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WilliamTheIrish 05-10-2006 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16
In short, he doesn't think we have the talent in the major league roster or in the minors for a successful rebuilding. Now, I chalked some of this up to what has to be almost complete unfamiliarity with our farm system. He said Gordona and Butler, yeah, but he didn't mention even guys like Burgos and I don't recall him mentioning Huber (who he drafted, iirc).

He also said that the Royals whacked over half their scouts as the came out of the Mr. K's trust.

But the farm system isn't as big a deal as spending cash wisely. Yea, lock up the guys you produce, then buy value.

The guy was smart as hell. I enjoyed that interview.

ROYC75 05-10-2006 09:16 PM

BTW, speaking about TY Law, Blow Bag Rhonda Moss is blabb'n about TY coming to KC. Says he is very signable and that Ty has told TG that he wants to be in KC.......

Just some dope on another BB site...... I wouldn't put any trust into it, OK.

ChiefsCountry 05-10-2006 09:20 PM

Mets drafted some real studs under Phillips - Reyes and Wright.

58-4ever 05-10-2006 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75
BTW, speaking about TY Law, Blow Bag Rhonda Moss is blabb'n about TY coming to KC. Says he is very signable and that Ty has told TG that he wants to be in KC.......

Just some dope on another BB site...... I would put any trust into it, OK.

which BB site?

VonneMarie 05-10-2006 09:45 PM

If anyone still cares, Jack Harry said NBC41 contacted ESPN personally... and ESPN said there was no truth to the rumor. So he will probably be hired tommorrow. LOL

FringeNC 05-10-2006 10:11 PM

Well, the A's are used to fleecing Royals' GMs, and now Billy Beane's favorite GM (to fleece) will control the Royals. Steve Phillips is the anti-Moneyball GM.

The only silver lining is that if Dan Glass no longer has any control, maybe the GM after Phillips might have a chance.

Phillips is a joke.

leviw 05-10-2006 10:34 PM

This is stupid. Do you realize that Baird has to be fired before another GM can be hired????

tk13 05-10-2006 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by leviw
This is stupid. Do you realize that Baird has to be fired before another GM can be hired????

A lot of people are speculating that the reason the "changes" are taking so long is that Glass wants to have a smooth transition and have the next GM ready when he fires Baird.

tk13 05-10-2006 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC
Well, the A's are used to fleecing Royals' GMs, and now Billy Beane's favorite GM (to fleece) will control the Royals. Steve Phillips is the anti-Moneyball GM.

The only silver lining is that if Dan Glass no longer has any control, maybe the GM after Phillips might have a chance.

Phillips is a joke.

That might be my favorite part of the book, where he talks to other GM's. I'd recommend reading the book just for that alone, it's entertaining how he interacts with other GM's and his own baseball people. Beane is such a used car salesman. I can't believe other GM's deal with him. "Hey buddy! I got this guy I'll trade you! Yeah! He's f'ing great! And see! All I want in return is this one guy... yeah, him, he's just a fatass 3rd baseman! Nobody YOU really want! But I'll take him on, no big deal!" ROFL

leviw 05-10-2006 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13
A lot of people are speculating that the reason the "changes" are taking so long is that Glass wants to have a smooth transition and have the next GM ready when he fires Baird.

Yeah, that's fine. You still can't "announce" a new GM before firing the old one.

tk13 05-10-2006 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by leviw
Yeah, that's fine. You still can't "announce" a new GM before firing the old one.

Well, it's also possible Baird could be "re-assigned".

Although personally, for the man's own sake, I'd rather just see him take some time off. He's spent darn near half his life working his rear end off for this organization. His wife is probably the most patient human being on earth.

Mr. Kotter 05-10-2006 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13
Well, it's also possible Baird could be "re-assigned".

Although personally, for the man's own sake, I'd rather just see him take some time off. He's spent darn near half his life working his rear end off for this organization. His wife is probably the most patient human being on earth.

I think many would be okay with that; his service and loyalty are laudable, but he's clearly in over his head....and it's been pretty clear for awhile now.

Miles 05-10-2006 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry
Mets drafted some real studs under Phillips - Reyes and Wright.

Yep, two of the best young players in the game.

tk13 05-10-2006 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter
I think many would be okay with that; his service and loyalty are laudable, but he's clearly in over his head....and it's been pretty clear for awhile now.

I personally don't think he's in over his head as much as people would like to believe. He's probably too loyal. Not that he's a great GM, he's not perfect, but I think we could do a LOT worse. We could probably do better too. And even if he gets fired tomorrow there will still be a lot of the pieces that could develop into a good team. It's still too early to tell. That'll be his legacy to me, whether Gordon/Butler/Huber/Greinke/Bautista/Burgos/etc/etc/etc all succeed or fail.

Mr. Kotter 05-10-2006 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13
I personally don't think he's in over his head as much as people would like to believe. He's probably too loyal. Not that he's a great GM, he's not perfect, but I think we could do a LOT worse. We could probably do better too. And even if he gets fired tomorrow there will still be a lot of the pieces that could develop into a good team. It's still too early to tell. That'll be his legacy to me, whether Gordon/Butler/Huber/Greinke/Bautista/Burgos/etc/etc/etc all succeed or fail.

I agree the farm system can tell the tale of a good GM; but his FA blunders, and refusal to put pressure on the Glass family.....are indicative of a lack of cajones....IMHO.


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