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BIG_DADDY 04-13-2007 10:18 AM

All I have to say is I am sure glad Herm fixed the offense.

Iowanian 04-13-2007 10:38 AM

The Webb-Hannon love affair sounds strangely similar to the smoke blown up our kiesters with

Jesse Haynes
Richard Smith
Ted White........

CosmicPal 04-13-2007 10:41 AM

It doesn't surprise me.

I think the Chief's draft position being where they are- should do nothing more than take the best overall available. We need another good draft year. Last year was a good draft- if we can duplicate that with some good young talent, then we can add depth through free agency.

I am one to believe we might have been 'secretly' blessed with some true talent in Hannon and Webb. I'll give Herm the benefit of the doubt and trust that he believes in these guys and their future to this team.

Just take the best damn player available in this year's draft.

Adding Jenkins to the D-Line via trade would be a tremendous boost to our draft as it wouldn't make drafting a DT such a major need.

Wile_E_Coyote 04-13-2007 10:57 AM

Suppose they would like to draft a WR or two & one doesn't fall for good value. Why trash the WRs you may have to go with? confidence does matter in young players

Brock 04-13-2007 10:59 AM

Why blab about receivers you might want to draft?

Wile_E_Coyote 04-13-2007 11:01 AM

How much interaction is there really between the head coach & all his players? What the players may read or hear about what was in the paper or radio could be their major feed back.

Vermeil may have been to close to players to let them go when needed

~prolly not making my point clear

EDIT: Edwards is in slash & burn mode trying to revamp an old team. I doubt he gives many the warm & fuzzies. A little boost could go along way

Iowanian 04-13-2007 11:11 AM

I see it this way.....a starting caliber DT, CB, WR, OT in the 1st, and I'm happy.

Eric 04-13-2007 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
The Webb-Hannon love affair sounds strangely similar to the smoke blown up our kiesters with

Jesse Haynes
Richard Smith
Ted White........

Those were undersized slow players.

But yeah, could be lying.

chop 04-13-2007 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY
All I have to say is I am sure glad Herm fixed the offense.


Yeah, when he first came here he stated that the Offense scored to quickly and didn't give the defense a chance to rest.

He did fix the scoring too quickly problem but his 3 and out offense doesn't seem to give the defense any more time to rest.

htismaqe 04-13-2007 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj
Do you agree with Herm? Do you agree with his reasoning?

No, I don't really agree with him.

I think you take the BPA regardless of position.

That being said, I also don't agree with the knuckleheads that say Herm can't draft and/or coach WR's. His 5 years in New York were INFINITELY better than Vermeil's 5 years here.

beer bacon 04-13-2007 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58
I've been trying to prepare people for this for weeks.

Not only does Herm not feel we need WR's, he feels they aren't good value in R1.

“For some reason, it takes them a while. Most rookie receivers don’t come in and light it up their first year. They struggle. The dynamics have changed for those guys from college to the NFL. You have to understand that when you draft a receiver in the first round. A lot of them don’t play their first year and even when they play, they don’t live up to expectations.
“You can find guys to help you at wide receiver later in the draft, definitely.”



I'm not sure why this comes as a huge shock to anyone......

At this point, I'm thinking we go CB in R1, trade down for Harrell or Tank, or reach for a player......

I hope we reach for the next Tamba Hali.

kcchiefsus 04-13-2007 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chagrin
I don't recall doing anything good with WR's on his JETS teams, his evaluation of WR's I would say, is not his strong point.

Does Santana Moss or Jericho Cotchery ring a bell?

bdeg 04-13-2007 01:38 PM

You guys have to note that this is an article put in the star based on Herm's earlier comments. It's not pre-draft deception, its an opinion on what we may do based on what Herm has said in the past and who we have scheduled to visit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CosmicPal
I am one to believe we might have been 'secretly' blessed with some true talent in Hannon and Webb. I'll give Herm the benefit of the doubt and trust that he believes in these guys and their future to this team.

I remember reading Webb was considered a 1st day talent who had character issues. He had like 1100 yards his senior year. From what I've read he's a hard worker and I couldn't be happier with his character. We may have gotten 2 absolute steals in Webb and Page(although don't get me wrong, Webb has not proven himself at all yet).

OnTheWarpath15 04-13-2007 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon
I hope we reach for the next Tamba Hali.

No kidding. This place was at DefCon 4 when he was taken last year.

That's why taking these so called "draft experts" word as gospel is wrong, IMO. Taking a guy a round or two early....that's a reach. Taking a guy 10 picks early.....not so much. Plus, I trust scouting departments over hacks getting paid by ESPN.


The word "reach" is used way too often on this board.

BIG_DADDY 04-13-2007 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chop
Yeah, when he first came here he stated that the Offense scored to quickly and didn't give the defense a chance to rest.

He did fix the scoring too quickly problem but his 3 and out offense doesn't seem to give the defense any more time to rest.

Exactly!!! ROFL


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