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Rausch 09-11-2005 08:48 PM
Keep in mind this is also the 1st regular season game these guys have been together. As the weeks pass this defense will only get better and better...

Raiderhater 09-11-2005 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SideWinder
On that first fumble in the shotgun, he was looking at Sammy Knight showing blitz, rather than watching the ball at the snap.

On the fumble on the center exchange, he was focusing on the LBs showing blitz, rather than the snap.

Yeah, they did make some errors, but in Pennington's case, it was pretty apparent that he was rattled by the Chiefs D.

They might have been unforced errors, but they were the result of a more aggressive, physical D.


By no means do I intend to take anything away from our boys, but Chad has been playing the game long enough that he should be able to recognize a defense and hold on to the ball at the same time. I mean there were a LOT of balls that got away from him today, way too many for a vet. We were rough on him today, but not that rough.

ROYC75 09-11-2005 08:50 PM
About the only piece of good execution by the Jets came in the third quarter, when nose tackle James Reed got into a sideline fight with linebacker Jonathan Vilma and punched him in the mouth. Reed was about the only Jet to finish a play he started.


ROFL

milkman 09-11-2005 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by raiderhader
By no means do I intend to take anything away from our boys, but Chad has been playing the game long enough that he should be able to recognize a defense and hold on to the ball at the same time. I mean there were a LOT of balls that got away from him today, way too many for a vet. We were rough on him today, but not that rough.
Maybe, but he looked like a deer in the headlights today.

If you can, watch the replays and pay attention to where Chad has his focus on those fumbles.

It's clear it's on the D, and not the ball.

Raiderhater 09-11-2005 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SideWinder
Maybe, but he looked like a deer in the headlights today.

If you can, watch the replays and pay attention to where Chad has his focus on those fumbles.

It's clear it's on the D, and not the ball.

I'm not denying that his focus was on the D. I'm just saying that a vet QB has no business allowing himself to get that rattled over the D showing a possible blitz (sans taking a major beating).

leviw 09-11-2005 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by raiderhader
I'm not denying that his focus was on the D. I'm just saying that a vet QB has no business allowing himself to get that rattled over the D showing a possible blitz (sans taking a major beating).
It was also his first game at Arrowhead. I don't know the exact number, but the record of opposing QBs making their first appearance at Arrowhead is amazingly lobsided in KC's favor in recent years. I'm sure it makes a difference.

alanm 09-11-2005 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc
The way Priest Holmes was getting stacked up in the second half, I wouldn't complain about carries, either. I hope Roaf's back fast, because Bookends Black and Bober did not impress.

Scoring 2 TD helped, too.
Black's going to end up being a stud. He'll do fine at LT. The one who needs to get his ass on the field is Sampson.

bringbackmarty 09-11-2005 09:15 PM
We really need a dt through fa\(act of god) right now, or a trade. even a de street fa so browning can play dt exclusively. Other than that I think there is a lot of potential on this d. we should play even more 3-4 as the season progresses and we get more experience in gunthers scheme. We will struggle a bit next week on pass d, but our rush should make us some plays again. I just wish there was someone we could add on that line.

leviw 09-11-2005 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bringbackmarty
We really need a dt through fa\(act of god) right now, or a trade. even a de street fa so browning can play dt exclusively. Other than that I think there is a lot of potential on this d. we should play even more 3-4 as the season progresses and we get more experience in gunthers scheme. We will struggle a bit next week on pass d, but our rush should make us some plays again. I just wish there was someone we could add on that line.
Nate Hobgood-Chittic?

KChiefs1 09-11-2005 09:26 PM
What is the timeline to get Sampson back at RT?

Shag 09-11-2005 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by keg in kc
Now if we could take care of the whole "TE over the middle" problem, we'd be golden.
And the bootleg. We were 0-for-2 defending the bootleg tonight, and both went for long first downs. We need to get that figured out before week 3 - I don't think I could bear a repeat by the bootlegging donx...

Rain Man 09-11-2005 09:36 PM
One thing to remember about Bober and Black is that they were both playing out of position, and they were playing against Shaun Ellis, generally recognized a top all-around defensive end, and John Abraham, one of the best pass rushers against the league. They didn't necessarily win their battles, but under the circumstances they did better than could be expected.


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