My sentiments exactly.

Sad to say, but Croyle really didn't do anything to deserve evaluation beyond this upcoming season. Which he probably won't survive anyway.

That's true however, I am fairly confident Peyton wouldn't be successful in any season where he took 55 sacks and the offense only ran for 79 yards per game.

Something I've learned in the last few years of observing (watching the Broncos juggle) the quarterback position: teams don't spend a lot of money protecting a third round quarterback. Third round quarterbacks either sink or swim. Teams don't seem to be willing to invest a lot of money protecting a third round quarterback because they don't have a lot invested in them. It's not much of a priority.

First round quarterbacks, on the other hand seem to get protection. Teams have a lot more invested in them, and put a higher priority on finding them adequate protection.

I wouldn't say universally. Croyle still has a good sized bandwagon; I'm just not on it. IMO he is too small and too fragile. The only glimmer of hope I saw was against Miami in the preseason and I saw nothing after that game to make me believe he is our future. Most young QB will flash that potential even on bad teams and never saw that with Croyle.

I could be wrong and I hope I am but I wouldn't pass on Ryan because Croyle is here that's for sure.

So we should gamble on a QB just because he's (questionably) at the top of a poor QB draft class?

When the guy who wrote the article says right away that he doesn't even think Ryan is the best QB in the class?

Wanting a franchise QB is one thing..... taking this big of a gamble on a guy like this is another....

Even smart people are wrong once in a while.

Personally, I didn't think it was a great idea to start Croyle this last year at all. I think he needed another full year of sideline development. I think you're going to see a better quarterback this year in the guy -- unless his confidence is shot from being put out there too early.

One thing I'd note: it wouldn't hurt you guys to put another young buck on the team. I sure wouldn't want to ride all my hopes on Croyle. And look at the San Diego situation. They went from having nothing to having two capable guys to choose from. That would be a good situation for KC to put themselves in. Competition did nothing but make Drew Brees a better quarterback. I very much favor a competitive situation over just "knighting" a guy and hoping it all works out. But the modern NFL makes that hard to do at the QB position.

It's big of you to admit it. :)

Do it Carl.

100% correct but... if you draft a guy as the 5th pick in the first you had better plan on sticking with him b/c hes going to come with a hefty price tag.

Touche.

I'm going to throw down the "Matt Ryan isn't worth the 5 pick" opinion for posterity's sake. That way if I'm right I can browbeat people with it and if I'm wrong, eh, you get what you pay for.

this is where ignorance is bliss :)

i deliberately don't scout/track/analyze these guys anymore so i don't know enough to get pissed and stressed anymore.





it's nice :D

What about the 1997 Orange Bowl against Nebraska?:hmmm:
Had Tennessee won they may have shared with Michigan.

BTW the Huskers would have destroyed Michigan but that's another argument for another day.

I've got no idea, nor do I have any idea what the obsession with Alex Smith is around here.

Ryan is nothing like Alex Smith. He might suck, but it won't be because he's remotely like Alex Smith as a QB.