fine ... you win


we are going to the super BOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

benefits? *perk*

gee, zach, i totally agree with you... :D :D :D

Now that's the kind of ridiculous hyperbole I come here for.

I've been around this place long enough to know what's going on. I don't expect you to admit improvement, no matter how tiny. It sets up improper expectations...

Weak.

well okay then, big man.

one day you're telling everyone had pathetic they are because preseason doesn't mean a thing.

the next you're telling them what a big deal it is that the defense is stopping the big play IN PRESEASON.


so step up ..... what does this big deal/big play stopping mean?




super bowl ... top 10 defense ... what?



laz
~waiting for the backpedaling to begin~

If we can keep our opponents offense on the field long enough then eventually their running backs and wide receivers will get tired. That's when we'll kick their ass.

No one knows shit about this defense yet. Stop judging them based on preseason games. The only thing we can say for certain is that they will be playing alot of cover two, and that DOES NOT mean they will be playing 10 yards off the line on 3rd and 3.

I'm wondering where you saw that I told anyone they were "pathetic" because the preseason "doesn't mean a thing." You sure love to talk in absolutes...

And yes, stopping the big play this PRESEASON IS a big deal. Why? Because we gave up big plays all over the place under Vermeil in preseason, and it turned out to be a portent of things to come.

What does it mean? It means that SOMETHING has changed. What is that something? I really don't know. Nor do I know if we're actually going to produce better results. I just know that it's a positive SIGN.

The above, of course, is "backpedaling".

ROFL

You can't even stand behind huge vague general statements yet you are asking the other person for a pinpoint prediction that reflects many many more variables than the one we are discussing I love it.

You were better off being a drama queen.

Facts and accuracy are only required when DEFENDING the team.

It's not required when bashing the team, because they deserve it.

Pretty much.

oh come now ... just because you used the word moron or idiot instead of pathetic doesn't change the basic jist.
so you're saying is, it COULD be a big deal IF they continue to improve??



interesting :hmmm:

btw ... who's bashing the team?

not me, i'm merely saying that stopping the big plays by itself doesn't mean much of anything.

I use the words "moron" and "idiot" quite a bit in reference to many Chiefs fans because they're unfortunately deserved. As for using them in the CONTEXT of saying that preseason, unequivocally, means NOTHING, I'd ask you to point out where I said that.

If you're talking about predictions of starting out 0-8 and their ilk, you can save it. Don't denigrate yourself by trying to defend such silliness.

And no, I'm not saying it COULD be a big deal. I'm saying it IS a big deal.

In the past 5 or so preseason, we've given up a ton of big plays in preseason and gone on to give up RECORD NUMBERS of big plays in the regular season. Elementary historical analysis says that giving up NO big plays this preseason is a GOOD change. Does that mean the trend will hold up and we'll give up no big plays in the regular season? Of course not. But then again, I'm not pretending to say that either.

Illustrating absurdity with absurdity is called "irony".