By Climbing uphill to the TV in snow up to our eyebrows, of course.

Then our Dad would kill us for dinner, and we'd have to go to work at the Coal Mine right after so as to be back home in time for school. [/Four Yorkshiremen]

Ummm my Xbox 360 died last night. Damn flashing red lights!

Mine did too, two weeks ago.

Go the the xbox site, they'll replace it with a new (supposedly improved) unit for free.

Mine's in transit to me now.

Edit: Mine was over a year out of warranty. They replaced it, no questions asked.

19 foot moniter?

wow..you must have a huge desk.

Heh, good eye. I just noticed the single '. LMAO

Pennington is horrible, absolutely horrible. he can't stretch the field with intermediate passes and the defense knows it. opponents jump routes and have no respect for anything over 10-15 yards past the LOS.

GoChiefs is 100% correct here, I agree.

Okay, looks like i've painted myself into Minority Corner here...i (literally & figuratively) do my best work from a backed in corner.

Someone please, provide visual proof of Chad throwing a weaker long ball than Damon...someone please, tell me that they have seen Huard throw a better bomb, than the one Penny threw last week.

I realize both camps are fed up with noodle armed QB play, but all i ask for, is proof that one is better than the other.

Pennington needs a hop skip and a jump to throw the ball on intermediate routes (15-30yards), as where almost every other NFL QB just flicks his wrists to do that.

Yeah, he can throw a nice bomb. but he can't do what's necessary to stretch the field. the Ravens defense showed more respect for Kellen Clemens in week 2 than the Bills defense showed for Pennington the following week. they crowd the LOS and play the receivers tight (which gets them killed), and the db's constantly jump the routes. it's horrible.

I'd have to see Pennington's bomb. It was 57 yards, so I'm not even sure how far he actually threw it.

Here's a pretty pass Huard threw last year:

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Alright, you watch the guy a lot more, i'll take your word that his intermediate stuff is a bit weaker.

But it seems like theres a feeling that Huard is Leaps & Bounds ahead of him overall...its just not true IMO.

If one of the stat masters around here crunched their numbers, i'd bet that theres very little difference overall.

Ones better at this, the other better at that. Truth be told, both sides are deathly sick of limited QB play.

You want Clemens, i want Croyle.

He's not leaps and bounds better than him. He's slightly better than him. Pennington is more nimble in the pocket and reads defenses better.

Well here's my favorite "HUARD ROX" stat for year - he converst 64 percent of his third down opportunities on 3rd and 3-7 yards.

Pennington comes in at 47.1 percent.

Pennington is not ''nimble''. he's very ''immobile''. he missed Coles wide open in the end zone last week on a pass he threw too quick because he felt pressure that was not there. his pocket presence sucks also.


What good is reading defenses if you can't throw the ball?

He has good footwork. Huard's pretty slow-footed, unfortunately.

Like i was saying...one has this, the other has that.

How much does TG affect Huards 3rd down performance???...not that it isnt great, but i bet a HOF TE would affect Chads #'s to.

Nonetheless, a reasoned post...you should take Pootie (a young you) under your wing & school him in the proper way of crafting an argument that doesnt make people hate him.

Chad has a better offensive line, better receiving corps...evens out.