If you don't like something, here's a new idea...don't fucking do it. Lead by example.

As for "viewing scenes and hearing stories from NO", uh, well, if you don't approve...quit viewing the scenes and listening to the stories. If you're "offended", it's your own fucking fault, unless you're strapped into a chair with your eyes taped open being force fed scenes of debauchery. Turn it off, close the book, find something good to experience. Stop being a voyeur and live your own life.

Rain Man 09-08-2005 12:12 PM
I wonder if the preacher would've put this sign up if his mother or sibling had died in the flood.

Pitt Gorilla 09-08-2005 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc
What's this "offended" shit? Why the hell don't people get a clue. If you don't like something, here's a new idea...don't fucking do it. Lead by example.

As for "viewing scenes and hearing stories from NO", uh, well, if you don't approve...quit viewing the scenes and listening to the stories. If you're "offended", it's your own fucking fault, unless you're strapped into a chair with your eyes taped open being force fed scenes of debauchery.
Stop being a voyeur and live your own life.
They're "offended" by knowledge of its existence, or something.

Simplex3 09-08-2005 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc
What's this "offended" shit? Why the hell don't people get a clue. If you don't like something, here's a new idea...don't fucking do it. Lead by example.

As for "viewing scenes and hearing stories from NO", uh, well, if you don't approve...quit viewing the scenes and listening to the stories. If you're "offended", it's your own fucking fault, unless you're strapped into a chair with your eyes taped open being force fed scenes of debauchery. Turn it off, close the book, find something good to experience. Stop being a voyeur and live your own life.
My point was that these two boobs from NO should have done the same thing when they saw this sign.

jspchief 09-08-2005 12:38 PM
I wonder if part of their Baptist belief includes disrespecting the dead. Or maybe they just preach general poor taste.

Mr. Laz 09-08-2005 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Simplex3
This is what I hate about BOTH sides of this coin. He posted it and you act like it's something.

The guy and his church believe a fairly strict set of rules. NO is a city that prides itself on breaking those rules. I didn't hear you guys crying about the fact that these church members were being offended every day that NO did it's thing.

Now the roles are reversed and the church is doing their thing and you guys are all bent out of shape. Hypocrites.

Like a wise comedian once said: "Don't kick a man while he's down? What better time is there to kick a man?"
ah ... but the people in NO weren't going around telling this church how to live/feel/act.


the difference is who is try to shove their beliefs onto other people.


one side is just living

the other side is trying to judge/condemn how everyone else lives

Adept Havelock 09-08-2005 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Boozer
http://www.geomembrane.com/040121%20Cross%20003sm.jpg
You go ahead and climb up there, I'll go grab some nails....
Beautiful comment.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Pennywise 09-08-2005 12:45 PM
That sign shoud read 'Welcome to Tyler! The asshole of Texas.'


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