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Mark M 11-21-2005 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc
I think sometimes we're enamored with the stats that don't matter. We look for flash when substance is what's really important.

Last year we allowed just under 115 yards rushing at 4.6 ypc, and gave up 18 rushing TDs. This year we have what amounts to the same defensive line, but we're giving up less than 90 yards rushing at a 3.9 ypc clip. We've only allowed 5 rushing scores. Kendrell Bell has been a big part of that.

He hasn't been what I thought he'd be, either. I envisioned a big sack total, a blur off the edge, maybe more of a playmaker. What we've gotten is a hard-nosed, hard-hitting linebacker who's attacked blocking linemen and helped funnel plays to the guys around him. Kawika Mitchell is having the year he's having in no small part because of Bell's play. The same can be said of Derrick Johnson. The fact is, the guy's been involved in a number of plays, and he's been, I think, an important catalyst in the vastly improved rush defense. He's looked more comfortable of late dropping into zone in passing situations, too.

Now, would I like to see a little more pass rush presence? Sure, although frankly we don't seem to use him that way as often as I expected. But I'm not going to complain about what we're getting. He's not a bust, not in any way. The defense is better, clearly and obviously better, particularly at the linebacker position. We're good there, across the board, for the first time in my memory. So Johnson and Mitchell are reaping the benefits of that, building up the big (but ultimately empty) tackle stats. Big deal. Bell's been a part of the equation, too. A big part. We're playing better because he's on the field, same as with Knight and Surtain.

Maybe the stats aren't as flashy as we'd like, but the results, as a unit, are looking pretty good from where I'm sitting.

What is this? Logic? A cool head? Key insight?

You sure you're on the right message board? ;)

The fact is, people such as myself and many others don't tape or TiVo a game and then go back and check like some folks here do. All we know is that:

a.) his name has hardly been called.
ii.) his blitzes suck.
C.) he's missed several key tackles.

Now, he could very well be doing the intangible things well. Which is good. But this team needs playmakers ... bad. I'm just not sure he's one of them.

MM
~~:arrow:

the Talking Can 11-21-2005 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc
I think sometimes we're enamored with the stats that don't matter. We look for flash when substance is what's really important.

Last year we allowed just under 115 yards rushing at 4.6 ypc, and gave up 18 rushing TDs. This year we have what amounts to the same defensive line, but we're giving up less than 90 yards rushing at a 3.9 ypc clip. We've only allowed 5 rushing scores. Kendrell Bell has been a big part of that.

He hasn't been what I thought he'd be, either. I envisioned a big sack total, a blur off the edge, maybe more of a playmaker. What we've gotten is a hard-nosed, hard-hitting linebacker who's attacked blocking linemen and helped funnel plays to the guys around him. Kawika Mitchell is having the year he's having in no small part because of Bell's play. The same can be said of Derrick Johnson. The fact is, the guy's been involved in a number of plays, and he's been, I think, an important catalyst in the vastly improved rush defense. He's looked more comfortable of late dropping into zone in passing situations, too.

Now, would I like to see a little more pass rush presence? Sure, although frankly we don't seem to use him that way as often as I expected. But I'm not going to complain about what we're getting. He's not a bust, not in any way. The defense is better, clearly and obviously better, particularly at the linebacker position. We're good there, across the board, for the first time in my memory. So Johnson and Mitchell are reaping the benefits of that, building up the big (but ultimately empty) tackle stats. Big deal. Bell's been a part of the equation, too. A big part. We're playing better because he's on the field, same as with Knight and Surtain.

Maybe the stats aren't as flashy as we'd like, but the results, as a unit, are looking pretty good from where I'm sitting.

nice post...I hope you're right

Skyy God 11-21-2005 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc
What we've gotten is a hard-nosed, hard-hitting linebacker who's attacked blocking linemen and helped funnel plays to the guys around him.

All well and good, but he's being paid to shed blockers and make plays. His play could very well be an important part of the D's improvement. Or it could be Surtain. Or Knight. Or DJ. Or Mitchell's vast improvement. The bottom line is that his impact is extremely minimal in proportion to his contract.

Lzen 11-21-2005 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark M
And all this time I was pronouncing it "dumb ass."

My fault ...

MM
~~:p

You, too?
:p


Metrolike,
When have you ever heard/seen Kawika say that it's pronounced Kavika?

Man, this is confusing. Like Patrick Surtain. Is it pronounced Sur- tan(ning lotion) or Sur- tane(rhymes with pain)?

Fish 11-21-2005 02:03 PM

I've defended Bell all year.... I keep saying it's a new scheme, he's getting his confidence back, he's not being utilized correctly..... blah blah...

But the fact is, we're paying him enough to be a playmaker. Yes he's stuffing the line and making a bunch of 3yd stops, but I think we've got young guys that could do the same thing. We brought him in to be a playmaker... and half way through the season he isn't living up to it. I hope it will turn into a Kawika type of growth into the defensive scheme, but I'm not seing it yet. He doesn't seem to be playing with much intensity. He's been an average LB that is getting the job done, but that's it........

wolfpack0735 11-21-2005 02:53 PM

maybe its the new system? i thought he was used to playing the inside? who knows. i thought he`d be making more bigger plays. maybe he has helped mitchell out,so mitchell dosnt have to worry about bell`s side anymore. who knows but the three as a group have been pretty good this year. besides i thought his contract was cheap this year.

MIAdragon 11-21-2005 03:18 PM

He just looks SLOW.

Rain Man 11-21-2005 03:44 PM

If anyone can put up a clip of that early play where Carr was running to the right sidelines with Bell chasing him, I'd appreciate it. It looked like Mitchell was running twice the speed of Bell, but the disparity was so large that I have to think that it was just an angle oddity or something.

Bob Dole 11-21-2005 03:51 PM

For the record:

Full name: Kawika Uilani Mitchell (pronounced kuh-VEE-ka).

Source

Scalper 11-21-2005 03:54 PM

He is good if the other team runs the ball or if we blitz him but he cant cover worth a shit

Hydrae 11-21-2005 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Dole
For the record:

Full name: Kawika Uilani Mitchell (pronounced kuh-VEE-ka).

Source

From the same list:

Full name: Patrick Frank Surtain (pronounced SIR-tan).

Alphaman 11-21-2005 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcxiv
Alot of 3 wide sets. Chiefs go to nickle and he is out.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Ahhh a voice of reason. I was at the game and saw that we played probably 70% nickel. Bell was not on the field alot.

Bowser 11-21-2005 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphaman
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Ahhh a voice of reason. I was at the game and saw that we played probably 70% nickel. Bell was not on the field alot.

And we only gave up 10 points on defense? :hmmm:

shaneo69 11-21-2005 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alphaman
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Ahhh a voice of reason. I was at the game and saw that we played probably 70% nickel. Bell was not on the field alot.

So he's strictly a two-down player. I thought that was the problem with paying Hartwell the big bucks, that he would never be on the field on 3rd down. If this is the case, Kavika is gonna get a $20 mil signing bonus when he becomes a free agent, simply because he's on the field in all situations.

I'm kind of in Keg's corner here though. As long as the entire defense is playing well, like they have the past 2-3 games, I'm not going to complain about Bell's Lew Bush-like production.

KChiefsQT 11-21-2005 05:25 PM

Bell is a joke.

Is it just me or are people getting banned left and right??? His wife must have left already... no lovin!!


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