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RedThat 03-06-2006 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
I would encourage you to look elsewhere for entertainment.

For us, the Chiefs is a hobby. For Lamar Hunt, it's a BUSINESS.

You know that Irsay had to liquidate assets from other NON-FOOTBALL business ventures to pay Manning's signing bonus?

This isn't Madden on the PS2.

I like the Chiefs. But this is the hard part about being a Chiefs fan. Seeing this team with a lot of holes to fill on defense, and them electing to stand pat, and not sign anybody. From a fans perspective, I'm just trying to express my concern for the team. That is all.

I know this is not PS2, madden. Im not saying they have to go out and sign every probowler on defense. I'm just saying, I'd like to see them sign some better players on defense to improve. Thats all. I'd like to see my team competitive, because I do care. If I didn't care, I wouldn't be a fan.

The Bad Guy 03-06-2006 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBull
Thank you. This is exactly where I was trying to get at. Competitiveness. Does Lamar have it?
:shrug:

I really don't know anymore.

I mean, I can't imagine pumping billions of dollars into a product and watching another team hold your trophy every year.

If my name was on a trophy, and my health was failing, I would be doing everything possible to get to hold that trophy one last time.

htismaqe 03-06-2006 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz
so which is it?

"obviously they want to win it all in Indy"

or

"Indy subscribes to the every-other-year model the same way we do"

They subscribe to the every-other-year model. Lots of teams do. You act like this is something they do because they feel like it. It's the reality of big business.

The difference is that, in a year where Indy wouldn't normally have doled out signing bonuses, they found a way to give Manning the largest bonus in the history of the game.

Mr. Laz 03-06-2006 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by leviw
Cheer for someone else then. Like whoever Vinaterri signs with, perhaps?

DAM!!!!

so close ... if only you would of included "true fan" in there someplace.


"missed it by Thaat much!"

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htismaqe 03-06-2006 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz
always taking the smartass cheapshot at the nearest fan... aren't ya.

it's my understand that the team CAN'T make big commitments based on a no cap year.

bonuses can't be pro-rated past the end of the CBA so that doesn't save a team any money. The yearly increase can't be beyond 30% for next year either.

looks like someone's argument does have a HUGE hole it.

There are an infinite number of ways that a contract could be structured, taking into account the lack of a CBA, that would not work if a cap was suddenly re-introduced.

You know that as well as I do, but since you're bitter, you feel inclined to argue anyway.

Mr. Laz 03-06-2006 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
They subscribe to the every-other-year model. Lots of teams do. You act like this is something they do because they feel like it. It's the reality of big business.

The difference is that, in a year where Indy wouldn't normally have doled out signing bonuses, they found a way to give Manning the largest bonus in the history of the game.

so they subscribe to the same method we do "with exceptions"


kinda a traditional model (with extras)

htismaqe 03-06-2006 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull
I like the Chiefs. But this is the hard part about being a Chiefs fan. Seeing this team with a lot of holes to fill on defense, and them electing to stand pat, and not sign anybody. From a fans perspective, I'm just trying to express my concern for the team. That is all.

I know this is not PS2, madden. Im not saying they have to go out and sign every probowler on defense. I'm just saying, I'd like to see them sign some better players on defense to improve. Thats all. I'd like to see my team competitive, because I do care. If I didn't care, I wouldn't be a fan.

When did they stand pat?

Mr. Laz 03-06-2006 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
When did they stand pat?

keeping the same players(even re-signing the same players) is standing pat.



if those players weren't successful it's doubly frustrating

RedThat 03-06-2006 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
When did they stand pat?

Do you really have to ask that question? Is it necessary? If you're chiefs fan you should know. 2004 they stood pat. Gunthers first year here.

The Bad Guy 03-06-2006 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
When did they stand pat?

2004.

I don't know how you could stand pat with a new coach. He can't just give him Vermeil's guys and expect everything to work out.

htismaqe 03-06-2006 12:05 PM

They signed several free agents in 2004.

It may be that they didn't do what we wanted them to.

It's certain that they signed the wrong guys.

But they did not stand pat.

Mr. Laz 03-06-2006 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
They signed several free agents in 2004.

It may be that they didn't do what we wanted them to.

It's certain that they signed the wrong guys.

But they did not stand pat.

jerome woods
eric hicks
greg wesley
jason dunn

oooh ooh ... they did add 3rd string QB damon Huard and utility backup Chris Bober.

oh yea... they tried to sign Az Hazim too ... but he bolted before signing IIRC.



:clap:

RedThat 03-06-2006 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
You're assuming that the restructures they've done don't assume that there will be no cap. If these conditional restructures give out big sums of money, assuming that they'll be swallowed during the uncapped season, then your argument has a HUGE hole in it.



I'm sure you know exactly what it takes to be an NFL GM. If only they were working instead of staring out the window...

First off, Htis, Im not assuming that there will be no cap. All I'm saying is, the current contracts that have been restructured, in addition to that, the current contracts that have been terminated have put us under the current cap(94.5mill). I mean that is the impression I'm getting after reading Merrill's article. She did say, that there woulda been no cuts Sunday regardless. So this has to mean that the Chiefs are under the current cap? right? I can't think of anything else?
:shrug:

So what Im saying, is, if they're under the cap already. Why not keep those contracts the same? If you have a new CBA reached, the new cap number is projected to rise another 10+ million. So why not sign a defensive player or 2?
You have the cap room to work with....this is what Im trying to get at.

Mr. Laz 03-06-2006 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBull
this is what Im trying to get at.

he knows exactly what you were getting at

The Bad Guy 03-06-2006 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
They signed several free agents in 2004.

It may be that they didn't do what we wanted them to.

It's certain that they signed the wrong guys.

But they did not stand pat.

They stood pat because they kept the same scabs around.

They signed Lional Dalton.

This interior defense needs a lot more than Lional Dalton.


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