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Mr. Laz 05-07-2007 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy
Forgive me if this has been asked before, but does anyone know the difference in salary cap hit, if any, between releasing him June 1 and releasing him the day before the regular season?

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BigCatDaddy 05-07-2007 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz
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Awesome!

T-post Tom 05-07-2007 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser
I'm not sure that there is a sports talk host down there that has a man-crush on him like we have here.


:clap: :clap: :clap:

Listening to KK today was excruciatingly painful.

Halfcan 05-07-2007 09:53 PM

I am not gay- but I LOVE Trent.

bigbucks24 05-07-2007 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan1963
I still don't get this. Everyone expects to see him in a Dolphin uniform this season, but isn't there a good chance we will keep him? It's not like he is a washed out veteren QB. It doesn't make sense that we aren't considering him as a possible starter given where we are in the negotiations. I still think we should have him be our starter if he is hands down showing he's a better QB than Croyle and Huard. If we have cap room we should try to make it work with Trent rather cutting him and giving him up for nothing. As much as I dislike CP, I have to agree with his strategy here.

First, KC has told Trent that they plan to give Croyle 80% of the snaps in TC. I doubt there is a way to win the QB battle getting 10% of the snaps (assuming Damon gets the other 10%). Second, KC has told Trent that they want to get younger at the QB position and they want him to take a pay cut and be a back up. Third, Trent has told KC that he will not take a pay cut to play for the Chiefs and that he does not want to be a back up at this point in his carreer. I believe that there is virtually no chance in hell that Trent is back with KC this year. With all that has been said, I just don't see how they can patch things up. Stranger things have happened, but i just don't see a way. It's like sharing a room with your ex-girlfriend after a break up. It seldom works.

bigbucks24 05-07-2007 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz
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Laz
Just a question. Is this a change in the last CBA? I know they used to be able to spread the prorated portion of the signing bonus over 2 years if the player was dropped after June 1st and had the take the full hit if he was dropped before. Did this recently change?

Wilson8 05-07-2007 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbucks24
Laz
Just a question. Is this a change in the last CBA? I know they used to be able to spread the prorated portion of the signing bonus over 2 years if the player was dropped after June 1st and had the take the full hit if he was dropped before. Did this recently change?

New CBA rule starting this year -

Prior to the start of the league year, teams may designate up to two (2) veteran players that they will cut after June 1 to spread out the signing bonus escalation (See 1.9b). In so designating them, the team allows these players to become free agents at the start of the free agency period -- although their cap liability remains with the original team just as it would have if the player had stayed on the roster until after June 1.

I assume Sammy Knight and maybe Eric Hicks were already given that honor. Maybe not. CP might have kept one of these just to be able to use for Trent.

bigbucks24 05-07-2007 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Wilson8
New CBA rule starting this year -

Prior to the start of the league year, teams may designate up to two (2) veteran players that they will cut after June 1 to spread out the signing bonus escalation (See 1.9b). In so designating them, the team allows these players to become free agents at the start of the free agency period -- although their cap liability remains with the original team just as it would have if the player had stayed on the roster until after June 1.

I assume Sammy Knight and maybe Eric Hicks were already given that honor. Maybe not. CP might have kept one of these just to be able to use for Trent.

Thanks. Any way of knowing who the "chosen ones" are?

T-post Tom 05-07-2007 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbucks24
First, KC has told Trent that they plan to give Croyle 80% of the snaps in TC. I doubt there is a way to win the QB battle getting 10% of the snaps (assuming Damon gets the other 10%). Second, KC has told Trent that they want to get younger at the QB position and they want him to take a pay cut and be a back up. Third, Trent has told KC that he will not take a pay cut to play for the Chiefs and that he does not want to be a back up at this point in his carreer. I believe that there is virtually no chance in hell that Trent is back with KC this year. With all that has been said, I just don't see how they can patch things up. Stranger things have happened, but i just don't see a way. It's like sharing a room with your ex-girlfriend after a break up. It seldom works.

Just curious where you got the 80% figure from. I haven't heard or read that anywhere. Green said "majority" in his interview on 810.

blueballs 05-08-2007 12:11 AM

Green has told the Chiefs he will not return
but there have been reports he works out at Arrowhead
and goes to QB meetings -this makes no sense

htismaqe 05-08-2007 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bigbucks24
Thanks. Any way of knowing who the "chosen ones" are?

One of them HAS to be Eric Hicks.

OnTheWarpath15 05-08-2007 08:17 AM

I'm not sure why this supposed 80% of snaps is an issue.

I'd be willing to bet Trent hasn't taken more than 30% of the snaps in any preseason with the Chiefs, including camp.

First teamers are never on the field in preseason games, and the time I spent at camp last year, I didn't see a whole lot of Trent. The majority of the work went to Huard and Printers. (Brodie was out 2 of the 3 days I was there)

I really think CP is sincere when he said there would be competition for the job. I just think Trent is worried he can't beat out Brodie or Damon......

Chiefnj 05-08-2007 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58
I really think CP is sincere when he said there would be competition for the job.

ROFL

NewChief 05-08-2007 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58
I really think CP is sincere when he said there would be competition for the job. I just think Trent is worried he can't beat out Brodie or Damon......

I really don't think that's an issue. I think that Trent just doesn't want to play for this coaching staff/team/front office any longer. I think it has very little to do with a fear of competition.

htismaqe 05-08-2007 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NewChief
I think that Trent just doesn't want to play for this coaching staff/team/front office any longer.

Certainly. He's used to being coddled and this is rough on him.


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