Most of the nano's will prolley be recalled here, customers are pissed on how easy they scratch. We are talking a fingernail will ruin a nano, that is how soft the material they made them with are... They look great and have a color screen but come on there are tons of other mp3 players that are better.. That olympus mp3/video/camera is great, they were on sale for 150 after rebate a few weeks ago...

Examples? Are you serious? Have you not looked at the market lately?

Oops, forgot, Mac zealot. Okay, go to www.pricewatch.com & click on MP3 players. You'll see a large list of differing platforms and maufacturers to choose from.

My old pda could do that.. It was a hp model, you could also control vcrs/stereos anything that was a IR signal...

Just like what was mentioned about the way it hooks up to the car, it's just a cable that plugs in. Same as hooking up audio to any audio receiver. The iPod or Creative player or whatever you choose just plugs in to the audio input and you're done. So your argument of having a wide variety of products to choose from is obsolete. You can get any of those products with a different MP3 player as well.

I'm glad you brought this up. When I had my treo I used Winamp to stream music via a web address. Connect to that with your Treo and whoa-la...my 800GB of desktop HD space was now my MP3 player space.

Yep... same deal here, only in wristwatch form. I get a kick out of reactions as he flips through stations. Best is when the employees pick up the remote and switch the channel back, only to have it flip through stations again as they sit the remote down :D

He is correct, generally anything that says it works with IPOD either has another accessory for a different mp3 or will hook up to that mp3 player.. Ipod is just great at marketing, 4 out of 5 mp3 players sold are ipod.. And of that 4 out of 5 people paying for a Ipod or misinformed or trendy or sheep...

I have a nano and I can run my fingernail on it all day and it won't scratch. From what I understand, it is the same material that iPods have always been cast in, but the black material makes scratches much more obvious.

I use mine a lot and it has a few scratches, but not bad at all. I don't even carry it in a case. I do plan to buy one to keep it from scratching more.

Thats good for you, because at my work since those things released we have had about 13 returned, I get yelled at for some reason... Did you buy the 2 or 4gig model???

Yeah, I use it for everything... It cost a pretty penny, but I get my money's worth!

Not correct.

The way the car systems work is this... Manufacturers make the car stereo with the ability to hook an iPod to it with the PROPRIETARY iPod connector. Why is this needed? Because it allows the stereo to control the iPod without seeing the iPod... it acts like a disc changer. The plug in cable is installed in the glove compartment so you can hook in the iPod and close it away. The car stereo then, not only controls the iPod, it displays the track information as well.

The BMW install, for example, lets the driver change tracks with the controls on the steering wheel. Others through the head unit, steering wheel or remote control. Again, choices galore.

4GB. Best bang for the buck.

Were all of the returned ones black?

They're not cheap, but if you don't have to buy a $300 or $400 MP3 player ALSO then you're saving money. Not to mention they'll do navigation, email, IMs, web browsing, they'll connect to domain servers, they can be used for barcoding or as keys (realtors use them to get into houses now) plus MANY more features.

They truly are the best bang for your buck. I ended up selling mine because I wanted to try out the HP model that had wireless networking and ran on MS instead of Palm. That one was a little bit ahead of its time. Most of its features had little bugs.

And none offer all the options an iPod does.

Ok. I looked through the MP3 accessories area and found a few FM transmitters (who really wants those anyway? the quality is horrible) and a case and a charger for an iRiver.

Is that the huge market that I missed? It must be my zealotness clouding the view ;)