Uh...no. It sucks because of the GM, players AND Herm. Nobody gets a free pass on the suck-train.

Great coaches can coach mediocre talent into over-performing and can work around bad management decisions to a decent record. Our record indicates all facets are wheels off.

Even though the refs gave the SB to Pittsburgh, you have to give it up for the fact that Cowher got the Steelers to the SB twice, something that will never happen under Herm.

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There have been few years in that span where we've had the talent they have.

The Steeler teams usually have balance, which is what we have never had in Carl's entire tenure.

Cowher is an average head coach, just like Herm is. With superior talent they have a chance. Without talent they have no chance.

**** Herm! He shouldn't have gotten the two years he already has. Chris Terry can help him with his move. See ya!

Pretty much nothing in this post is true.

Manning runs that offense. Manning has also overruled Dungy before. In fact, I think it happened in a KC game where Dungy called a FG and Manning ordered them off the field.

Don't hold you breath. He doesn't have it.

If Manning "overruled" Dungy, it's because Dungy allowed him to. The idea that Dungy doesn't run that team exactly the way he wants to is disrespectful and dumb. The idea that a GM told Dungy "hands off the offense" is equally dumb. Like Dungy is so stupid that he'd handcuff Peyton Manning. :rolleyes:

I agree, Dave. Some coaches would embrace the challenges of rebuilding a franchise.

I just don't think Cowher is one of them.

I just think this job appeals more to a younger guy, with the motivation, energy and desire to BUILD a winner. Something he can put on his resume and be known for.

Yeah... this line of thinking is just beyond dumb. Somebody somewhere started this whole "Peyton Manning is the OC of the Colts, and not even the head coach tells him what to run". And it's been snowballing ever since.

When he was hired it was part of the job, that he wasn't to mess with the offense just the defense....he also doesn't have a ton of say in players..

You really think Dungy is calling stuff over Polian...I don't think Dungy would have taken Anthony Gonzalez first if it was his call.

Herm needs more time because he has a lot of bags to pack...

Personally, I'm enjoying this year's Christmas more than most. I have no false hope built up inside. No anxiety. I havn't slapped the shit out of my wife since we were .500% :redface:

Seriously, lets keep Hermy, Carl, and the rest of the losers and see how BAD it can actually get. Wouldn't you all rather have years like this than go 8-8?

So, I say keep the Stooges in the front office for a few more years. We are so far away from a championship it wont matter anyway.

Or we bring in new people to build a good team, which ever one.